Is anyone familiar with Edgar Cayce, the "Sleeping Prophet"?

[kentuck]

He had some thought-provoking writings about sleep, dreams, and the soul. He called sleep the "little death". He analogized that the soul was like a balloon tied to a tight string during our consciousness but during sleep, it was free to go where it wanted.

He wrote about "energy vampires" that steal our energy and interrupt our lives with their "materialism". They can destroy our lives if we let them.

Like Nostradamus, he predicted 2026 as an eventful, and perhaps, a cataclysmic year. Although he had never read Nostradamus, he had similar ideas about the future.

However, it was his writings about sleep and the soul that I found the most interesting.

You do not have to comment on this if you do not want?

[raccoon]

1. Edgar Cayce. Yes I'm familiar with him

[hlthe2b]

2. Ironically, I was thinking about him a few months back and was going to research a bit more...

I knew about his "predictions" but not much... Certainly not that he specifically had something to say about 2026. But, yes, the guy did have a lot to say that was quite thought-provoking and during his life, apparently had a lot of impact on those who "followed" him.

Do you have a link to his 2026 comments?

[bucolic_frolic]

3. He was quite a fascinating fellow

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_Cayce

Edgar Cayce (/ˈkeɪsiː/; March 18, 1877 – January 3, 1945) was an American clairvoyant who reported and chronicled an ability to diagnose diseases and recommend treatments for ailments while asleep.[1] During thousands of transcribed sessions, Cayce answered questions on subjects including healing, reincarnation, dreams, the afterlife, past lives, nutrition, Atlantis, and future events. Cayce said he was a devout Christian and was not a spiritualist or communicating with spirits. Cayce is regarded as a founder of the New Age movement and a principal source of many of the movement's characteristic beliefs.[2]

In 1931, Cayce founded a non-profit organization, the Association for Research and Enlightenment.[3] In 1942, a popular and highly sympathetic biography of Cayce titled There is a River was published by journalist Thomas Sugrue.[4]

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A career counselor once mentioned him extensively. I found the subject a bit complicated.

[The Blue Flower]

9. The Association for Research and Enlightenment

It's located in easterm Virginia, near Virginia Beach, because Cayce said it would be a secure area as the oceans rise and climate changes.

[hlthe2b]

10. Not sure how it could be secure from climate change?

I get that the local areas are taking it seriously and trying to implement some flooding and related interventions to protect low-lying areas, but...

[The Blue Flower]

11. I cant's answer that

It's simply what I read when I was delving into Cayce and the ARE. It was located with awareness of dire changes on the way.

[The Blue Flower]

93. Hey, welcome to DU!

Nice to have you here.

[paleotn]

32. ............

Please.

[jimmy the one]

91. Lucid dreaming is realizing you are dreaming, while you are dreaming

It happened to me last year when I was dreaming about some video game predicament and trying to escape the trap, when I heard a voice saying to the effect: 'this is a dream, you are dreaming, this is not real' so as to be a calming affect, assuring me not to worry about what I was worried about.
Like an early warning radar system.

That is the only time in my life I realized I was lucid dreaming, maybe more unwittingly, since only this year 2026 did I even hear about Lucid dreaming, due to reading several Amanda Quick novels, pseudonym for Jayne Krentz.

[mwmisses4289]

4. Yes, I am familiar with him. it's been years since I have tried to read anything by him.

While i found some of his stuff interesting, to me it was delivered in a very dry, boring, almost pedantic way that often put me to sleep.
His claims about never having read nostradamus have caused some controversy, if I recall, because some have pointed out that some of Cayces predictions were way too close to nostradamus's predictions.

Cayce seems to go in cycles - his stuff is really popular for awhile, then drops off the radar, then comes back again.

[displacedvermoter]

5. He supposedly knew where Atlantis was -- somewhere in the Bermuda Triangle? -- which

probably isn't true. Watched him on Leonard Nimoy's show back in the day. I confess I found him more plausible when I was a teenager, same with Chariots of the Gods and cryptozoology.

