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WED JAN 02, 2013 AT 04:20 PM PST
Ari Fleischer Pulls Back the Curtain, Then Realizes What He's Done
by The Troubadour
Today, Ari Fleischer unintentionally admitted in public what we have long suspected: that he, and many conservatives like him, are sanctimonious, gluttonous fools motivated to good only by self-serving interests.
For here is his response today to the newly-struck "fiscal cliff" deal:
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@AriFleischer
I increased donations to charity in 2012. This deal limits my deductions so I, & many others, will likely donate less in 2013.
1 Jan 13 ReplyRetweetFavorite
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So much for empathy. So much for genuine compassion. So much for this: What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?
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However, he was appalled to have done so, for after pulling back the curtain today, Fleischer tried to yank it shut, tried to walk back what he had already revealed:
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@AriFleischer
For those having a fit re my charity tweet, when gvt reduces ppl's take home pay, ppl have less $ to donate/spend. It's math
1 Jan 13 ReplyRetweetFavorite
Yes. Math, indeed.
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mykpart
(3,879 posts)donate regularly to charity and don't plan to change the amount in 2013.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)he sold it for chump change.
That's why I believe that Republicans prove that, when you die, that's all there is. And Religion is BULLSHIT.
If it weren't, when a Republican swears to God to tell the truth, he would instantly be flash fried by a lightning bolt.
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)We don't have souls (especially not the GOP) so frankly, if you gain the world, you gain everything there is to have.
If we want to stop that, we have to change the laws and the tax structure so that it isn't possible for anyone to gain the whole world.
There's no karma.
No Hell.
No God.
And no justice unless we create it.
pepperbear
(5,648 posts)mzmolly
(50,984 posts)inside and out.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)that's not a "charity tweet", that's a "patting himself on the back because he's reduced his taxes tweet"
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)JBoy
(8,021 posts)I don't understand. I thought every spare penny in the wealthy's pockets was used for job creation.
pamela
(3,469 posts)Ha, he didn't say a word about take home pay in the original tweet. What a fucking liar. Does he think we can't read? It's English, asshole.
marions ghost
(19,841 posts)He'll just take it out of his "charitable" giving. I wonder what those were...he's so cheap we're probably only talking about a few bucks anyway.
randome
(34,845 posts)Right alongside Palin, Romney, Rove, Cheney and all the rest of his classless cohorts.
NICO9000
(970 posts)He's less relevant than the "Fleischer" I flushed this morning...
tanyev
(42,540 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)Rex
(65,616 posts)You are part of the BFEE, keep grinning.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)Deductibility changes net cost of giving.
What people give is not infinite.
Say you give $8,500/year to charity and giving becomes deductible. So now you can give the $8500 plus the tax you would otherwise have paid on the $8500.
It works out that you were paying $1500 on that $8500 in income, so you send that money to charity rather than to the government.
So now your charity budget is $10,000.
Then the deduction is canceled, and a portion of that same $10K goes the government rather than to a charity, so your net charitable giving is back down to only $8500.
But you devoted the same $10,000 to giving in each year.
What do you think happens when a deduction for something is reduced?
Do you think it goes UP?
SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)If you are giving just for the deduction or because you have arbitrarily picked some number as your "charity budget," is Ari obviously has done, then your giving will go down. If you give to help a cause, then it will not. I always give the cost of a family meal to a holiday food drive. I always will--whether it is deductible or not.
Ari claims that since his rather sustantial income will be some small amount less than Iast year, he will give less...suggesting the difference will be in direct proportion to the loss of the deduction. Is his budget even tighter than mine? I don't think so. Just his heart. The only reason his giving would go down is because he wants to prove a political point and/or he is not committed to the charity.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)Or rather, lots of someones. I wouldn't care if the full $10,000 went to taxes with not a cent to charity if it meant universal access to medical care, education, housing, and/or a job that paid sufficiently to provide for these things.
Of course I realize that a perfect system is impossible, and thus there will always be some need for charity. But it is senseless to argue that an adequate social safety net must be relinquished so that the rich will not reduce their donations to compensate for the higher tax rates that would supply such a safety net. It is suggesting that they must be allowed to buy all the bread in order to nourish us with their generously given crumbs.
Raine
(30,540 posts)with that attitude.
What an asshole.
blogslut
(37,990 posts)...because he was really good at it.
Then he retired and got Lasik surgery and became the weakest wingnut pundit evar. I think his superpower was in his glasses.
uponit7771
(90,323 posts)SunSeeker
(51,545 posts)onenote
(42,660 posts)him to work harder to earn more to make up his "lost" income.
Fleischer's notion of "take home pay is itself fairly amusing, since he works "for" his own consulting firm and decides what he earns.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)and so we're finding out isn't legal.
I died on the operating table once, there was nothingness. And it was good.
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)And at a job that requires zero compassion or empathy?
Nice work if you can get it.
Cha
(297,026 posts)'cause he's that kinda Whiner.
antigone382
(3,682 posts)It's math.
ecstatic
(32,673 posts)would be screwed depending on his tax rate. Thank you for proving that point, Ari.
NBachers
(17,096 posts)world wide wally
(21,739 posts)ReRe
(10,597 posts)Is that like that "It's Just business" meme, when they fire you in a right-to-work state just before your initial period of employment (usually 3 months) comes around? Or when the Corp tells all 100s or 1,000s of employees that this is their last day on their way out the door with a pink slip, saying they are going oversees and it's "just business", and "no hard feelings"? Just like GWB, Ari just needs to shut his big mouth. No matter what comes out of it, it is an indictment of his moral character. They just don't get it. Like Romney. It's a dead giveaway every single time they open their mouths. It's not math..it's MOUTH.
Smilo
(1,944 posts)No one has ever become poor by giving.
― Anne Frank, diary of Anne Frank
xfundy
(5,105 posts)If the taxpayers are footing the bill for that slug, we need to FIRE him.
progressoid
(49,961 posts)Sirveri
(4,517 posts)Just like Romney gave to 'charity', that charity being the Mormon church, at least 50%. The remainder he gave to a charity he himself set up, which in turn gives over half to... yep you guessed it, the Mormon church, and BYU which might as well be the Mormon church.
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)My paycheck is dependent on that evasion charity so it's all good.