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erronis

(24,614 posts)
Mon May 4, 2026, 07:48 PM May 4

Mark Carney Just Walked Into Armenia and Cracked The American Empire In Half

https://deanblundell.substack.com/p/breaking-mark-carney-just-walked
Dean Blundell

Mark Carney Just Walked Into Armenia and Cracked The American Empire In Half As Canada Entertains Joining The EU

While Donald Trump was busy threatening Greenland, picking fights with Germany, pulling 5,000 troops out of a NATO ally, bombing Iran, and licking Putin's boots on a Tuesday -- our guy Mark Carney just rolled into Yerevan, Armenia, and became the first non-European leader in history to be invited inside the European Political Community summit.

Forty-eight heads of state. Twenty-seven EU nations. The UK. Ukraine. Norway. Iceland. Turkey. Albania. The whole goddamn continent in one room -- and the guest of honour is the guy from the country Trump keeps calling "the 51st state."

The symbolism is so loud it should come with hearing protection.

Who The Hell Is Mark Carney Again? . . .

. . .

Mark Carney is a Harvard and Oxford-educated economist who ran the Bank of Canada through the 2008 financial crisis without a scratch. Then the British poached him to run the Bank of England through Brexit -- the first non-Brit to ever hold the job in its 300+ year history. Then he ran the UN's climate finance file. Then he wrote a book. Then, when Canada needed an adult in the room because Trump had decided he was going to annex us, Carney walked into Liberal leadership, won, called an election, and won that too in April 2025 -- fourth consecutive Liberal majority -- running on one promise: cut the American cord.

He's spent nearly 60 days outside the country since taking office. Not on vacation. Building a new world.

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Mark Carney Just Walked Into Armenia and Cracked The American Empire In Half (Original Post) erronis May 4 OP
After the last year, who wouldn't in his shoes? Scrivener7 May 4 #1
No kidding! calimary May 5 #74
If Carney gets Canada admitted to the EU, and then allies them with the TPP... Fiendish Thingy May 4 #2
Game over, USA. Point and match, USSR. erronis May 4 #3
First of all, there is no USSR anymore Fiendish Thingy May 4 #4
The USSR is very real in Putin's mind. erronis May 4 #6
If Carney succeeds, Russia and the US lose. Nt Fiendish Thingy May 4 #8
I don't see us joining the EU, we would lose too much autonomy, partner with them yes. Bev54 May 4 #32
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Carney has been making deals that benefit CAN regardless of trumps lunacy. Callie1979 May 4 #7
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Poilievre, yeah he's hare weight and a piece of shit. Dave Bowman May 4 #49
BS Disaffected May 4 #9
Could you provide links for your assertions? niyad May 4 #10
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jacobin's crap doesn't work for me. It's badge of Cha May 4 #48
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4 or 5 claims with no sources.. Permanut May 4 #11
This guy may have a pizza on the way. Swede May 4 #26
Post removed Post removed May 4 #41
.. Cha May 4 #55
After I cooled down, I wanted to engage with Smoker. Swede May 5 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author Cha May 5 #63
May. malaise May 5 #66
Mark Carney has been brilliant for Canada Against Cha May 4 #14
.... Spazito May 4 #20
Ys, Indeed! Cha May 4 #30
and hasn't spent one day golfing. nt Grey5 May 5 #79
Mark Carney knows there's no Cha May 5 #81
Your "concern" is noted DinahMoeHum May 4 #21
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Who are the "actual left"? Spazito May 4 #34
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So you use the term "actual left" but ... Spazito May 4 #44
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Very simple, even simplistic one might say... Spazito May 4 #54
Carney is saving Canada. Swede May 4 #23
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I live here, he's the best thing that's happened to Canada since Trudeau got in ten years ago. Swede May 4 #36
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Not here in Canada. Swede May 4 #40
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The NDP are fading fast. Swede May 4 #46
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Nobody is trying to silence you, they're disagreeing with you. SunSeeker May 4 #50
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Aloha, SunSeeker... it's just Cha May 5 #64
Yup, all gone. SunSeeker May 5 #65
PM Mark Carney may be Helping Cha May 4 #33
He may just be saving a lot more than just Canada. He sure knows how to negotiate and stand up to bullies. . Amaryllis May 5 #72
Long term, as a Canadian, I agree LiberalLovinLug May 4 #25
Mark Carney is the de facto leader of the Free World. OMGWTF May 4 #12
I cannot disagree with that bucolic_frolic May 4 #13
Along with Zelenskyy. wnylib May 4 #37
Right? I thought of Pres Zelensky Cha May 5 #75
I fucking hate clickbait hyperbole so much. Initech May 4 #15
I'm not sure what I hate more... progressoid May 4 #16
The clickbait is definitely a contributor to this timeline! Initech May 4 #19
Canadian PM Mark Carney.. Cha May 4 #17
He also knows how to play hockey. llmart May 4 #35
Thank you for that about Mark Carney.. Cha May 4 #43
I just looked him up on Wikipedia GopherGal May 5 #70
Thank you, GopherGal! And Harvard can Cha May 5 #77
Mahalo, Cha! I love Hawai'i but can't handle the sun... erronis May 5 #73
Alona, erronis... That sounds like a Cha May 5 #80
When Canada and Mexico join forces to surround Trumpamerica, usonian May 4 #18
If that ever happens, Chump will already be gone FakeNoose May 4 #28
Canada is already in NATO. Mexico will never join NATO. LeftInTX May 4 #56
La Guardia Nacional usonian May 4 #57
Yes, they're domestic and they often used against their own people. LeftInTX May 4 #58
Use your imagination. usonian May 5 #61
It's not going to happen. They're not going to gang up on the US.. LeftInTX May 5 #62
USA under Trump is on its way to becoming a pariah nation. OGBuzz May 5 #68
Mark Carney is a real leader working on behalf of his country, not his own ego and his own bottom line. OGBuzz May 4 #22
trump wants to be the Emperor of North America Norbert May 4 #24
Could California join? JoseBalow May 4 #59
Canada and Mexico are moving on without America. Both President Sheinbaum and P.M. Carney are very Botany May 5 #67
our prime minister for this time in our history...well done mr. carney dawn5651 May 5 #69
BRAVO! BlueWavePsych May 5 #71
;-{)...... Goonch May 5 #76
Canadians bdamomma May 5 #78
Mark Carney has totally kicked trumps ass. republianmushroom May 5 #82

