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They posted about Jewish American Heritage Month. Then the antisemitic comments poured in. (Original Post) DavidDvorkin 22 hrs ago OP
and I am quite certain this isn't all coming from the right either. lostincalifornia 22 hrs ago #1
And I"m quite certain you are wrong.. mountain grammy 3 hrs ago #18
Flag With Swastikas and Star of David Flown at N.Y.U., Police Say TheProle 21 hrs ago #2
Disgusting mcar 21 hrs ago #4
agreed Skittles 13 hrs ago #15
Strange coincidence sarisataka 20 hrs ago #8
Nazis gonna nazi. TheProle 20 hrs ago #10
And that is how it is done...normalize anti-Semitism under the guise of "social justice". Behind the Aegis 13 hrs ago #14
... mcar 3 hrs ago #16
Swastika flag raised above NYU building Behind the Aegis 17 hrs ago #13
This is a very sad, increasing issue in this country... hlthe2b 21 hrs ago #3
We should not have elected Trump. yardwork 20 hrs ago #11
No doubt on that score.. hlthe2b 20 hrs ago #12
This is a very good point and one that is often glossed over. harumph 3 hrs ago #17
An important difference- sarisataka 53 min ago #20
Did you even read what I wrote? Apparently not. I did not conflate Israelis with Jews worldwide hlthe2b 49 min ago #21
Apologies if I appeared to be argumentive sarisataka 41 min ago #22
Thank you for clarifying. Much appreciated... hlthe2b 2 min ago #23
And, no doubt, there will be those who make excuses for it. Behind the Aegis 21 hrs ago #5
Sigh. I need a drink. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #6
Is anyone surprised? sarisataka 20 hrs ago #7
That is NAZI. Amerika, the Turd Reich since November 22, 1963. Kid Berwyn 20 hrs ago #9
The "Jews have collective guilt" people are spreading Sympthsical 3 hrs ago #19

TheProle

(4,088 posts)
2. Flag With Swastikas and Star of David Flown at N.Y.U., Police Say
Thu May 14, 2026, 04:05 PM
21 hrs ago
A flag displaying two swastikas and a Star of David appeared on top of a building on the New York University campus on Wednesday, the Police Department confirmed on Thursday.

The flag, which appeared near Washington Square Park, resembled the many purple N.Y.U. flags flying on campus buildings but was emblazoned with two swastikas surrounding a Star of David. According to the student newspaper, Washington Square News, the flag appeared about 5 p.m. and was removed roughly 15 minutes later.

The Police Department received a 911 call at 5:21 p.m. reporting harassment. When officers arrived, a man told them that a flag had been tampered with to display swastikas. An investigation remains ongoing, a Police Department spokeswoman said, and no arrests have been made.

“We are shocked and deeply troubled that this hateful symbol expressing antisemitism was raised on a flagpole overlooking Washington Square Park,” Wiley Norvell, an N.Y.U. spokesman, said in a statement. “Campus safety responded immediately to remove it, and we are working closely with the N.Y.P.D. to identify whoever is responsible.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/14/nyregion/swastika-flag-star-david-nyu.html

sarisataka

(22,811 posts)
8. Strange coincidence
Thu May 14, 2026, 05:29 PM
20 hrs ago

There is a recent post on DU about replacing the Star of David with a swastika.

Behind the Aegis

(56,199 posts)
14. And that is how it is done...normalize anti-Semitism under the guise of "social justice".
Fri May 15, 2026, 12:22 AM
13 hrs ago

It isn't even a new formula!

hlthe2b

(114,614 posts)
3. This is a very sad, increasing issue in this country...
Thu May 14, 2026, 04:15 PM
21 hrs ago

And clearly a painful one for so many.

