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Hes confessing out loud and in public
Trump: Because in my world loyalty outranks law .
They broke the rules for me , so you pay the bill for them . Thats the transaction .

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Irish_Dem
(82,361 posts)He admits it right out in the open.
Walleye
(45,482 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,361 posts)Maybe in world history.
Right up there with the Borgias as history's most dangerous family.
Walleye
(45,482 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,361 posts)He loves causing suffering and pain.
It turns him on.
And he loves the power and control.
Also turns him on.
Walleye
(45,482 posts)Irish_Dem
(82,361 posts)If we are going to list his hobbies, we have to include that as well.
Walleye
(45,482 posts)Especially us taxpayers. But he needs a bigger high and I think killing people is it I guess he never knew he could get away with it.
Irish_Dem
(82,361 posts)He loves the planning and tricking people part for sex and money crimes.
We can see this by how he planned his rapes against adult women.
Blues Heron
(9,035 posts)Walleye
(45,482 posts)UpInArms
(55,374 posts)Is that a confession that you incited an insurrection?
Go to jail on your way to hell, you gawdawful piece of excrement
dweller
(28,701 posts)to me
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some_of_us_are_sane
(3,575 posts)UpInArms
(55,374 posts)The daily assaults are just horrifying
intheflow
(30,253 posts)Kid Berwyn
(25,109 posts)Or is it Mob Boss and a Traitor?
Either way, he's past due for the lock up.
H2O Man
(79,257 posts)Last edited Wed May 20, 2026, 05:31 PM - Edit history (1)
Recommended -- both the OP and your post.
The mob boss I long found most repulsive was Whitey Bulger. I used to talk with our late friend Will Pitt about Whitey, including some of his extended family's experience in opposing that rabid piece of shit. (One of my late uncles had been under cover investigating the Irish mob in Albany and Boston. Ruthless bastards. His widow recently told my son & I other stories about those events that involved gross violence against innocent people for "fun." )
This president is not only the worst to ever hold that office, but the worst cowardly punk to head a mob.
Kid Berwyn
(25,109 posts)Now, if FBI agents in Boston can be bought for a few greenbacks, imagine what somebody with real money can do? Say, Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch in New York City, where he "hired" Charles McGonigal the FBI's counter-espionage chief to look the other way as Putin personally greased the machine of tangerine traitor in 2016, 2020 and 2024.
Did the FBIs Charles McGonigal Help Throw the 2016 Election to Trump?
The shocking indictments against the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in New York raise many dark questions.
Craig Unger
The New Republic, February 1, 2023
In the course of writing two books on Donald Trumps ties to Russia, the same question occurred to me again and again: How is it possible that I knew all sorts of stuff about Donald Trump, and the FBI didnt seem to have a clue? Or if they did, why werent they doing anything with it?
Specifically, I knew that:
* Starting in 1980, an alleged spotter agent for the KGB began cultivating Trump as a new asset for Soviet intelligence.
* The Russian mafia laundered millions of dollars through Donald Trumps real estate by purchasing condos in all-cash transactions through anonymous corporations that did not disclose real ownership.
* Trump Tower was a home away from home for Vyacheslav Ivankov, one of the most brutal leaders of the Russian mafia, and at least 13 people with known or alleged links to the mafia held the deeds to, lived in, or ran alleged criminal operations out of Trump Tower in New York or other Trump properties.
* Trump was some $4 billion in debt when the Russians came to bail him out via the Bayrock Group, a real estate firm that was largely staffed, owned, and financed by Soviet émigrés who had ties to Russian intelligence and/or organized crime.
SNIP...
Much of my material came from FBI documents. A lot came from open-source databases. It made no sense. There was an astounding amount of data on the public record. The FBI had launched enormous investigations of the Russian mafia in the 1980s. They had staked out a New York electronics store that was a haven for KGB officers. They knew thats where the Trump Organization bought hundreds of TV sets. They had their eyes on Ivankov and other Russian mobsters who were denizens of Trumps casinos and bought and sold his condos through shell companies. They had to know that Trump laundered money for and provided a base of operations for the Russian mafia, which was, after all, a de facto state actor tied to Russian intelligence. They had to know that the Russians repeatedly bailed Trump out when he was bankrupt. They had to know that Russia owned him.
Im well aware of the strict secrecy that accompanies ongoing investigations as a matter of procedure. But once the Mueller Report was finally released, it became crystal clear that Robert Muellers investigation dealt only with criminal matters, not counterintelligence. Trump had been thoroughly compromised by Russia and was a grave threat to national security. But the FBI wasnt doing anything about it!
One reason for that may have been that on far too many occasions, FBI men in sensitive positions ended up on the take from the very people they were supposed to be investigating. And on January 23, a bomb dropped: We learned that the latest of these is Charles McGonigal, the former head of counterintelligence for the FBI in New York, who ended up working for billionaire oligarch Oleg Deripaska, a major target in the Trump Russia investigation. McGonigal was indicted in Manhattan on charges of money laundering, violating U.S. sanctions, and other counts relating to his alleged ties to Deripaska. He was also indicted in Washington, where he was accused of concealing $225,000 he allegedly received from a New Jersey man employed long ago by Albanian intelligence.
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https://newrepublic.com/article/170328/charles-mcgonigal-throw-2016-election
I can not wait for the trials. Until that happy day, let us enjoy their inept criminality which makes their prosecution a piece of cake.
H2O Man
(79,257 posts)I love it!
But, of course, you and I are aware of the long history of the mafia and other ethnic mobs' connections to both intelligence and law enforcement, going back way, way before Cuba. Indeed, I thank you for your outstanding research. I've learned new things from your contributions.
One of the very worst features in today's society is the convicted sex offender/ felon has been able to fire a shocking number within the group in the FBI that -- because they take the threat of the now more international nature of organized crime as a serious threat to our country. And we see that international influence these days, including in a couple of the recent primaries. Try to uphold the Constitution or be oppossed to and outraged by the Epstein operation, and millions will come into your primary opponent's campaign.
You've got me thinking ...... I'm going to make an outline in my head, and then make an OP, so it while be your fault! I'm thinking back to something that Rubin told me years ago.
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