Fiendish Thingy

(24,210 posts)
2. If Carney gets Canada admitted to the EU, and then allies them with the TPP...
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:04 PM
May 4

It’s game over, USA.

I don’t like or agree with everything he’s doing, but on trade, he has been masterful.

erronis

(24,614 posts)
3. Game over, USA. Point and match, USSR.
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:11 PM
May 4

For Putin to humble the main cog in the western alliance by just bribing a few weak individuals (well, perhaps a few threats/actions), is a remarkable show of power of intellect over complacency and stupidity. Gotta give credit to the fox when it is due.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,210 posts)
4. First of all, there is no USSR anymore
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:14 PM
May 4

If Carney succeeds in creating an economic coalition of the EU and the TPP, both the US and Russia will be the losers, as the pool of their potential trading partners will shrink drastically.

They will hold few, if any, of the cards.

Bev54

(13,531 posts)
32. I don't see us joining the EU, we would lose too much autonomy, partner with them yes.
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:58 PM
May 4

We are working to determine our own trade, why would we want the EU to take over our decisions. I like most of what Carney is doing and that which I am not sure of, is because we don't know exactly what is happening, but I also know he can't show his full hand.

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Callie1979

(1,432 posts)
7. Carney has been making deals that benefit CAN regardless of trumps lunacy.
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:29 PM
May 4

Would you rather have Pollivier

Response to Callie1979 (Reply #7)

Response to niyad (Reply #10)

Cha

(320,916 posts)
48. jacobin's crap doesn't work for me. It's badge of
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:39 PM
May 4

Honor for PM Mark Carney to be bashed by them.

Response to Cha (Reply #48)

Response to Swede (Reply #26)

Swede

(40,201 posts)
60. After I cooled down, I wanted to engage with Smoker.
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:21 AM
May 5

I didn't want him snuffed out.

He was farther left than most DUers, but I think he meant well. Oh well...

Response to Swede (Reply #60)

Cha

(320,916 posts)
14. Mark Carney has been brilliant for Canada Against
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:45 PM
May 4

Last edited Tue May 5, 2026, 06:41 PM - Edit history (1)

the GD Evil PEDO Rapist Homicidal Maniac in the damaged WH.

He's about the furthest thing from an "asshole" as you claim.

Yeah, We love Mark Carney. deal with it.

Cha

(320,916 posts)
81. Mark Carney knows there's no
Tue May 5, 2026, 06:47 PM
May 5

time for "golfing" when the World is on fire... because of the "Asshole" who does go.

TY

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Response to Spazito (Reply #34)

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Spazito

(56,162 posts)
54. Very simple, even simplistic one might say...
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:59 PM
May 4

but you did define your term which is what I asked of you.

Response to Swede (Reply #23)

Swede

(40,201 posts)
36. I live here, he's the best thing that's happened to Canada since Trudeau got in ten years ago.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:08 PM
May 4

He's doing real work for the regular folks of Canada.