[Celerity]

13. Cayce died in 1945, during WWII, so unless it was an old movie reel, I don't see how he was on Nimoy's show (1976-1982).

[Beartracks]

25. A couple of episodes of "In Search Of" went into Cayce's theories.

Atlantis (Season 1, Episode 10): Dives into various theories surrounding the lost city, heavily leaning into Cayce's channeled readings.
The Bimini Wall (Season 4, Episode 22): Explores underwater rock formations in the Bahamas that Cayce predicted would prove to be remnants of Atlantis.

Might have been others; these are just the two that popped up first when I went "in search of" the Nimoy connection on Google.

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[Celerity]

31. Ok. Makes sense.

[displacedvermoter]

45. He wasn't on the show himself, unless, perhaps in another astral dimension..

The show, as I recall, was about him.

Jeezus...

[Celerity]

60. Yes, another poster above already explained it.

No need to get vexed, btw.

[paleotn]

23. Probably???

Umm, it's not true. Cayce was a magical thinker and a bit of a con. If anything he wrote or said turns out to be correct, it's the broken clock principle.

[mr715]

69. The clock isn't broken.

It is in the Akashic records.

[paleotn]

99. .........

OK.

[Upthevibe]

73. displacedvermoter......

You have him confused with someone else because Edgar Cayce died in 1945.

[PatSeg]

6. Yes, I read quite a few books about Edgar Cayce

over the years. His was a fascinating life and some of his readings were extraordinary.

[MiHale]

7. When facing problems or tasks I need help with...

I use his …I’ll call it ‘dreaming with intentions’…before I sleep I’ll think about the problem and let myself be open to any ideas that …(laughing now)…I can dream up.

I always keep a notepad and pen bedside…have for years…to jot down anything I remember, especially objects that seem to be outstanding. I have worked out some things this way.

I’m foggy on all his techniques but it’s very interesting. Some if I remember correctly has to do with the Akashic Record…the original ’cloud’ storage for knowledge.

[Joinfortmill]

33. I understand that technique has been quite successful.

[erronis]

47. There's a lot of recent research into "lucid dreaming" which mirrors some of what you talk about.

I'm a very lucid dreamer - can remember multiple dreams from the night before and many from years ago. Every now and then I try to use the dreaming time to resolve a problem - nudging my dream consciousness into the problem solving direction. Have to be careful not to be too "conscious" or I'll wake all the way up.

[MiHale]

75. I also lucid dream...not always...

There are times it’s a new reality. I have had those dreams all my life and interestingly enough they seemed to mature right along with me…not a past or a future, just now in a different realm.

[SheltieLover]

51. Quite an effective method!

[Maraya1969]

8. I've used some of his remedies. Here is one.

I think it has really helped me in the past. It is very strong but I was told it would make my lungs stronger

These people carry all of his products https://www.baar.com/

[hauckeye]

12. Yes! I was in a study group in the 80's discussing his writings

[kentuck]

14. I think his writings about this time...

... would be called a "Reckoning". It will affect all of humanity. There will be a worldwide transformation. There will be trials and tribulations and catastrophic calamities which will be rebuilt into a better world.

[MLAA]

15. I'm reading one of his books now and find it very interesting.

[ananda]

16. When I was a sophomore in college...

I was listening to a Steve Edwards talk show
and the guest was Hugh Lynn Cayce who
talked about his father extensively.

I found it very fascinating, especially the part
about being able to sleep on a book and then
remember everything in it.

Cayce was also a distance healer, which was new
to me then and so I thought it was really amazing.

His thoughts on Atlantis, though... just sounded
like the same ole racist shit that southerners like.

[Goonch]

17. ;-{).....

[paleotn]

34. Crazy shit.

[Maru Kitteh]

81. Barnum and Bailey meets Carter's Pills nt

[karin_sj]

18. I have many books about him

I was really immersed in him & his readings during my 20s. I still think there is something to it. I'll have to go back and read them again. He led a very interesting life.

[AllaN01Bear]

19. I e heard of both of them and read about both of them.

[Sneederbunk]

20. George Carlin said Cayce was not a medium,

but actually an extra large.

