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Amaryllis

(11,426 posts)
Sun May 17, 2026, 08:31 PM Yesterday

Trump Canceled Canada's 61-Year Old Colulmbia River Water Treaty -- 40% of U.S. Hydropower at Risk



Donald Trump just walked away from a 61-year-old treaty that quietly powers nearly 40 percent of America's hydroelectricity. And the man on the other side of the table, Canada's new Prime Minister Mark Carney, isn't blinking. He isn't calling. He isn't asking for a do-over. He's letting Washington sit with the consequences. Because what most Americans still don't understand is that the water keeping the lights on across Oregon, Washington State, Idaho, and parts of California doesn't actually start in the United States. It starts in the mountains of British Columbia. And right now, the country that controls those mountains has decided it's done being polite.
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Trump Canceled Canada's 61-Year Old Colulmbia River Water Treaty -- 40% of U.S. Hydropower at Risk (Original Post) Amaryllis Yesterday OP
Trump sure showed 'em, didn't he? B.See Yesterday #1
This is from June of last year. Grins 22 hrs ago #32
Does that make it any less relevant? B.See 20 hrs ago #39
try this one KT2000 7 hrs ago #52
Yup! MarcoZandrini 6 hrs ago #53
Dump always fucks things up sakabatou Yesterday #2
Because he never has, nor had, to pay for them. Justice matters. Yesterday #3
That'll show them! (Trump planning to hurt the US and Canadians) erronis Yesterday #4
The Art of the DUNCE,... magicarpet Yesterday #5
Good on PM Mark Carney! Cha Yesterday #6
It might be what Trump wants since it hurts wnylib 23 hrs ago #11
Yes, so is there any recourse for Cha 23 hrs ago #16
I don't know what recourse they have but t I am sure wnylib 23 hrs ago #20
Ohh, I hope so much for Cha 23 hrs ago #23
I think the river basin includes Washington and Oregon and damns in BC prevent flooding in those areas Bev54 23 hrs ago #24
Wow, you know a lot about it, Bev. Cha 22 hrs ago #29
I used to live in the area of BC that the Columbia River flowed. Bev54 21 hrs ago #37
this provides the context KT2000 3 hrs ago #65
TY KT!! I shall watch Cha 1 hr ago #70
Maybe a big boom in wind, solar, and tidal energy production? Attilatheblond 6 hrs ago #57
Yeah, secede IzzaNuDay 2 hrs ago #66
Stupid is as stupid does. surfered Yesterday #7
He did it because the PNW angrychair Yesterday #8
That's what I'm thinking. wnylib 23 hrs ago #12
Yes again... forget my quesion in Cha 23 hrs ago #19
Hope they will be ok. wnylib 23 hrs ago #21
Mahalo, wnylib! Gov Kotek, Cha 23 hrs ago #25
THose three have top notch AGs as well. Amaryllis 22 hrs ago #31
That's good to know. wnylib 21 hrs ago #38
If it's not oil or coal, he doesn't care JoseBalow Yesterday #9
3 Out Of 4 Coolgoober Yesterday #10
The man is a... GiqueCee 23 hrs ago #15
Amen BonnieJW 23 hrs ago #18
Corporations are the nucleus popsdenver 5 hrs ago #60
I agree... GiqueCee 4 hrs ago #62
Yup popsdenver 4 hrs ago #63
I've long referred to corporatism... GiqueCee 3 hrs ago #64
Is this just the Pacific states being affected? What about the Midwest (Manitoba Hydro) and the Northeast? progree 23 hrs ago #13
so we just accept that he can tear up a treaty? mopinko 23 hrs ago #14
No electricity? BidenRocks 23 hrs ago #17
I am damn sick and tired of Republicans allowing Trump using our tax money for his revenge Stargazer99 23 hrs ago #22
I am so sick of Trump. He is nothing but pure evil. mommymarine2003 22 hrs ago #26
Wishing a S.S. agent "Comes to Jesus". Does the right thing. dave99 22 hrs ago #27
Duck just in time? Hug Felon47 while self-immolating? Ilsa 9 hrs ago #46
omg i sincerely hope we dont turn the lights for those people dawn5651 22 hrs ago #28
THIS pedo is an aggressive cancer on our country vapor2 22 hrs ago #30
This is clickbait Boo1 22 hrs ago #33
Oh yeah, Coolgoober 22 hrs ago #35
Clickbait Boo1 11 hrs ago #41
Post removed Post removed 10 hrs ago #43
Quite a bit of wiggle room between the two extremes Torchlight 6 hrs ago #54
"Because Governor Newscum REFUSED to TURN ON THE FAUCET! Big beautiful..... ColoringFool 22 hrs ago #34
When I google this it says false. Is this even true? Melon 22 hrs ago #36
More Americans lose out because Trump just has to be an asshole. Trump probably did that to force those states to build ChicagoTeamster 11 hrs ago #40
Will Succeed for Electricity! Punx 11 hrs ago #42
Canada, please adopt us in the West Coast states. Please!!!! OMGWTF 10 hrs ago #44
It's so much fun to be ruled by a stupid asshole! Martin68 10 hrs ago #45
Actually a significant part of the Columbia river begins in Western Montana and flows North into and then out of Canada. Ford_Prefect 8 hrs ago #47
This is AI slop Simeon Salus 8 hrs ago #48
This one provides KT2000 7 hrs ago #51
This message was self-deleted by its author mgardener 8 hrs ago #49
Here is a better explanation KT2000 7 hrs ago #50
So I guess treaties don't have to be approved by the Senate anymore. That part of the Constitution gone Walleye 6 hrs ago #55
Beginning to think Trump, billionaires, GOP pols don't want regular people to have electricity. Attilatheblond 6 hrs ago #56
Ridiculous clickbait Cirsium 6 hrs ago #58
His goal is to kill America and Americans. SupportSanity 6 hrs ago #59
Power demand will be growing in Canada , so this energy will get redirected East OAITW r.2.0 4 hrs ago #61
Ding,this. AllaN01Bear 2 hrs ago #67
Dumb ass doesn't know or care what he is doing, just having a ball with his love of chaos Evolve Dammit 2 hrs ago #68
Bob and weave, bob and weave... Ellipsis 1 hr ago #69

