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kentuck

(115,575 posts)
Thu May 14, 2026, 03:13 PM 18 hrs ago

Someone must have the guts to say "No!"

Otherwise, these thieves and grifters will steal everything we have.

Trump is suing the IRS for $10 billion dollars of the people's money. And he wants his DOJ to make a settlement, so that it doesn't go to court. No doubt, he will tell them what the "settlement" should be?

There was a time, before he realized he could steal whatever he wanted with no consequences, when he stated that he would make public his tax returns for the people to see.

But now, it is a $10 billion dollar transgression against his privacy?

There is no end unless someone tells him "No!".

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Fiendish Thingy

(24,010 posts)
2. It's going to take a Democratic administration courageous enough to seize Trump's assets
Thu May 14, 2026, 03:44 PM
18 hrs ago

And shut down Polymarket and seize their assets as well.

I believe there are laws passed in the aftermath of 9/11 that allows the president to seize assets without due process if they are suspected of being linked to terrorism.

appmanga

(1,528 posts)
3. I don't believe any court will allow this "settlement"...
Thu May 14, 2026, 03:59 PM
18 hrs ago

...as Trump, as the executive, is in charge of the government agency he's suing. Lawsuits must "adversarial". In this instance, Trump is fighting himself, and has the ability to order the outcome of a settlement. That's totally contrary to American jurisprudence, but these guys will try anything in hopes there are other Aileen Cannons or John Robertses out there to come down on Trump's side. That won't happen in this case.

TomSlick

(13,089 posts)
4. That's not how it works.
Thu May 14, 2026, 05:52 PM
16 hrs ago

Court's generally do not approve settlements. The only exception I can think of is settlements in class action suits.

GoodRaisin

(11,040 posts)
6. Not a legal expert, but States should have standing to bring lawsuits against a corrupt Federal
Thu May 14, 2026, 06:02 PM
15 hrs ago

settlement whereby the executive is suing the executive branch he controls.

TomSlick

(13,089 posts)
7. I can't see the States or taxpayers having standing to sue or intervene in any existing suit.
Thu May 14, 2026, 06:18 PM
15 hrs ago

The judiciary is not designed to stop this kind of graft. The ball is in the legislative court. Of course, the Rethuglican controlled Congress will do nothing. If this deal is done before there is Democratic controlled Congress, all Democrats can do is rant.

A future Democratic DoJ might do something but it's would be a long shot.

GoodRaisin

(11,040 posts)
9. If that's the case then there is no way to stop him from stealing the money. He may as well
Thu May 14, 2026, 07:36 PM
14 hrs ago

empty the Treasury into his bank account.

And, I would suggest as soon as viable a constitutional amendment to move the DOJ from the executive branch to the judicial branch.

TomSlick

(13,089 posts)
11. I have issues with the prosecutorial function being in the judicial branch.
Thu May 14, 2026, 10:59 PM
11 hrs ago

Judges and prosecutors ought not be on the same team.

I don't have a good answer other than being more careful about who we elect as President. It was entirely predictable when we elected a con man President, he would raise graft to a whole new level.

GoodRaisin

(11,040 posts)
13. President and prosecutors being on the same team can be pretty bad too.
Fri May 15, 2026, 12:03 AM
9 hrs ago

As this president has shown us. There has to be a better solution.

Maybe DOJ should be independent of all.

appmanga

(1,528 posts)
8. Trump filed a lawsuit...
Thu May 14, 2026, 07:34 PM
14 hrs ago

...and the court has the capability to rule if the suit is legitimate and if the settlement in this instance is in the public interest.

TomSlick

(13,089 posts)
12. Again, that's not how it works.
Thu May 14, 2026, 11:27 PM
10 hrs ago

If the parties to a federal lawsuit reach a settlement, they file a stipulation of dismissal under Rule 41, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure. At that point, the case is dismissed without the need for a court order. I have seen federal judges issue dismissal orders after a stipulation of dismissal but there is no provision under the Rule for the judge to go behind either the stipulation of dismissal or the settlement.

The biggest exception is class action lawsuits. A settlement of a federal class action lawsuit requires the approval of the judge under Rule 23(e), FRCP.

A judge must approve a settlement involving a minor to ensure the minor's interests are being protected.

The problem is that our judicial system assumes an adversarial relationship between the parties. With Trump on one side and Trump's DoJ on the other, the assumption fails. Trump can steal as much of the public fisc as the Trump DoJ will allow.

Ol Janx Spirit

(1,074 posts)
5. They will settle out of court and both drop the case.
Thu May 14, 2026, 05:59 PM
16 hrs ago

There will not be anything to stop them. Even if the judge rejects dropping the case then the government will just continue it indefinitely or undermine it by other means.

[REDACTED] is getting our money for sure. The only question is how much and what else?

[REDACTED] has apparently also demanded that the IRS sign an agreement not to investigate him or anyone in his family, etc., in the future....

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