[hlthe2b]

28. Ah, don't we all miss George Carlin?

LOL

[Srkdqltr]

127. George Carlin was always right.

[SCantiGOP]

21. He predicted that San Francisco would be destroyed

by an earthquake in 1936, which I don’t believe happened.

[paleotn]

35. After it was destroyed in 1906. By an earthquake.

Kinda going out there on a limb, eh Cayce?

[Wifes husband]

22. This is insane

Edgar Case was a scam artist.
I read some of his stuff when I was younger, but then and I grew up and found out there were no little green men, crop circles, Atlantis, any of that crap.

This junk is a waste of time

[hlthe2b]

26. I would venture that some on DU have never heard of him...

He has been dead a long time. So, as an admirer of history, I'm quite content for people to delve into him a bit and come to their own conclusions and they will. There is plenty of debunking material available that they will find as well as the more controversial (and the apparently highly positive) biography of him.

[paleotn]

30. So there's value delving into the works of a con and nut?

I wonder if Trump will be thought of similarly 80 years from now? Please. A con is a con. There's nothing of any value there.

[hlthe2b]

44. One has to read and understand a figure in history before determining that he is a "con"

and you want to preclude others from making their own judgement after doing so. That is a very patronizing and demeaning attitude you are taking toward your fellow DUers--many/most who have probably never heard of him.

I have great skepticism about Cayce based on a limited reading about the man and one that was shared by people of his time. But skepticism, while healthy, is not a conclusion about him because I admittedly know little about him. But, my final judgement is not going to come from one person screaming about the idiocy of others who are merely expressing curiosity. Read my sig line and kindly consider for one damned minute your attempts to censor discussion and others' attempts to learn for themselves.

[paleotn]

106. I'm not precluding a goddamn thing. I'm merely pointing and laughing.

Grown adults believing fairytales kind of does that to me. They're free to do as they like. I'm free to look at it as batshit crazy.

Evidence. That's the key. After all these years, there is no solid evidence that Cayce or anyone like him before or since was on to something and not completely full of shit. None. Nada. Zip. No evidence. Get it?

[hlthe2b]

107. Your cursing at me doesn't help your argument, paleotn. Not one bit...

But it does show your desperation to win an argument sans facts as someone downstream asked for your evidence specifically on an assertion you were making. So, on that score you are no better than the "woo-proponents." And, no cursing doesn't help your cause.

[paleotn]

111. What? That's silly.

Almost as silly as believing things without a single shred of evidence. As I stated, they're free to believe whatever they want. No harm, no foul. And when that belief veers off into bizarro world, I'm equally free to point and laugh. That's how free discourse works and that's not about "winning" anything. Why you think there's something to be "won" I don't know.

So tell me....how do these unsubstantiated claims differ from the similarly evidence free claims spouted by Evangelicals? You know, talking snakes, God speaking through burning shrubbery, global floods, zombies, or that humans and dinosaurs existed together. Some are quick to discount those beliefs, yet hold others that are equally rooted in the air, i.e. no evidence. They have no problem with me pointing and laughing at Evangelicals, but goring their ox is off limits somehow? Really?

[hlthe2b]

113. Since I have argued the exact opposite, you show that you are just posting to see your own words

and probably read them aloud to yourself repeatedly for the reassurance.

So, given you haven't read a word of what I actually wrote--including those that show agreement to some degree on this man--as well as the larger picture of the need to validate that which you label "woo" one way or the other, then I'm done with you. Start cursing again if you can't do so. I'm sure all will find that entertaining just like the patronizing attitude you show to all who even remotely disagree with you.

[paleotn]

115. Oh please. To some degree? i.e., you want it both ways.

Either there's evidence to back up his claims or there's not. There's no middle ground here when it comes to extraordinary claims. After all this time, there's not one verifiable shred of evidence that any of his ramblings or those like him before or since are true.

And honestly, I don't care a wit what you think about me. Since you're a disembodied entity on the internet, as am I, what we think personally about each other is kind of irrelevant. But I do find it interesting you feel the need to throw that in. Also interesting is you didn't take the bait on the difference between Cayce believers and Evangelicals. How about Jehovah's Witnesses then?