Grins

(9,519 posts)
32. This is from June of last year.
Sun May 17, 2026, 11:23 PM
22 hrs ago

It really bothers me when posters put this up as current events.

B.See

(8,849 posts)
39. Does that make it any less relevant?
Mon May 18, 2026, 01:09 AM
20 hrs ago

Because maybe it's news to some.

So do we ignore the s--- that Trump has done because it's old news?

erronis

(24,521 posts)
4. That'll show them! (Trump planning to hurt the US and Canadians)
Sun May 17, 2026, 09:02 PM
Yesterday

He's just following orders (or the implants in his shrinking amygdala.)

Cha

(320,547 posts)
6. Good on PM Mark Carney!
Sun May 17, 2026, 09:12 PM
Yesterday

I admire him so much!

Is that going to hurt Washington, Oregon, and parts of California?

Which is what PDO would want.

Cha

(320,547 posts)
16. Yes, so is there any recourse for
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:03 PM
23 hrs ago

those 3 Blue States?

TY, wnylib.. I know nothing about this. But I am Concerned for the People there.

wnylib

(26,454 posts)
20. I don't know what recourse they have but t I am sure
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:20 PM
23 hrs ago

that Newsom will be right on it immediately. The governors might file an emergency petition to hold back the treaty cancelation.

Newsome's reaction.might make him an even stronger Dem leader. He might make Trump wish that he had not poked that hornet's nest. I sure hope so.

Cha

(320,547 posts)
23. Ohh, I hope so much for
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:28 PM
23 hrs ago

Anything happening that wishes PEDO had NOT "Poked the Hornet's Nest"!

TY!

Bev54

(13,517 posts)
24. I think the river basin includes Washington and Oregon and damns in BC prevent flooding in those areas
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:33 PM
23 hrs ago

and there is a damn in Montana that it affects as well. When it comes to electricity it also affects California, Idaho, Wyoming and Utah. It takes 10 years to get out of the agreement and while there was a renewal agreement last year, Trump has paused it. I do know in BC they are not playing with Trump because if he did rip up the agreement it would be the US mostly affected, the electricity from BC could be re-directed to Alberta which would help Carney's plan to electrify Canada on a full grid. The renewal is only on pause right now.

Cha

(320,547 posts)
29. Wow, you know a lot about it, Bev.
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:56 PM
22 hrs ago

Thank you for explaining that. Good information.

Those Red states should want to fight it, too.

KT2000

(22,220 posts)
65. this provides the context
Mon May 18, 2026, 06:32 PM
3 hrs ago

In order to make this agreement in 1964, Canada agreed to flood some of their own cities.

Attilatheblond

(9,223 posts)
57. Maybe a big boom in wind, solar, and tidal energy production?
Mon May 18, 2026, 03:06 PM
6 hrs ago

If power companies were smart, they would be all over the alternatives like bears on honey.

angrychair

(12,501 posts)
8. He did it because the PNW
Sun May 17, 2026, 09:28 PM
Yesterday

is heavily Democratic and this is just revenge. Well, I guess we will just be sitting around in the dark here

wnylib

(26,454 posts)
12. That's what I'm thinking.
Sun May 17, 2026, 09:57 PM
23 hrs ago

The governors of those states should get together for a solution. Probably will file suits.