Response to Swede (Reply #36)

Swede

(40,201 posts)
40. Not here in Canada.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:17 PM
May 4

You compare Poilievre to Carney. I don't think I need any more info from you.

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Response to Swede (Reply #46)

SunSeeker

(58,378 posts)
50. Nobody is trying to silence you, they're disagreeing with you.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:50 PM
May 4

Your responses have been cryptic. And you cite Jacobin, not a well-respected source. How about actually stating FACTS instead of bashing Carney as having been of no use to working Canadians?

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #50)

Cha

(320,916 posts)
64. Aloha, SunSeeker... it's just
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:48 AM
May 5

so weird... I came back to reply to your response to this post, and it seems to be gone.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21219447

It was the one with the Nation mag link. And, the post underneath it now is "nessage auto-removed" !

Cha

(320,916 posts)
33. PM Mark Carney may be Helping
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:01 PM
May 4

to save the World, too.

Along with the EU, NATO, and the Democracy loving countries..

Mahalo, Swede

Amaryllis

(11,440 posts)
72. He may just be saving a lot more than just Canada. He sure knows how to negotiate and stand up to bullies. .
Tue May 5, 2026, 03:20 PM
May 5

LiberalLovinLug

(14,771 posts)
25. Long term, as a Canadian, I agree
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:40 PM
May 4

But for now, he's the only leader who can fight Trump at his own game. Establishing more Capitalist markets around the globe.

The NDP party, of the left, is now so withered they only have 6 seats. Carney is the best of two evils....if you add in Poilievre , leader of the maple maga conservatives.

bucolic_frolic

(55,987 posts)
13. I cannot disagree with that
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:44 PM
May 4

He is a cut above, he has some kind of super political vision, he seems to know everything, the details in his speeches are absolutely precise and show deep understanding.

Initech

(109,360 posts)
15. I fucking hate clickbait hyperbole so much.
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:46 PM
May 4

Good idea, and this will surely piss Trump off, but good lord, is this headline truly beyond stupid.

progressoid

(53,407 posts)
16. I'm not sure what I hate more...
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:53 PM
May 4

the hyperbolic headlines or this timeline.

Ok, it's this timeline.
But the media comes in a close 2nd.

Cha

(320,916 posts)
17. Canadian PM Mark Carney..
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:56 PM
May 4
He's spent nearly 60 days outside the country since taking office. Not on vacation. Building a new world.

I love this All about Mark Carney!

Mahalo, erronis!

llmart

(17,750 posts)
35. He also knows how to play hockey.
Mon May 4, 2026, 10:07 PM
May 4

I recently saw a clip of him on the ice with some team and he's pretty good. He didn't even need a golf cart to get from one end of the rink to the other!

GopherGal

(2,961 posts)
70. I just looked him up on Wikipedia
Tue May 5, 2026, 02:20 PM
May 5

Because I thought I remembered that he was a goalie, and goalies = weird (not always in a bad way, ymmv).
He was Harvard's backup goalie.

During his Harvard years, he was backup goalie for the varsity ice hockey team[18] and was a roommate of future NHL general manager Peter Chiarelli and former ice hockey player Mark Benning.[19][20] He lived at Winthrop House, and graduated in 1987 with a bachelor's degree in economics magna cum laude.


Oh, yeah, and graduated magna cum laude.

The contrast to that orange sac of festering pus at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave just keeps looking more painful.

Cha

(320,916 posts)
77. Thank you, GopherGal! And Harvard can
Tue May 5, 2026, 06:22 PM
May 5

be very proud, too, of PM Mark Carney as one of their Alumni.

erronis

(24,614 posts)
73. Mahalo, Cha! I love Hawai'i but can't handle the sun...
Tue May 5, 2026, 03:32 PM
May 5

One of my wives (don't ask) was a director for a cruise line that sailed around the islands. I had the benefit of living for a while a couple of times. My northern European skin and the white sand beaches did not work well together.

Hugs to you always!

Cha

(320,916 posts)
80. Alona, erronis... That sounds like a
Tue May 5, 2026, 06:40 PM
May 5

wonderful job, and lucky you having those memories.

Hawaii isn't for everybody, and I get really nostalgic for various parts of the Mainland, but my son and his family live here, too.. so I'm not going anywhere else.

Mahalo! ☮️💙 🌻🕯️🕊️💜

usonian

(26,698 posts)
18. When Canada and Mexico join forces to surround Trumpamerica,
Mon May 4, 2026, 08:59 PM
May 4

Last edited Tue May 5, 2026, 03:12 PM - Edit history (1)

A new balance of power arises. They can destroy the US in a month by sealing borders to a US befriended only by Bibi and UAE.

