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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Voting is not a privilege, it's a right, and I'm tired of people treating it like a privilege, it's a right,"
The court is bringing back so-called race-neutral policies. Let me be really clear, Black and brown voters are being targeted by these gerrymanders. This notion of race neutral is a lie on its face. We have seen so-called race-neutral policies before that completely erase the ability of Black and brown voters to be heard. Grandfather clauses, literacy tests, tell me how many jelly beans are in the jar. All of those policies were allegedly race-neutral. Theres nothing new about this.
Black and Brown voters are being targeted, but women are also being targeted because the same folks who cheer this awful decision by the Supreme Court were also trying to pass the so-called SAVE Act. And let me be clear, theyre not trying to save America. They are certainly not trying to save the democracy. Theyre trying to save their power at any cost.
So the SAVE Act said that youve got to have your birth certificate in order to register to vote. Most people cant find their birth certificate, or youve got to have a passport. Most Americans dont have a passport. And if youre a woman and your name is different from the name thats on your birth certificate, youve got to find your birth certificate, then find your marriage certificate, which you may not want to find! And then go get an affidavit.
Youve got to jump through all of these hoops just to vote. Voting is not a privilege, its a right, and Im tired of people treating it like a privilege, its a right, its a right.
Senator Warnock's full remarks link below
https://www.warnock.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/the-democracy-doesnt-belong-to-the-politicians-warnock-stands-with-faith-leaders-to-decry-gutting-of-voting-rights-act/
Emile
(43,202 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(7,995 posts)Exactly right 👍
PunkinPi
(5,302 posts)RexLipton
(111 posts)They're privileges.
That's all we've ever had in this country: a bill of temporary privileges. And if you read the news, even badly, you know that the list gets shorter and shorter."
George Carlin
ColoringFool
(1,046 posts)Ponietz
(4,413 posts)ChicagoTeamster
(1,239 posts)COL Mustard
(8,378 posts)But here in Virginia that hasnt worked out so well.
ChicagoTeamster
(1,239 posts)as outlined in Article V is only for Amendments which would only have to be ratified by the state legislatures instead of the electorate. Anyone in favor of another Convention is obviously stating outright that they are against the will of the people.
brer cat
(27,672 posts)AllaN01Bear
(29,779 posts).
mountain grammy
(29,182 posts)Ponietz
(4,413 posts)Theres a concise summation of Repubes.
LeftInTX
(34,843 posts)One right we do have is the right to remain silent when accussed of a crime. That one is a pretty hard one to take away.
Now you can be penalized for it, but you are not supposed to. You do not retain the same right in a civil suit.
But free speech and firearms are rights, but have limitations. Free speech is harder to limit than firearms.
Voting is subject to citizenship, registration, residency and age.
Sadly the constitution itself does very little to protect voting rights. Yes, age, race, gender and senate races are now protected in in the constitution. But if you look at original elections 200 years ago, much of it was about "white male delegates".
1789: The U.S. constitution did not establish any specific voting rights, instead states were given the power to regulate voting laws. As a result, most states limited voting to white male landowners.
Representatives were elected by the people, Senators were selected by state legislatures, and the President was elected by state legislature appointed electors.
1870 -15th Amendment: The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States of any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.
1913: The 17th Amendment gives the power of selecting Senators to the (male) people. Prior to the 17th Amendment Senators were selected by state legislatures.
1920: The 19th Amendment gives women the right to vote.
1971: The 26th Amendment made the minimum voting age 18, previously the minimum voting age was 21.
These are the only things protected in the US constitution.
Also many states interpret voting rights within the constitution applicable to federal elections.
For instance in Texas, the Overseas Voting Act only applies to federal elections. Some states allow overseas citizens to vote in all elections. Some states allow non-citizens to vote in local elections.
Hell, a state could challenge voting in presidential elections and guess what, this Supreme Court would agree. "The constitution says: "State legislature appointed electors". I don't think it says anything about voting for president.
https://guides.library.unt.edu/voting/history-of-voting-America
AZLD4Candidate
(6,947 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(181,851 posts)
Emile
(43,202 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(11,511 posts)They are just removing the locations that you can vote in. That way, they did not stop you from voting, they just removed the means to do so with a decent amount of effort. They made it almost impossible for some to vote, not from removing their ability, but by removing their voting stations. Most cannot travel long distances just to vote. They know this. They also leaned on the corporate arm to make sure their employees would have to risk being fired for having to take the time to go vote. They schedule big jobs on those days and they make sure everyone that they can affect is far too busy to even think about trying to leave to go vote.
But, we let them rig our lives this way, so my complaining is pointless.
Until we realize what we are up against, this is just going to get worse.
LeftInTX
(34,843 posts)However, it doesn't seem like registration is in the constitution and it's a state thing. It started very early on in the 19th Century.
https://responsivegov.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/Voter-Registration-A-Very-Short-History.pdf