Cha

(320,547 posts)
19. Yes again... forget my quesion in
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:11 PM
23 hrs ago

previous post. The Govs will have to figure it out.

💔💙 ☮️

My daughter and family live in Oregon, and my grandson and wife live in Seattle.. and friends in CA. And, just everybody.

JoseBalow

(9,739 posts)
9. If it's not oil or coal, he doesn't care
Sun May 17, 2026, 09:31 PM
Yesterday

He only cares about what takes care of him, and that ain't Big Hydro.

Coolgoober

(398 posts)
10. 3 Out Of 4
Sun May 17, 2026, 09:41 PM
Yesterday

Are blue states so he doesn't care. He'd rather hurt Canada than help Americans. He'll watch all those states suffer and not give it another thought. Cruelty is the purpose!

GiqueCee

(4,736 posts)
15. The man is a...
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:01 PM
23 hrs ago

... certifiable psychopath. Republicans are too corrupt and chicken shit to do anything about it. May his days end soon.

popsdenver

(2,628 posts)
60. Corporations are the nucleus
Mon May 18, 2026, 04:10 PM
5 hrs ago

of all this and they are loving the shit out of everything Trump/Republicans are doing.......

GiqueCee

(4,736 posts)
62. I agree...
Mon May 18, 2026, 04:53 PM
4 hrs ago

... corporatism is a cancer, and it's also what Benito Mussolini preferred to call his system of government. So there's that.
The only difference between Il Duce and the current fascism 2.0 is that today's facists have better tailors.

popsdenver

(2,628 posts)
63. Yup
Mon May 18, 2026, 05:03 PM
4 hrs ago

the simplest definition of FASCISM is the merger of Corporation and Govenment.....

We are already 99.999% there........

GiqueCee

(4,736 posts)
64. I've long referred to corporatism...
Mon May 18, 2026, 05:49 PM
3 hrs ago

... as the collusion of government and big business. Sounds more despicable.
I guess we're the pitiful .001% holdouts, eh?

progree

(13,076 posts)
13. Is this just the Pacific states being affected? What about the Midwest (Manitoba Hydro) and the Northeast?
Sun May 17, 2026, 09:59 PM
23 hrs ago

We're quite dependent in Minnesota on Manitoba Hydro's electricity. And I understand so are the northeastern states heavily reliant on Ontario Hydro, Quebec and others (I admit I only watched the first 2 1/2 minutes of the video). Asking for a friend.

Stargazer99

(3,563 posts)
22. I am damn sick and tired of Republicans allowing Trump using our tax money for his revenge
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:24 PM
23 hrs ago

what in the hell is the matter with you Republican idiots? Would you like the reverse done to you? It just shows that your party is not mature enough to take care of this nation by letting a spoiled brat have his temper tantrum and if the Demos get in power again you have set the situation to be used on you...this country will die and you will be responsible

mommymarine2003

(365 posts)
26. I am so sick of Trump. He is nothing but pure evil.
Sun May 17, 2026, 10:49 PM
22 hrs ago

I live in Oregon but am a transplanted Washingtonian. I see the Columbia Gorge from my house. The Columbia River is just a couple miles away. The Columbia River is the lifeblood of Washington and Oregon. Trump is too stupid to know that the river begins in Canada, and we needed the treaty to deal with flooding.

Ilsa

(64,565 posts)
46. Duck just in time? Hug Felon47 while self-immolating?
Mon May 18, 2026, 12:15 PM
9 hrs ago

Feed him chocolate and cheeseburgers until he strains so hard he has a brain aneurysm?

After the breaking news is announced, I'd prefer to hear "No Secret Service agents were harmed in the making of this international imperative."

vapor2

(4,908 posts)
30. THIS pedo is an aggressive cancer on our country
Sun May 17, 2026, 11:01 PM
22 hrs ago

Last edited Mon May 18, 2026, 06:45 PM - Edit history (1)

So sick of the lack of ANY accountability and the do nothing repugs

Boo1

(455 posts)
33. This is clickbait
Sun May 17, 2026, 11:24 PM
22 hrs ago

like a lot of Youtube political shit is.

It takes 10 years notification to exit.

Response to Boo1 (Reply #41)

Torchlight

(7,053 posts)
54. Quite a bit of wiggle room between the two extremes
Mon May 18, 2026, 02:52 PM
6 hrs ago

but I get it... sometimes nothing else suits the narrative.

ColoringFool

(1,071 posts)
34. "Because Governor Newscum REFUSED to TURN ON THE FAUCET! Big beautiful.....
Sun May 17, 2026, 11:34 PM
22 hrs ago

WATER could have been FLOWING DOWN THE COAST so all those slow toilets 10 flushes they need 10 flushes and all those drippy little showers and I LIKE MY SHOWERS could WORK!!!