Also, am I going to get the last post or are you? Now THAT'S a good question. I think I'll cede that you.

[Clouds Passing]

112. Desperation and ridicule for sure hithe2b

[erronis]

49. Hmmm. Wonder about Jesus, Moses, etc., etc.

In some of the famous cases, they might not be so much a con artist as delusional. And "marks" are easy to find.

[stopdiggin]

68. I'm sure many shared this thought

Was Paul (Saul of Tarsus) a con man? And - even if you so judge - you're going to try to ram that assessment down the throat of all others ? Cool man!

[Clouds Passing]

71. Cayce was a HEALER not a murderer. That could be the difference between the two

[paleotn]

105. Bwahahahaha!

And so is RFK Jr I suppose?

Evidence please. Verified evidence that he "healed" anyone. You make the claims. You come up with the evidence. Until then, it's bullshit.

[live love laugh]

134. Verify evidence that he didn't heal anyone. People have a right to question and explore.

That’s a part of the process of learning. Ignorance usually displays itself with ridicule, ad
hominem attacks and cussing.

[bif]

24. I was really into him in my younger years

I was fascinated by the occult.

[paleotn]

27. Oh, please. He was equal parts con and nutter.

No one is predicting anything next week, much less far in the future by some mythological "gift." The veracity of anything they've written or said is purely based on probabilities. And their "pronouncements" are usually vague to the point of being worthless. Parsing such vague bullshit-ery is the equivalent of mental masturbation and about as useful. Seriously, will woo ever fucking die?

[Joinfortmill]

37. We heard you the first time.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

61. Plus several more

[hlthe2b]

40. I get the inclincation to boil everything down to "woo"

but the other end of that is to discount every attempt to explain the unexplained as conspiracy theory or "woo." Just as some are doing now with science and that which is proven by the scientific method, including vaccines, other medical interventions, and scientific exploration.

No, I'm not saying there are not charlatans and con men using the unknown and the public's curiosity, fear, and desperation to know the future for their own grift. (Was Cayce one of those, maybe, probably--I haven't looked into him enough to know and apparently neither have many on this thread). But that said, the far end of that is the public's manipulated response by MAGA and other politicians (RFK Jr et al) to COVID-19 interventions, research, recommendations based on best prior case to a new emerging infection, and our scientific experts. Or if you, like, from history, the Catholic Church's initial response to Newton and his work on gravity and the motion of celestial bodies.

So, I do think we need to be cautious about our conflations. If we listened to all those screaming "woo" (especially with COVID-19 vaccines) even a mere five years ago, many of us might not be alive today. Just sayin...

So, do I want to see an end to "woo"? Well one person's considered "woo" may ultimately be a populations' scientifically-valid and proven outcome of an initial theory and one that will advance our knowledge to exist and thrive.

[erronis]

53. Thank you. Well said. I tend to be very skeptical having been taught that the scientific methods are best.

But it's good to have hypotheses as long as their not preached as some gospel.

[TxGuitar]

92. No one would call vaccines woo

At least no rational person.
"Woo" is believing in prophets or crystals or chakras. Woo describes those things that are presented as true with no evidence. Like Cayce.

ETA: What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence

[hlthe2b]

95. Oh, REALLY?!!! Where have YOU been the past decades-- and especially the past five years

with COVID-19. And now the lead vaccine denier is in charge of public health for this country.

Where the HELL have YOU been? No, what you are stating is demonstrably untrue. Given I have had to deal with these idiots and the tragic aftermath in numerous cases over the past many years, I damned well know. That is ONE naively undertaken debate you will NEVER win.

[mr715]

101. Did you just invoke Hitchens's razor!?

We must be at war in the middle east.

[niyad]

65. " There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of

in your philosophy."

"Hamlet". Act 1 Scene 5.

[SheltieLover]

79. Very true.

Lack of evidence is far from evidence of lack.

[Joinfortmill]

29. Yup. Fascinating person and his work was all documented.

[paleotn]

36. Documented as complete BS.

[Joinfortmill]

38. Back off.

[Wifes husband]

46. Or what?

You can post anything and no one can comment?