I will add a comment, however. Having perused the European media in recent months-with the help of two others as a bit of a formal project we are undertaking, each taking a different language (me, German, they, Italian and French)--, the comments in articles on the US--any area of policy, not just Iran--are almost blood-curdling in their intense hatred toward all things American. A common slur is typically included--sometimes crudely translated into that language and more often included in English. Not that i blame them for the anger toward this country's policies and Trump, but a significant number of commenters do not distinguish and that anger transcends into pure hatred towards Americans--all Americans. So, at some point most of us may get to feel the totally unwarranted hatred toward all of us that is illustrated in this antisemitic backlash toward anything and everything these domestic hatemongers choose to associate with Judaism.

yardwork

(69,581 posts)
11. We should not have elected Trump.
Thu May 14, 2026, 05:41 PM
20 hrs ago

It's the worst election decision in our nation's history. The impact will be felt for generations and he's not nearly done yet.

hlthe2b

(114,614 posts)
12. No doubt on that score..
Thu May 14, 2026, 05:45 PM
20 hrs ago

I try to be a positive person, but I cannot stop vacillating between and

harumph

(3,407 posts)
17. This is a very good point and one that is often glossed over.
Fri May 15, 2026, 10:29 AM
3 hrs ago

Whether we like it or not, the actions a country takes reflects on its citizenry. It falls flat when we who didn't support Trump
say things like "...it's not all Americans."

sarisataka

(22,811 posts)
20. An important difference-
Fri May 15, 2026, 01:11 PM
53 min ago

Americans are Americans, whether by birth or naturalization.
Not all Jews are Israeli.

Jews worldwide are facing persecution for a collective guilt for a country they likely have never visited, and they may even disagree with the policies and actions of the Israeli government.

Antisemitism is not about Israel, it is about Jews.

hlthe2b

(114,614 posts)
21. Did you even read what I wrote? Apparently not. I did not conflate Israelis with Jews worldwide
Fri May 15, 2026, 01:15 PM
49 min ago

I stated:

So, at some point most of us may get to feel the totally unwarranted hatred toward all of us that is illustrated in this antisemitic backlash toward anything and everything these domestic hatemongers choose to associate with Judaism.


Perhaps you didn't mean to, but it appears many project what they want to argue about into the words of others on DU, rather than reading the actual words and giving due consideration. I have no desire to start an argument, but yours is not with me.

sarisataka

(22,811 posts)
22. Apologies if I appeared to be argumentive
Fri May 15, 2026, 01:24 PM
41 min ago

I was attempting to refine a point in your analogy.

Your highlighted sentence is concise, accurate and to the point. I absolutely agree.

Behind the Aegis

(56,199 posts)
5. And, no doubt, there will be those who make excuses for it.
Thu May 14, 2026, 04:43 PM
21 hrs ago

Anti-Semitism has become succor for many.

Kid Berwyn

(25,027 posts)
9. That is NAZI. Amerika, the Turd Reich since November 22, 1963.
Thu May 14, 2026, 05:35 PM
20 hrs ago

The truth about what has happened to democracy in the name of national security may as well be science-fiction to 99% of America. And it didn’t start with Trump, Papa Doc Bush, Scalia, Rehnquist, and Nixon. It goes to back to their owners and operators, the Robber Barons who financed Hitler.





The Real McCloy

THE CHAIRMAN: JOHN J. McCLOY; The Making of the American Establishment,
By Kai Bird (Simon & Schuster: $30; 800 pp.)


By ROBERT SHERRILL
APRIL 19, 1992, The Los Angeles Times

EXCERPT...

When McCloy took over as high commissioner of defeated Germany, he talked a tough line about crushing the many still- active Nazis. But he promptly turned to mush, permitting Chancellor Konrad Adenauer to fill his cabinet with notorious antisemites and Nazi war criminals (some of whom became McCloy’s personal friends). McCloy also vastly expanded the shameful programs begun before he got to Germany, of letting some of the worst war criminals off the hook.

He commuted two-thirds of the death sentences of mass murderers (such as the SS officer who personally executed 1,500 Jews) and radically reduced the prison sentences of doctors who had conducted experiments on death-camp inmates, of high-ranking Nazi Judges who had administered Gestapo justice, and of industrialists who had built the Nazi war machine.

