Iran SHOULD have a nuclear weapon

[31st Street Bridge]

Then the child rapist wouldn't dare touch them.
Despite its $4 billion-a-day military budget, America only punches down.
It's like a Division-1 college football power playing Division-3 teams every week.

[Walleye]

1. Really, Cuba. For crying out loud.

[some_of_us_are_sane]

3. He's pathetic!

[Walleye]

5. He's lost his fucking mind and he is intent on making that whole party just as crazy

They seem to be pretty compliant and submissive.

[some_of_us_are_sane]

6. I don't know "US" anymore....

We've DISSOLVED our goodness as a nation JUST IN TIME FOR OUR 250th "BIRTHDAY".

i could weep.

[Walleye]

9. I feel exactly the same

We are now a country that arrests people for expressing free speech. We attack fish boats without any proof. And we lock up immigrants in brutal conditions without any kind of due process. That’s who we are now. The whole Republican party seems fine with it

[some_of_us_are_sane]

24. Yep. I feel like

I've just woken up in THE TWILIGHT ZONE.

[Walleye]

26. Very disorienting to all of us

Especially those of us who are raised with a belief in the United States

[peppertree]

27. And now, Bolivia.

Long one of the poorest and most isolated countries in the W. Hemisphere, it's become of geopolitical interest in the last 20 or so years - since being found to be home of one of the world's largest (and mostly untapped) Lithium reserves.

Right on cue, El Bastardo is now rattling America's sabres against them.

And since Bolivians are mostly indigenous, he's convinced his Chumpkins will hoot and holler at the thought (as they did with Venezuela).

[some_of_us_are_sane]

2. CORRECT! He's a bully

and they only pick on someone smaller. We don't see him threatening EITHER China or Russia.

[dalton99a]

4. Every nation has the right to self-defense and credible deterrence.

The U.S., Russia and China are bullies because their victims don't have nuclear weapons.

[TheProle]

7. Hard disagree

I suggest you're letting your frustration and hatred of Trump cloud your judgment.

Iran is a brutal theocracy that has killed more than 7000 of its own people in the last year, executes people for protesting, executes people for being gay and prohibits women from applying for a passport, choosing where to live or being head of household.

They have an institutionalized framework that allows tens of thousands of 10-14 year old girls to be married off.

[Walleye]

10. That may be all true, but we have no moral authority anymore

And hatred of Trump is completely completely rational. What’s not to hate?

[TheProle]

13. Hate is no substitute for rationality.

I'll stand with these guys:

"Iran will never get a nuclear weapon on my watch." President Biden

"Remember, I have always insisted that I will do what is necessary to prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon, and I will." - President Obama

"We are committed to working with our allies to ensure that Iran does not acquire nuclear weapons, because a nuclear-armed Iran is a threat to the region and the entire world." - President Clinton

[Walleye]

14. I think just about everybody is against it, but we never started a war to prevent it to help Israel

And by closing the Strait of Hormuz, Iran is already blackmailing the whole world

[TheProle]

16. Not the OP.

So I will use my voice as a member of this community to state my objections.

DU visitors have the right to know that there is no consensus here on what I consider to be borderline crackpot-ism.

[Walleye]

18. We are all suffering from PTSD here

[questionseverything]

17. Iran is more progressive than afghanistan by leaps and bounds

So while I don’t want them to have the bomb, they weren’t really close anyway so please don’t pretend it’s about human rights when we abandoned the woman of afghanistan and now we are in the process of abandoning the men that helped our servicemen there

[Melon]

8. No way should Iran ever have a nuclear weapon.

Trump is shit.
Iran are fanatical terrorist government that support suicidal ideology. These two statements are true.
I’m on the side of not understanding how our party can wish our enemies have the means to destroy us.
I do not support the ideology in our party. Iran has pledged death to America for decades, and our own party politicians campaigned on a tough stance on Iran until today. This new strategy of uplifting our enemies and disparaging our country outside of our leadership is not a winning strategy.

[dpibel]

19. "The means to destroy us"?

Hyperbolize much?

Anyone who thinks that Iran would ever have the capability of destroying the United States needs to do a little fact-based analysis.

[Melon]

20. You'd eat a nuclear weapon in any western city?

How about in London? They can reach London.
How about a dirty bomb in a US city?

You need to take a step back and stop idolizing enemies of our country because you don’t like the president. The war has already started and members here wish Iran had a nuclear weapon. It’s insane to think that we are at that point. I’m not.

[dpibel]

23. Transparent diversion

You need to step back and stop terrorizing yourself.

Your words: "I’m on the side of not understanding how our party can wish our enemies have the means to destroy us."

I pointed out that is hysterical hyperbole.

You respond with "a city."

Do I think that would be a good thing? Of course I do not. Don't be daft.

But tell me: What happens after these madmen blow up this city?

The world surrenders?

Or Iran is made into nuclear glass?

You honestly believe that for the joy of nuking one city, Iran would consign itself to actual annihilation?

I think you have been reading to much scary stuff about The Muslins.

But, hey. As Charles P. Pierce says: That shit won't stir itself.

[AloeVera]

29. I really enjoyed this post.

Ikr?

[Blues Heron]

11. Nukes save lives- its a deterrent. If Iran had one a lot of girls would be alive today. instead they were killed by

the brutality of the bibi and Trump regimes. The mullahs have no monopoly on brutality

[PCB66]

12. Those Mullahs running that country

are batshit crazy and they hate the US and mostly everybody else. It has been that way for almost 50 years now.

The country they run is not that far removed from what was described in The Handmaid's Tale. In fact it was the inspiration for the book. Out of control religious fanaticism.

I would hate to see them a nuclear power. Nothing good can come of it.

[Walleye]

15. Yes, they are terrible. But Trump also hates the US.

They weren’t that close to getting a nuke.

[Torchlight]

22. I think no nation should posses even one

but as that cat's out of the bag, and as Mr. trump's thoroughly illustrated his cavalier attitude about a nuclear conflict, my position is that our nation gave up the moral high ground and has little to no room to lecture anyone (outside of our state-sanctioned tantrums, of course)

[Xolodno]

25. At this point...

...fairly sure they will indeed develop one. They were willing to play ball and not do so in exchange for some economic relief. Now? We pushed them into a new stance.

[H2O Man]

28. I would prefer

that no country (or group) have nuclear weapons. Of course, that isn't going to happen any time soon. Yet I still think that President Kennedy was correct in opposing Israel's getting nukes.

In no manner do I have a positive opinion of Iran's government. Or, for that matter, the current governments of the United States or Israel. But I do recognize that Iran has the right and responsibility to protect its citizens from attacks by other nations. More, I consider Netanyahu's "they are only two weeks away!" to be the sibling of the "yellow cake/ mushroom cloud" bullshit that this country was subjected to leading up to the last necroconservative war we fought for Israel.