Does not work that way.

I grew up with this crap. There is nothing to it, and it is a waste of time.

That is not an opinion. It is a proven, scientific fact. Astrology, Creation science , flat earth, Etc., is just not true.

You get to think what ever you want, but so do I

[Joinfortmill]

54. My response was not directed at you.

[paleotn]

104. I will not.

[paleotn]

103. Why? Truth hurts??

[NJCher]

57. would you please provide

the name of the source who documented Cayce as all BS? A link would be helpful as well.

Thanks.

[mr715]

67. Where is Atlantis?

Is Los Angeles still around?

Remember in 1998 when Jesus came back?

China is the largest Christian country in the world, yes?

[NJCher]

72. post was directed to paleotn

eom

[mr715]

74. Don't blame me, I was just astral projecting.

[reACTIONary]

83. ...

I don't know what "..." In the title of a response is supposed to mean, but I sometimes think it implies agreement of some sort.

[mr715]

85. Ahem, my post was directed to NJCher

[reACTIONary]

125. Unfortunately....

.... I have no excuse. When it comes to Astral projection, I can only Hume and haw.

[mr715]

126. I kant handle philosopher puns.

Well done.

[paleotn]

100. Give me some documentation that his conman ramblings are actually true.

I'm not the one making the crazy claims. Extraordinary claims demand evidence. Is there any? If not, it's complete bullshit. But it's a free country. One can believe all the bullshit they want. And I am free to point and laugh.

[NJCher]

132. Did you go to college?

If you’re going to make a claim like what you did, it’s incumbent on you to provide the work you are citing. Here is what you said:

36. Documented as complete BS.

Who documented it?

You should have been taught in college (and it’s even taught in high school these days) that one mitigates the all inclusive, such as “complete.”

Do you even understand what such a study would entail?

You tripped yourself up with this wording.

Furthermore, there are studies that provide an understanding of such phenomena. Radin is a starting point for such work.

It goes without saying that you can’t hide behind a subjective judgment on your part to qualify what you have to do when questioned on your source/claim. Obviously, though, it has to be said because you have demonstrated you don’t know the basics of argumentation.

[Abolishinist]

133. What does "Did you go to college?" have to do with anything.

fRump went to college. Hogsbreath, Patel, Johnson, RFK Jr. went to college. Probably every one of his cabinet members as well as every R congress person. What a demeaining question to ask of another DU'er. But let me guess, YOU went to college, didn't you. How impressive. Nothing like being the 'big tent' party, eh?

Asking someone to support the phrase “documented as complete BS” is fair enough, but credential-flexing isn’t an argument.

And citing Dean Radin as though this settles the issue is a little awkward given that parapsychology remains extremely fringe within mainstream science. You can’t simultaneously invoke “college-level standards” while leaning on research most mainstream academics remain deeply skeptical of.

There’s a difference between “some researchers explore anomalous phenomena” and “Edgar Cayce’s claims have been validated.” Those are not remotely the same thing.

[Wifes husband]

43. And all bull shit

[Gore1FL]

39. Nostradamus only "predicted" things in reverse.

People took his random symbolism and applied them to past events. Never has someone foreseen an event based on a Nostradamus quatrain.

[Buckeyeblue]

94. That right. Nostradmus predictions are retrofitted

One could only hope to have such a loyal following.

[beveeheart]

41. I visited his research center in Virginia Beach

way back in the 70's. Went with a friend who was really into his writings. I found it interesting but don't remember much else.

[kentuck]

42. I think there is a relevance that is helpful to these times we are living in....

...with his explanations about humanity, about good vs evil, about a transformation that is coming. In my opinion, we are always looking to define and understand the crisis we are experiencing. His explanations, just speaking for myself, offer some comfort in believing that this is a transformational period and that we will survive for the better. You can believe what you want about good vs evil, but there is a negative static within the force of humanity. We want to believe we can defeat it and come out for the better. It is about humanity.