McCloy freed some immediately, including Alfred Krupp, whose munitions factories had worked thousands of slave laborers to death. Krupp’s original sentence had included loss of all property; McCloy canceled that punishment and within a few years Krupp was again one of the richest industrialists in the world. Obviously McCloy’s obsequiousness toward money and power made him the wrong man to reform Nazi Germany. “Though he could understand the special culpability of the ‘big Nazis,’ ” Bird writes, “when it came to a wealthy and politically well-connected man like Krupp, he suspended his good judgment.”

As high commissioner, McCloy dabbled disastrously in the intelligence business, setting up a network of agents in Germany that included the likes of Klaus Barbie, who had shipped 78,000 French Jews to the gas chambers, and Gen. Reinhard Gehlen, who had been responsible for some of the “grisliest mass killings on the Eastern Front.” Not surprisingly, many of the intelligence operations carried out under McCloy were, says Bird, “fiascos.”

CONTINUES...

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1992-04-19-bk-588-story.html



Mr. McCloy was joined by another “Mr. Establishment” type with extensive ties to wealthy NAZI industrialists and anti-communist NAZI spy rings, former CIA Director Allen Dulles, in service on the Warren Commission. Coincidentally. Their colleagues kept faith in the Almighty Dollar.



CIA Chief Bush Suppresses the News

By Robert Gardner
FAIR Exclusive
May/June 1999

Documents obtained by FAIR, released through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), show that George Bush, as head of the CIA in 1976, tried to bottle up a news story that exposed the apparent duplicity of another former CIA chief, Richard Helms.

The story, broken on Oct. 1, 1976, by David Martin (now CBS Pentagon correspondent, then with Associated Press), revealed that Helms had given misleading testimony to the Warren Commission investigating the assassination of John Kennedy. Helms testified that the CIA had not "even contemplated" making contact with Lee Harvey Oswald, the accused assassin. Through the FOIA, Martin obtained CIA memos showing that in 1960 the agency "showed intelligence interest" in Oswald and "discussed...the laying on of interviews" with him.

When Bush saw the AP story in the Washington Star, he asked for an internal CIA review to see if the story was true (it was) and if it would "cause problems for Helms." (Helms had lied to a Senate committee about the CIA's role in subverting Chilean democracy and would later be convicted of contempt of Congress.)

After investigating, Bush assistant Seymour Bolten reported back that the exposure of Helms' false testimony to the Warren Commission would probably cause Helms "some anxious moments," though not "any additional legal problems." But Bush was assured that a "slightly better" story had resulted from an Agency phone call to AP protesting that Martin's story was "sloppy." Additionally, Bush was told that an unnamed journalist had "advised his editors . . . not to run the AP story."

Bolten complained to Bush: "This is another example where material provided to the press and public in response to an FOIA request is exploited mischievously and in distorted form to make the headlines." One might more accurately describe it as an occasion where George Bush's CIA pressured one news outlet to back away from an accurate story while using an asset in the press corps to suppress it in another.

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1491



I don’t think US citizens should be considered “Enemies of the State” for upholding the Constitution and the Bill of Rights.



Angus Mackenzie: "Secrets: The CIA's War at Home"

EXCERPT...

A month later someone at the CIA leaked the news of MHCHAOS to Sy Hersh at the New York Times. The story, while sparse, made public the fact that the agency was spying on its citizens. Gerald Ford, in office for less than five months, directed William Colby to issue a report on MHCHAOS to Henry Kissinger. As Mackenzie writes, evidently Ford was not informed that Kissinger was well aware of the operation. He adds:

Because of MHCHAOS and Watergate, Congress began to investigate the CIA. On September 16, 1975 Senators Frank Church and John Tower called Colby to testify at a hearing about CIA assassinations. Colby showed up carrying a CIA poison dart gun, and Church waved the gun before the televison cameras. It looked like an automatic pistol with a telescopic sight mounted on the barrel. Producers of the evening news recognized this as sensational footage, and just as surely Colby recognized his days as director were numbered. He had not guarded the CIA secrets well enough.


