THIS! MSNOW reporter explains what we've seen in R primaries perfectly!

[senseandsensibility]

MSNOW reporter Mychael Schnell just reported that although trump's hold over the party is still "extremely strong", the Kentucky R voters she spoke to did not know why they were voting against Massie. They could not give any examples of actions Massie had taken that they disapproved of. In fact, when one woman said that she was upset that Massie had voted to impeach trump, the reporter corrected her and said that Massie had not done that.. The woman was flabbergasted, and then had no response or reason for opposing Massie.

So, as usual, these voters are low information cult members who simply vote however trump tells them to vote. (I know, what a way to go through life), but how meaningful is that? Well, even the R voters willing to do that are shrinking, polls show. Independents are leaning for Dems, and of course the Dem base is ENERGIZED.

We will easily win the House and maybe the Senate if we get the majority of Independents, virtually all the Dems with a good turnout, and about twenty percent of Rs.
Why worry about what some low information magas do? They are not powerful enough to matter in the general election.

[dalton99a]

1. The cultists are irredeemable. Focus on turnout and independents

[senseandsensibility]

3. Irredeemable

sums it up perfectly. But why does the corporate media and even some Dems spend so much time worrying about them? That time, for Dems at least, should be spent on reaching out to Independents and energizing the Dem base.

[BaronChocula]

10. "But why does the corporate media and even some Dems spend so much time worrying about them?"

Because of the love affair with the notion of "Middle America" which has always favored areas that have now become "red." The media hasn't caught up with how America has changed. It now puts certain undue priority on white trumpy voters which unfairly amplifies their profile.

But gotta love seeing trumpy voters bitch about the current situation.

[mikeysnot]

2. If they were smart

They would not be trump followers.

[Uncle Joe]

4. Massie will probably run in 28 which would be a direct challenge to Vance's dark money campaign

Thanks for the thread senseandsensibility

[MustLoveBeagles]

5. I like our chances

Still not counting any chickens.

[sinkingfeeling]

6. They're trying to prove they're too stupid to be in a democracy.

[yardwork]

19. It's the one thing they've succeeded in doing.

[FakeNoose]

7. Shut down Faux Noise, force these people to think for themselves

.... suddenly America becomes sane again, almost overnight.

[nuxvomica]

8. I hope some legal mind is working out how to do wholesale impeachments

And someone else is working out how to get Alcatraz up and running. We will need to do to this gang what Iceland did to their rotten bankers: put them on a separate island. It may seem premature to be thinking about this but if all goes well we should have a plan ready.

[infullview]

9. If we do win back the House and Senate we need to go scorched Earth

[Ray Bruns]

11. "The woman was flabbergasted, and then had no response or reason for opposing Massie."

[angrychair]

12. I think that is the wrong takeaway

It's far worse than imagined.
They spent $33 million dollars to spread that disinformation.
There was even a fake video circulating that showed Massie with Rep AOC and Rep Omar getting out of a car together to go into a hotel for a three way affair that was 100% fake, Al generated, but some people believed it.

There are multiple billionaires involved in this and they control almost all forms of mass communication. They control almost all TV stations, radio stations, social media and cable companies and movie production.

If you are not worried, you should be.

[NoMoreRepugs]

18. I agree AngryChair. The BillionAireBoyzClub control of media should worry us all.

[moonbeam23]

27. Thanks to Bill Clinton n/t

[Ray Bruns]

13. Hey MAGA.

[ToxMarz]

14. These people just seem to need to be in some sort of "cult, and this one seems to work for them so there they will stay.

This used to be pretty much the sole purvue of sports and didn't require much thought (just a display of devotion to be accepted), but now they have substituted poltics as their team and it is dangerous. Sports didn't hold the power of the State and wasn't charged with serving the people and defending/protecting our rights equally. When those mandates are subject to a winners and losers mentality as a zero sum game this is where we are.

[senseandsensibility]

24. I agree.

But instead of sports, I would narrow it down even further to pro wrestling. Real sports involve rules and sportsmanship and true ability and things like that. These voters are more into showmanship and entertainment. And like wrestling, not caring if the show is "real" or just an act is essential. Trump's schtick requires you to just accept what's in front of you at face value and not care if you are being lied to.