[c-rational]

48. Interesing subject kentuck. I do beleive that as we sleep, our unconscious does 'communiicate'

with the underlying consciousness of the universe. Tesla believed all creation was a vibration and energy. Those large towers he build were not to transmit electricity but to resonate at the underlying frequency of the universe. Be careful what your thoughts are as you go to sleep.

[kentuck]

52. I wouldn't know.

I was dead asleep...

[JoseBalow]

50. "Little Death"

La Petite Mort

[flashman13]

55. Being a cat person I know that Edgar Cayce had a lot of interesting things to say about cats.

He essentially says that they are very spiritual beings. He said that ancient Egyptians recognized this and that is why they were very much into cats in numerous ways. They mummified their cats but not dogs (no dig on dogs intended). The fact that they protected grain stores was more or less just a bonus. They were very protective of their cats and if a person intentionally harmed or killed a cat they were subject to extreme punishment.

He also said that cats were reincarnated over and over again. When they came back they brought the experiences of their past lives with them. He said that some of their odd traits were a result of things learned in those past lives. Some cats comeback many times and become "old souls". Upon reflection, I am quite certain that I lived with one of those old souls. He had a very wide ranging personality along with all of the complicated facial expressions of a human. Over the years I can't say how many cats I have lived with. When they pass I always grieve for them. When that old soul passed, my girl friend and I cried and grieved for him for weeks. The sense of loss was profound. Finally, he said that after you have a loved cat that has passed, and you still feel their presence, it is because that they remain near you for a period before they fully pass to the spirit world.

Take what you will from all of that. Maybe I just have a good imagination. Maybe it is all pure fantasy. Maybe that is why just recently I felt the need to rescue a senior Savannah cat that had just lost its human. He was not doing well at the local animal shelter. He seems to be adjusting well to his new home.

[kentuck]

59. Cats have a sixth sense, I am sure.

I just recently lost an old friend that came to depend on me. He was a feral cat and no one could pet him. He was attacked by some raccoons recently and I tried to nurse him back to health. He let me get close enough to put some hydrogen peroxide on his wounds, which indeed did help them to heal. In his last days, he would rub against my legs and want to be petted. He was trying to tell me something, I am sure. I found him by my trash can, out by the alley, about two weeks ago. He was stretched out as if he was running. I told my neighbor about it, since he was familiar with him. I was going to call the Humane Society and have him cremated but my neighbor said that he would bury him in his pet graveyard in his backyard. If he does return, he will know there are some kind humans in the world.

[flashman13]

80. Cats most certainly have a sixth sense. Several years ago an elderly stray orange cat wandered in and came

right to me and told me that we were friends. He was terribly beat up and undernourished. I nursed him back to health and he lived another three years as a very happy cat. I was glad I could make his later years full of love, cat food and a warm bed.

[mr715]

56. Yes, he was a fraud.

[mr715]

87. Science is falsifiable

Magic is not.

Mr. Cayce has been falsified many times over by his own predictions.

When I retire, I'm me.

[mr715]

90. Pluto being a planet or not is a matter of definitions.

It could certainly still be a planet if you wanted to remember Haumea, Makemake, Ceres, and Eris on your list.

But the general consensus was to be more stringent in our definitions.

Kinda like how whales are fish.

Because, as you're doubtless are aware, whales are fish.


Edit: I'm not being snide. Whales can be considered fish by a strict, very scientific definition.

Definitions aren't science. Science is a process to generate predictions.

[niyad]

96. "you're" ( contraction for "you are"), not "your" (possessive).

[mr715]

97. Ooof, that is always embarrassing

Editing to correct

[1WorldHope]

58. When I was in my twenties I read Cayce.

I found him comforting. I was in a period of my life where I had recently had a home birth and that was the most meaningful thing I had done in my life before. I was looking for something to abate my terror of dying. I am a recovering Missouri Synod Lutheran. I knew that was not the answer. His conclusions made as much sense to me as smiting the first born to stop a plague or parting the red sea or an eternity in hell of you didn't live in enough fear. It was my first exposure to reincarnation. It made sense and gave me a feeling of awe, and that made more sense to me. None of us know the absolute truth of this universe or the universes. So whatever gets us through and makes us a better person (and nobody is taking advantage of us) isn't hurting anyone. Leave room in your life for wonder.