Colby was fired on November 2, 1975. His successor was George Herbert Walker Bush.....

Mackenzie's account of Bush's rise and and his fall when Carter assumed office is brief, but intriguing. There is much, much more in Secrets about CIA efforts throughout the years in guarding their work from the public in this under-recognized work. The epilogue is entitled "The Cold War Ends and Secrecy Spreads." Mackenzie closes by writing:

Only recently in the history of the world's oldest republic has secrecy functioned principally to keep the American people in the dark about the nefarious activities of their government. The United States is no longer the nation its citizens once thought: a place, unlike most others in the world, free from censorship and thought police, where people can say what they want, when they want to, about their government. Almost a decade after the end of the cold war, espionage is not the issue, if it ever really was. The issue is freedom... Until the citizens of this land aggressively defend their First Amendment rights of free speech, there is little hope that this march to censorship will be reversed. The survival of the cornerstone of the Bill of Rights is at stake.

Succumbing to brain cancer before he turned fifty, Mackenzie sadly did not live to see the meteoric rise of the internet, nor did he live to see 9/11 and the current Bush Administration and their obsessive devotion to secrecy.

This work has relevance to the current situation regarding the agency's efforts to keep George Joannides' records secret.

SOURCE: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=10617



Jimmy Carter tried weaning the US off fossil fuels. So the Petrodollars got together with the former spooks to dump Carter and foist a half century of Trickle Down on the nation.



From...

The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld

By Prof Peter Dale Scott
Global Research, March 10, 2014
The Asia-Pacific Journal, Volume 12, Issue 10, No. 5

EXCERPT...

The Safari Club Milieu: George H.W. Bush, Theodore Shackley, and BCCI

The usual account of this super-agency’s origin is that it was

the brainchild of Count Alexandre de Marenches, the debonair and mustachioed chief of France’s CIA. The SDECE (Service de Documentation Extérieure et de Contre-Espionnage)…. Worried by Soviet and Cuban advances in postcolonial Africa, and by America’s post-Watergate paralysis in the field of undercover activity, the swashbuckling Marenches had come to Turki’s father, King Faisal, with a proposition…. [By 1979] Somali president Siad Barre had been bribed out of Soviet embrace by $75 million worth of Egyptian arms (paid for… by Saudi Arabia)….95

Joseph Trento adds that “The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations,… With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed… the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine.”.96

Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who were then forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by perhaps the most controversial of them all: Theodore Shackley.

Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like [Edwin] Wilson, the Safari Club—operating with [former DCI Richard] Helms in charge in Tehran—would be ineffective. … Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to [CIA] resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced.97

Kevin Phillips has suggested that Bush on leaving the CIA had dealings with the bank most closely allied with Safari Club operations: the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). In Phillips’ words,

After leaving the CIA in January 1977, Bush became chairman of the executive committee of First International Bancshares and its British subsidiary, where, according to journalists Peter Truell and Larry Gurwin in their 1992 book ‘False Profits’ [p. 345], Bush ‘traveled on the bank’s behalf and sometimes marketed to international banks in London, including several Middle Eastern institutions.’98

Joseph Trento adds that through the London branch of this bank, which Bush chaired, “Adham’s petrodollars and BCCI money flowed for a variety of intelligence operations”99

It is clear moreover that BCCI operations, like Khashoggi’s before them, were marked by the ability to deal behind the scenes with both the Arab countries and also Israel.100

It is clear that for years the American deep state in Washington was both involved with and protected BCCI. Acting CIA director Richard Kerr acknowledged to a Senate Committee “that the CIA had also used BCCI for certain intelligence-gathering operations.”101