[NameAlreadyTaken]

15. Gaslighting

[Escurumbele]

16. "They are not powerful enough to matter in the general election." They are powerful enough to vote R for the Senate, and

in order to fix this mess we, Democrats, need both the house and the senate.

Democrats need to educate these people, they continually make the wrong choices because they do not try to inform themselves, not even do a little research before voting, so it is up to the DNC to do whatever they can to educate these people, to try hard to open their eyes about how bad things are going, how corrupt republicans are.

We are watching "Theodore Roosevelt" in Netflix, I read the three books of his biography by Edmund Morris, it is very comprehensive, the documentary is very good, it is a super summary of the books, although I am not sure the documentary is based on Morris books. For anyone who does not understand what being progressive is, this is a must read. I have always called TR the last good republican, a man who changed the USA for the better, one that even republicans didn't like, for obvious reasons.

[OMGWTF]

17. The 30ish percent that are still MAGAts are likely getting their "information" from Fux (oops, a typo) News

and other propaganda sources. If any of them can be rehabilitated, the first thing they need to do is realize that they have been lied to for the last 45 years, ever since St. Ronny Raygun gave Rupert Murdoch a fast-track to citizenship and had his FCC scrap the Fairness Doctrine, which prevented news sources from lying to the public. Any remaining MAGAts are Dunning-Kruger poster kids -- too stupid to know that they are stupid.

[modrepub]

20. I've Seen The Same Low Participation

voters show up at my polling site; ones wearing Trump hats and reflective vests. I’d like to say you’re wasting your time trying to engage them. Best we can hope for this November is for them to be bored and stay home.

What I’d love to see is something like the Berlin Wall constructed to keep these people away from me. It’s like having your hand held while the other person grabs an electric fence just to watch you scream.

Forget appeasement. Keep the tax money where it’s paid. Make state and local governments pay part of the cost for the things they want. How many times have Republicans voted against spending then brag about how much federal money they’ve funneled into their districts? Make failing schools and infrastructure a local problem and maybe folks will see the light and elect representatives who have their best interests at heart in stead of some far off big wig or billionaire.

[City Lights]

21. Kudos to the reporter for correcting the voter about Massie

and impeachment. Usually the reporter says nothing and just allows the voter to spew nonsense, just like they often do with Pedo Rapist.

[SergeStorms]

22. Well, The Donald is.....

a plain speaking, honest, man of the people, so why wouldn't you believe him?

As if it's necessary..........

When are these MAGAts going to crawl back beneath their rocks and never vote again?
Honestly, they're too ignorant to participate in our system of government.

[SidneyR]

23. Every time people are absolutely certain Democrats are way ahead and bound to win

the next election, it turns out to be either real close, or they outright lose. Republicans always find ways to cut into the earlier lead.

[sop]

25. Only 17.5% of all registered Republican voters in Kentucky's 4th Congressional District voted for Gallrein.

Kentucky's 4th Congressional District primary votes, by the numbers:

- Kentucky has a closed primary voting system; to vote for a Republican candidate in the state's Republican primary, a voter must be registered as a Republican.

- Kentucky's 4th Congressional District has a population of 776.082 (as of 2024).

- There are 308,742 registered Republican voters in Kentucky's 4th Congressional district.

- There were 104,071 total votes cast in the Kentucky 4th Republican primary: Gallrein received 57,053 votes, Massie 47, 018 votes.

- Only 33.7% (104,071) of all registered Republican voters in Kentucky's 4th district voted in the Republican congressional primary.

- Only 17.5% (57,053) of all registered Republican voters in Kentucky's 4th district voted for Gallrein.

[senseandsensibility]

26. Very enlightening stats

Thanks.

[sleroy49]

28. If ignorance is bliss ...

these MAGA morons have gotta be the most blissful idiots in the history of our species.

[senseandsensibility]

29. They are probably very complacent indeed

living in their own little bubble. I don't envy them though.