[PatSeg]

120. Well said

I've been around long enough to know how much I don't know.

That said, Edgar Cayce was a quiet, humble man who did not give readings to benefit himself. Also he was remarkably accurate about so many things.

[Faux pas]

62. Too me he was

the closest to being the real deal.

[Kali]

63. just the name

some nutty relatives were into him so I figured he was a nutball, fraud, and/or con man. sometimes you can draw conclusions without delving into the actual bullshit. saves time LOL

[MorbidButterflyTat]

64. Thanks for this thread!

I've never heard of him but I intend to look him up.

There is value in lucid dreaming and I have found it helpful and comforting.

[Brother Buzz]

66. I'm more familiar with Carl Jung's similar work

I would chose to hitch my wagon to Carl Jung’s beliefs, sans the woo.

[mr715]

70. Although Jung was pretty woo too.

[Upthevibe]

76. kentuck........

I love him!

I first heard of him when I moved to L.A. in '88 and discovered The Bodhi Tree Bookstore (R.I.P.).

I've been reading about him and watching videos about him for years.

Thanks for your post!

[ms liberty]

77. Yes, I've read some of his work and I agree.

[allegorical oracle]

78. Did read some of his stuff when I was a teenager because it was

thought provoking.

[GreenWave]

84. He still has a following in Virginia Beach.

[duckworth969]

88. me ma read his books

i however, have not.

[edhopper]

98. Fraud, huxster and con man

no thank you, I prefer Science.

[usonian]

108. The sleeping profiteer?

[kentuck]

109. I believe there is much we do not know.

There are recent theories in quantum physics and metaphysics that our consciousness is not ours alone but part of a universal consciousness. We cannot know these things for sure and we cannot prove them. That does not necessarily mean that it is not true. Indeed, there may be a "transformation" happening which no one can describe, let alone define by facts.

Some folks laughed when they were told that the horseless carriage would someday replace the horse as the main means of transportation. They were small-minded and without imagination. There is a lot of bullshit in this world, we know for a fact. But that does not mean that everything we do not know or do not understand is bullshit.

[mr715]

110. Quantum and consciousness get lumped together because of woo.

Quantum mechanics is hard to understand and spooky.

Consciousness is hard to understand and is spooky.

So many people connect the two.

The problem with this is that we are meat organisms made by vulgar processes in an oxidizing nitrogen atmosphere at these temperatures.

Consciousness, as we experience it, requires meat. It lives in and requires a brain. There are switches you can flip to shut it off. These processes are well understood.

They do not require quantum locking at 4 Kelvin using platinum detector arrays. Consciousness is not quantum. It is too salty, too hot, to slippery, and too biological for that.

[kentuck]

114. That is what is being questioned.

There has to be a simple explanation. "Meat organisms".

I believe in freedom of thought.

We like to think in days and nights, tomorrow and today. We cannot think in decades or centuries, therefore, it is not possible.

But I believe there is a spiritual world beyond all science and present knowledge.

I don't know if I agree with Edgar Cayce, but I might?

[mr715]

116. It is a challenging question...

The world that was revolutionized by clocks became thought of as clockwork.

The world that was revolutionized by computers became thought of in terms of bits and bytes.

Quantum theory is really, really good in its lane but doesn't work so well outside of it.

I am inclined to appreciate the idea that some God construct is an idealized and rarified awareness of the universe. It is a inoffensive and nontoxic deity that doesn't interfere in every day life.

But it isn't the domain of science.

I agree with the spirit of your post (ha, spirit). But I bristle whenever quantum mechanics is brought up alongside discussions of consciousness. They are two very separate areas of mystery that overlap pretty much only because they are mysterious.

[kentuck]

117. In some unexplainable way...

...it does seem that a "war" is happening in the consciousness of humanity. Not just in America, but world wide. There is a battle going on and when it is over, the world will be transformed in some way or other, hopefully for the better. It makes a good argument, in my opinion, for reincarnation. Do you remember what you were doing or thinking as you slept last night. If you had not awakened, would you have known? There does seem to be another level of consciousness when we are asleep, in my opinion.

