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Why Can't the World's Most Powerful Military Open the Strait and Keep it Opened? (Original Post) Sneederbunk Yesterday OP
Why couldn't the world's most powerful military win in Vietnam? Same answer JHB Yesterday #1
A shovel can only Boo1 Yesterday #2
Trump has ZERO stomach for a bloody invasion of Iran Ars Longa 22 hrs ago #8
Geography. The strait is narrow and bent and the shoreline is mountainous... Wounded Bear Yesterday #3
Yep. All of that was recognized by Democratic administrations... harumph 19 hrs ago #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Wounded Bear Yesterday #4
Several reasons, all of which suggest attacking Iran was incredibly and obviously quite stupid 0rganism Yesterday #5
Qui bono? ananda Yesterday #6
Quo bono Whip-poor-will 23 hrs ago #7
And don't forget the extended family... ananda 20 hrs ago #9
Maybe they could... Drum 19 hrs ago #11

JHB

(38,326 posts)
1. Why couldn't the world's most powerful military win in Vietnam? Same answer
Sat May 16, 2026, 12:25 AM
Yesterday

Because it was tasked with a mission that did not allow its strengths to be brought to bear, and escalation to allow that would have made everything worse.

With Vietnam, it was groupthink that caused the blindness. Here, it's That Fucking Howler Monkey's chaotic stupidity and ease of manipulation, in this case by Netanyahu.

Boo1

(450 posts)
2. A shovel can only
Sat May 16, 2026, 12:29 AM
Yesterday

dig as deep as the guy using it.

Trump is the perfect combination of stupid and gutless. He's dumb enough to start a war with Iran, but too cowardly to press through the tough part and win it.

Want to control the strait? You have to control the ground on the Iranian side. To do that you have to put boots on the ground to take and hold the territory

Ars Longa

(573 posts)
8. Trump has ZERO stomach for a bloody invasion of Iran
Sat May 16, 2026, 07:42 AM
22 hrs ago

to dislodge the Mullahs, and any further casualties would be
pinned on HIM--BIG TIME!!! The Mullahs know this!
Also, It DISGUSTS him, having to go to Dover AFB and show
respect for fallen soldiers-- the optics of that were horrible for him!!

Wounded Bear

(64,619 posts)
3. Geography. The strait is narrow and bent and the shoreline is mountainous...
Sat May 16, 2026, 12:30 AM
Yesterday

giving the Iranians a lot of caves and valleys to hide rockets in and shoot from.

We'd need to send in a couple of divisions to clear the shoreline deep enough to protect shipping, and it would take months of hard fighting against near perfect defensive positions.

That's the quick answer.

harumph

(3,410 posts)
10. Yep. All of that was recognized by Democratic administrations...
Sat May 16, 2026, 10:14 AM
19 hrs ago

which wisely sought to get the inspection deal - while not perfect - did provide meaningful checks on Iran. IOW, Democratic administrations knew to go full on overthrow and control mode, the sacrifice would be too great and the public would never support it. So, here we are holding nothing but our d**k in our hands.

Response to Sneederbunk (Original post)

0rganism

(25,709 posts)
5. Several reasons, all of which suggest attacking Iran was incredibly and obviously quite stupid
Sat May 16, 2026, 12:46 AM
Yesterday

But you knew that already, right? That alone makes you more competent than Sec. Hegseth, congratulations. Now find the giraffe.

In summary: right now, the World's Stupidest Autocrat mis-deployed the World's Most Powerful Military on a strategically unsound mission doing more harm than good on behalf of careless bloodthirsty leaders and top staff who consistently underestimate the power of asymmetric warfare.

ananda

(35,483 posts)
9. And don't forget the extended family...
Sat May 16, 2026, 09:45 AM
20 hrs ago

along with the allied billionaires.

Nobdy else matters.

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