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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHunter Biden will be on Candace Owen's podcast on Thursday
This should be interesting. Clips show Hunter speaking about how his dad would never approve leveling of Gaza and the pressure put on his dad. Candace & Hunter agree their anti war stances brought them to this interview.
Candace now has one of the largest podcasts in the world - so Hunters words will be heard by millions - could reach as many as 40 million.
Walleye
(45,482 posts)Melon
(1,705 posts)By speaking out. He goes on cursing rants trying to defend but inevitably airs more dirt on himself or at the least just rekindles the negativity of the presidency. He is definitely not the spokesperson needed.
womanofthehills
(11,036 posts)Looking forward to hearing him speak about Iran & Gaza and who were the people trying to pressure his father.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,600 posts)Alex Jones had a huge following, but that didn't mean going on his show was a good opportunity to be heard.
And Hunter Biden's "anti-war stance" is frankly irrelevant. He's not a politician. He has something to say about the Republican lies about his dad, and that's basically it.
EdmondDantes_
(2,089 posts)Yeah I get that there's a benefit to reaching across the aisle and it's hard to find a good faith right winger, but Owens wouldn't be my choice to do an podcast with.
womanofthehills
(11,036 posts)And - at least shes anti -Trump, anti-war and really going after Tutning Points & Erika for the hypocrites they are.
So many videos online of Charlie Kirk warring Trump not to bomb Iran and he even going to Trumps office many times requesting him not to bomb Iran. Charlie refused any more money from Netanyahu because of the killings of children. He did an abrupt turn around on his Israel stance. He told everyone he was going to be killed for this, . I think the world is listening to Candace because its like a big mystery in real time. Turning Points absolutely hates Candace and shes even being sued by Brian Harpool Meanwhile, TPUSA is losing kids because they are preaching pro Israel - war is fine stuff - and losing the kids. Charlies podcast now run by TPUSA is losing its audience. Ugh
Must admit her show has a mystery novel vibe. Who really killed Charlie according to Candace. . I love to listen to all the Civil war drama now going on in the Republican Party. Republicans have totally lost the Independents. If Massie wins today - a monster FU to Trump.
Charlie Kirkss bodyguards knew he was warned not to turn on Israel as bad stuff would happen. Candace read a very threatening letter Charlie got from a donor. He was calling people saying he was going to be killed. His body guards should have heightened security but they did did not even clean sweep the roof, or check with a drone or require metal detectors.
The Republicans party is in huge disarray- Hunter knows that and is getting in on the divide.
EdmondDantes_
(2,089 posts)Lots of people have criticized Israel's tactics in Gaza and elsewhere. What made Kirk so special? Also there's no evidence of this.
Popularity isn't equal to worthy or accurate.
womanofthehills
(11,036 posts)Not only attending rallies but there were Turning Points cllubs in hundreds of high schools and colleges. When Charlie turned against Israel like Tucker, Candace, Alex Jones, Dave Smith, MTG - this threatened the lifestyle and millions of dollar houses of Turning Points employees.
When Kirk was alive, TP had 1200 high school chapters and 900 college chapters. Thats reaching a lot of Republican kids. And another 1000 schools had a less formal presence. So around 3500 groups of TPUSA.
Reported income in 2024 was around 85 million with total assets another 18 million.
Netanyahu even came out and said he didnt kill Charlie - who does tha? Netanyahu kills all the press in Gaza and Lebanon.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,600 posts)Political commentator Candace Owens urged her audience to read a 19th-century antisemitic book and accused Jews of orchestrating the transatlantic slave trade and racial conflict between Caucasian and African Americans during her YouTube show over the weekend.
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And Ive learned whats in that Talmud, Owens continued, holding up an English copy of Der Talmudjude. I encourage other people at home to learn what is in that Talmud so that you know what Ben thinks of you because he doesnt just hate me, he hates you, too, white men. He hates all black people.
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Der Talmudjude, by anti-Jewish German Catholic theologian August Rohling, claimed that the Talmud commanded Jews to steal, lie, cheat, and kill Christians.
Rohling had repeatedly spread the libel that Jews consumed human blood in murder rituals. The theologians scholarship was cast into doubt during a failed libel suit against one of his detractors, but Der Talmudjude has remained a mainstay of antisemitic texts.
Owens spread other conspiracy theories as well, saying that the American slave trade was controlled by Jews. She called on black Americans to turn their ire on Jews instead of holding grudges against white Americans. The podcast host further indicated the belief that Jews were manipulating different religious and ethnic groups to fight one another.
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-881052
The book first appeared when Bismarck inaugurated his anti-Catholic legislation, as a retort to the attacks made by liberal journals on the dogma of papal infallibility and on Jesuitic textbooks.[1] The book was extensively quoted by the Catholic press, but it did not become a political force until the appearance of anti-Semitism, and the Tiszaeszlár Affair in 1883. Franz Delitzsch defended Judaism against the attacks of Rohling. At the same time Josef Samuel Bloch wrote articles in which he accused Rohling of ignorance and of forgery of the texts. Rohling sued Bloch for libel, but withdrew the suit at the last moment. Later on he greeted the appearance of Zionism as the solution of the Jewish question and wrote a pamphlet against Güdemann's "Das Judenthum in Seinen Grundzügen," etc.
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Der Talmudjude remained a popular text well in to the 1930s. The Nazi publicist Julius Streicher drew on Rohling's arguments in his antisemitic newspaper Der Stürmer.[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Rohling
Michelle Goldberg, New York Times:
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This is partly a story about conservatives creating a monster they cant control. Owens, after all, has been saying nutty things for a long time. In 2019 she left her job as communications director of Turning Point not long after arguing that Hitlers real sin was globalism, not nationalism. (If Hitler just wanted to make Germany great, she said, it would have been fine.) Rather than ostracize her, however, powerful conservative organizations cultivated her. Republicans invited her to testify before Congress about why white nationalism wasnt a problem. In 2020 Shapiro hired her at The Daily Wire, his media company, which is where she began her podcast. (They split in 2024 over her increasingly antisemitic views.) Having elevated her in large part for her willingness to say outrageous things about her opponents, people on the right are now surprised by her willingness to say outrageous things about them.
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If patriots arent in control, it raises the question of who is. Unsurprisingly, some entrepreneurial figures on the right have settled on a reliable answer: the Jews. Owens especially has taken this most elemental of paranoid fixations and turned it into something between a soap opera and a live-action role-playing game. Its necessary for people to recognize how greatly evil these Zionists are, Owens said on her podcast this week, describing them as Trotskyites who employ Soviet techniques of mind control. The implication is that if you reject her, youre falling into their trap.
https://archive.ph/PJCM5
"at least shes anti -Trump, anti-war" - who gives a fuck what she's claiming at the moment about "war"? Remember, Trump said he was anti-war. He was lying.
I think "the world is listening to Candace" (I'm worried you're on first name terms with her) because that "world" is stupid and bigoted.
"her show has a mystery novel vibe" - for fuck's sake, this is the woman trying to say the French president's wife is a secret transgender woman. The vibe is "bigoted QAnon fanatic".
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