Later, a congressional inquiry showed that for more than ten years preceding the BCCI collapse in the summer of 1991, the FBI, the DEA, the CIA, the Customs Service, and the Department of Justice all failed to act on hundreds of tips about the illegalities of BCCI’s international activities.102

Far less clear is the attitude taken by Wall Street banks towards the miscreant BCCI. The Senate report on BCCI charged however that the Bank of England “had withheld information about BCCI’s frauds from public knowledge for 15 months before closing the bank.”103

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-state-the-deep-state-and-the-wall-street-overworld/5372843







George Bush Takes Charge: The Uses of ‘Counter-Terrorism’

By Christopher Simpson
Covert Action Quarterly 58

A paper trail of declassified documents from the Reagan‑Bush era yields valuable information on how counter‑terrorism provided a powerful mechanism for solidifying Bush's power base and launching a broad range of national security initiatives.

During the Reagan years, George Bush used "crisis management" and "counter‑terrorism" as vehicles for running key parts of the clandestine side of the US government.

Bush proved especially adept at plausible denial. Some measure of his skill in avoiding responsibility can be taken from the fact that even after the Iran‑Contra affair blew the Reagan administration apart, Bush went on to become the "foreign policy president," while CIA Director William Casey, by then conveniently dead, took most of the blame for a number of covert foreign policy debacles that Bush had set in motion.

The trail of National Security Decision Directives (NSDDS) left by the Reagan administration begins to tell the story. True, much remains classified, and still more was never committed to paper in the first place. Even so, the main picture is clear: [font size="5"][font color="green"]As vice president, George Bush was at the center of secret wars, political murders, and America's convoluted oil politics in the Middle East.[/font color][/font size]

SNIP...

Reagan and the NSC also used NSDDs to settle conflicts among security agencies over bureaucratic turf and lines of command. It is through that prism that we see the first glimmers of Vice President Bush's role in clandestine operations during the 1980s.

SNIP...

NSDD 159. MANAGEMENT OF U.S. COVERT OPERATIONS, (TOP SECRET/VEIL‑SENSITIVE), JAN. 18,1985

The Reagan administration's commitment to significantly expand covert operations had been clear since before the 1980 election. How such operations were actually to be managed from day to day, however, was considerably less certain. The management problem became particularly knotty owing to legal requirements to notify congressional intelligence oversight committees of covert operations, on the one hand, and the tacitly accepted presidential mandate to deceive those same committees concerning sensitive operations such as the Contra war in Nicaragua, on the other.

The solution attempted in NSDD 159 was to establish a small coordinating committee headed by Vice President George Bush through which all information concerning US covert operations was to be funneled. The order also established a category of top secret information known as Veil, to be used exclusively for managing records pertaining to covert operations.

The system was designed to keep circulation of written records to an absolute minimum while at the same time ensuring that the vice president retained the ability to coordinate US covert operations with the administration's overt diplomacy and propaganda.

Only eight copies of NSDD 159 were created. The existence of the vice president's committee was itself highly classified. The directive became public as a result of the criminal prosecutions of Oliver North, John Poindexter, and others involved in the Iran‑Contra affair, hence the designation "Exhibit A" running up the left side of the document.

CONTINUED...

CovertAction Quarterly no 58 Fall 1996 pp31-40.



Emphasis added.

Sympthsical

(11,105 posts)
19. The "Jews have collective guilt" people are spreading
Fri May 15, 2026, 10:50 AM
3 hrs ago

And now have the power of social media to hang out in their little hidey holes. Whole swaths of Reddit are just weirdly illegible bigotry now.

Dumb spreads.

Can't even make it through various threads here without our little "collective guilt" gophers poking their heads out.

It's the inaction about it that baffles. How are ostensibly educated Americans managing this one? For the past 20 years, everything was "Just like the 1930s!" And then 1930s style antisemitism actually showed up, and suddenly no one knows what the 1930s were like.

People are fucking funny.

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