No trade partners left.

Putin will have been Bolshevik'ed.

Only slightly speculative, but life is full of surprises, especially when one sex criminal disrupts everything.

FakeNoose

(42,587 posts)
28. If that ever happens, Chump will already be gone
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:49 PM
May 4

We need to be planning for the post-Chump years ... and may they hurry into focus as quickly as possible.

LeftInTX

(34,871 posts)
56. Canada is already in NATO. Mexico will never join NATO.
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:34 PM
May 4

I don't think it meets the requirements. It's military is mostly a domestic security (think "national guard&quot and has a history of being used on its own citizens.

usonian

(26,698 posts)
57. La Guardia Nacional
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:42 PM
May 4

Any tourist to Mexico probably has seen one.



They fight narco gangs. Try not to pick a fight with one.

LeftInTX

(34,871 posts)
58. Yes, they're domestic and they often used against their own people.
Mon May 4, 2026, 11:47 PM
May 4

Also the article was about the EU, not NATO. Armenia and Turkey have not been accepted as EU members. Armenia is not eligible for NATO. Yet this event takes place in Armenia.

I think Canada wants to build stronger partnerships with Europe.

I really don't think Mexico wants to join NATO because it involves a committment to send troops overseas to fight wars. A year ago, their president was focused on restoring beans, tortillas and instant coffee to a higher place in Mexican society. https://apnews.com/article/mexico-food-agriculture-plan-beans-nostalgia-1e3bd9d5e1af9e57376d2509e90d1260. Mexico's focus just isn't security in Europe, ME and Asia.


It's against the NATO charter to attack a NATO member anyway. So it's not gonna happen.
EU doesn't attack anyone.

usonian

(26,698 posts)
61. Use your imagination.
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:24 AM
May 5

If Canada and Mexico ganging up on Trumpamerica challenges you, how about USONA

United States of North America.

There are 23 countries in North America.

https://www.countries-ofthe-world.com/countries-of-north-america.html

And with 2 senators each (like our founders handed us) it would he harder for someone like Trump to take command.

Solves that damn border problem!!!

There is no life I know
To compare with pure imagination
Living there, you'll be free
If you truly wish to be


LeftInTX

(34,871 posts)
62. It's not going to happen. They're not going to gang up on the US..
Tue May 5, 2026, 12:31 AM
May 5

Heck, we can't even get the EU to rescue us, much less of bunch of countries over here

OGBuzz

(710 posts)
22. Mark Carney is a real leader working on behalf of his country, not his own ego and his own bottom line.
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:39 PM
May 4

Norbert

(7,867 posts)
24. trump wants to be the Emperor of North America
Mon May 4, 2026, 09:40 PM
May 4

Excellent move by Carney. I hope Sheinbaum will do the same.

Botany

(77,951 posts)
67. Canada and Mexico are moving on without America. Both President Sheinbaum and P.M. Carney are very
Tue May 5, 2026, 09:34 AM
May 5

…. smart and are working on joint plans to benefit the CITIZENS of their nations.

“Mexico and Canada reaffirm their commitment to dynamic and forward-looking collaboration. To that end, the President and the Prime Minister are pleased to announce the elevation of their cooperation framework to a Comprehensive Strategic Partnership, one that will build a future that is more prosperous, secure, inclusive and sustainable for their peoples. Mexico and Canada also commit to frequent meetings and communication at the highest level, as well as between ministers and secretaries, as part of a robust mechanism of ongoing dialogue that will drive the agreed-upon agenda forward.

In addition, President Sheinbaum and Prime Minister Carney are launching the Mexico-Canada Action Plan 2025-2028. This ambitious 3-year plan provides a strategic roadmap based on 4 pillars that reflect their shared priorities: prosperity; mobility, well-being and inclusion; security; and environment and sustainability. The Mexico-Canada Action Plan will serve as the directive for carrying out concrete actions, including collaboration on trade and investment facilitation and port connectivity, as well as promoting cooperation on agriculture, energy, natural resources, health, security, emergency preparedness and climate action. The new Comprehensive Strategic Partnership will better equip both countries to address complex global challenges and seize on emerging opportunities.”

BlueWavePsych

(3,446 posts)
71. BRAVO!
Tue May 5, 2026, 03:16 PM
May 5




Now includes ... UK, Ukraine, Brazil (and all of Mercosur), India, South Korea, Indonesia and other ASEAN/ CPTPP countries.

bdamomma

(69,632 posts)
78. Canadians
Tue May 5, 2026, 06:31 PM
May 5

have a stable leader who cares about its people and country, quite a change what we have in the US.

We are committing suicide/murder on ourselves.

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