NOW WATCH as the once great state of California ruined by Democrat ENEMIES OF THE PEOPLE gets lots of forest fires again, they still refuse to RAKE THE FORESTS to prevent fires, you know that, right? Fires so nasty and vicious. I think forest fires are Liberals!!!

TURN THE SPIGOTS ON, GOVERNOR NEWSCUM!!

Thank you for your attention to this matter."

ChicagoTeamster

(1,263 posts)
40. More Americans lose out because Trump just has to be an asshole. Trump probably did that to force those states to build
Mon May 18, 2026, 09:51 AM
11 hrs ago

coal fired electrical power plants.

Ford_Prefect

(8,665 posts)
47. Actually a significant part of the Columbia river begins in Western Montana and flows North into and then out of Canada.
Mon May 18, 2026, 01:30 PM
8 hrs ago

So like it or not the water feeding that basin and EVERYONE who thus benefits from it belongs to BOTH countries and cannot be diverted regardless of Stupid, Ignorant, Greedy, and apparently Mindless Donald, his creepy family and his corrupt enablers.

Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Walleye

(45,411 posts)
55. So I guess treaties don't have to be approved by the Senate anymore. That part of the Constitution gone
Mon May 18, 2026, 02:53 PM
6 hrs ago

Attilatheblond

(9,223 posts)
56. Beginning to think Trump, billionaires, GOP pols don't want regular people to have electricity.
Mon May 18, 2026, 03:03 PM
6 hrs ago

No electricity means no news and no communication. That seems likely to be the Oligarchs and crooks' wet dream at this point.

Cirsium

(4,108 posts)
58. Ridiculous clickbait
Mon May 18, 2026, 03:31 PM
6 hrs ago

The title for the video is itself a lie. "Trump Canceled Canada's 61-Year Water Treaty — 40% of U.S. Hydropower at Risk!" No, he did not. Donald Trump did not "just walk away from a 61-year-old treaty that quietly powers nearly 40 percent of America's hydroelectricity." The treaty is still in effect. 40% of U.S. hydropower is not at risk, unless Canada turned off that imaginary faucet they have. You know, the one that Trump talks about. Absolutely absurd.

The entire opening of the video is completely irrelevant nonsense. The video is supposedly about the Columbia River. The reporters are talking about water quality in the Great Lakes. At one point, the narrator is talking about the massive amount of tonnage that goes down the Columbia River, while the image is of a container ship going under the Golden Gate Bridge. Completely unrelated clips of Trump are thrown in here and there.

The random stock footage clips, often completely unrelated to the narrative, are pretty hilarious. The whole mess had to have been generated by AI.

Then we are treated to a long segment telling us how expensive it would be and how long it would take to build the power infrastructure necessary to replace that generated by the Columbia river. If what? If the Columbia river disappeared? Hard to say.

The suddenly we are talking about Taiwan. Who knows why? "Trump was in Beijing, sitting across from Xi Jinping, trying to manage another situation where America's economic power depends on systems it doesn't fully control. She reportedly warned Trump directly that mishandling Taiwan could push the relationship between the two countries into what he described as an extremely dangerous place."

Next, this howler: "And it lands harder when you remember that Taiwan produces the advanced semiconductors that run everything from American military hardware to artificial intelligence data centers. Data centers, by the way, that need enormous amounts of electricity. Electricity that in the Pacific Northwest comes from a river system Canada now controls more firmly than at any point in the last 20 years." Huh? Canada does not have firmer control than it did before.

Ten this: "There's also a domestic angle nobody wants to talk about. The Pacific Northwest has been a democratic leaning region for decades. Oregon and Washington reliably vote blue. The governors of both states have already started warning that federal policy is putting their economies at risk. If electricity rates spike, if industrial customers start losing reliability, if Bonneville has to renegotiate contracts under worse terms, the political backlash inside the United States will hit hardest in regions Trump didn't win anyway."

This segment says nothing:

"I want to be clear about something. This isn't a story about whether Trump was right or wrong to renegotiate the treaty. There are legitimate arguments that the Canadian entitlement should have been adjusted. There are legitimate arguments that aspects of the 1964 framework didn't account for modern climate realities. Reasonable people on both sides of the border believed modernization was overdue. The problem isn't that Washington wanted a new deal. The problem is that Washington walked away from the negotiating table thinking Canada would chase after them. Canada didn't, and now America is stuck with the old version of a treaty."


SupportSanity

(1,598 posts)
59. His goal is to kill America and Americans.
Mon May 18, 2026, 03:38 PM
6 hrs ago

And to make him and his cronies rich. Him first.

But definitely to kill America and Americans.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,574 posts)
61. Power demand will be growing in Canada , so this energy will get redirected East
Mon May 18, 2026, 04:47 PM
4 hrs ago

into Ontario and Quebec. Once done, it won't be coming back

Trump is destroying the USA and Republicans are complicit.

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