[mr715]

118. These are not supernatural, though.

To claim there is a force causing a psychic shift towards totalitarianism absolves us of responsibility.

The world we live is can be understood by material means. The "war" you describe is psychological and sociological and is the result of our meat bodies inventing technology that fulfills our desires faster than we can process them.

We are like lab mice dosing themselves with cocaine until they die of starvation.

It is completely explicable at the level of the individual, group, society and does not require any appeal to mysticism.

As for sleep, sleep is interesting. For example, you can be aware in a dream, but not conscious. You can have attention, but not be awake.

Most neurobiologists I know think sleep (and dreams) are fascinating but they are still materialistic. It is a feature of our "wetware". We run a screensaver and our sensory systems put on a puppet show.

[PatSeg]

119. That is how I tend to see it

I think everything is about to come to a head and humanity's consciousness is going to be transformed, but I believe it will probably get worse before it gets better.

[Omaha Steve]

121. Poe "Up Through The Spiral" 1971 Concept Albums,Psych

We have the album, 45, and the CD.

https://therisingstorm.net/poe-up-through-the-spiral/



This is a pretty good late period hard rock psych concept LP that few people know about. Poe originally were the Playboys of Edinburg, a McAllen Texas band who began releasing singles in 1965. The Playboys of Edinburg released 7 or 8 singles in various pop rock styles (garage, beat, folk-rock and hard rock) throughout the 1960’s and eventually relocated to Houston.

For this 1970/71 UNI release the Playboys of Edinburg changed their name to Poe and created this concept lp. Many of the songs were written and arranged by band members McCord and Williams. The album chronicles the life and thoughts of Edgar Cayce, a man who could put himself into some kind of self-induced sleep state by lying down on a couch, closing his eyes, and folding his hands over his stomach. This state of relaxation and meditation enabled him to place his mind in contact with all time and space.

No song better illustrates this theme than the great Up Up Thru The Spiral. This track opens with classic paisley guitar riffs and one of the all time great opening psych lines which refers to Cayce’s incredible ability. Up Up Thru The Spiral is also notable for a horn arrangement, distorted vocals and what sounds like tape loop experimentations. This is flat out a great psych pop track with an English sound similar to that of the Move. Other tracks like the futuristic psych of Automatic Writing, Tune In, the furious Sons of Belial, and Fallin’ Off are pretty vicious and rock hard. Fallin’ Off is more than a nod to English rock group Free, with it’s great, heavy guitar riffs, gritty vocals and sound fx explosion mid way thru the track. This song sounds like a lost classic rock radio hit and had considerable pop appeal, it’s definitely a good one! The lead off track, There Is A River reveals a strong gospel influence and has George Harrison style guitar playing and Beatlesque harmonies. Another reflective number, Debt To Pay is a really good acoustic song with sweet, sugary harmonies and a personal favorite.

This is a solid set from an unknown band who can balance soft reflective tunes with druggy, stoned hard rockers. Vinyl orginals are somewhat cheap although the album saw a cd reissue in 2006 off the Mr. Nobody record label.


Poe Up Through The Spiral 1971 heavy psychedelic rock trip

[SomedayKindaLove]

122. My great Aunt in Portsmouth, Va once saw him speak

And said Cayce was so brilliant no one could understand a word he was saying haha

[jcboon]

123. He cured my great aunt's TB

Yeah, I know, but the doctors were dumbfounded by the results.He never changed a dime.
She followed his dietary advice and to be 96.
Who knows?

[Jacson6]

124. I heard an interview with one his followers on the Art Bell Radio Show years ago.

It is a just a lot of speculation and myth.

[MustLoveBeagles]

128. I find him fascinating

I don't know if he was the real deal or not, but I won't mock others for their beliefs. People can post what they want here but I'm finding some here just as ridgid and judgmental as any Evangelical.

[RubyRose]

129. Familiar with him but not aware of any 2026

prediction.