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Iran rejects deal. Attacks Kuwaiti base, Americans injured (Original Post) SamuelTheThird 9 hrs ago OP
Was there ever even a deal to reject? These "deals" seem to have been nothing more Ocelot II 9 hrs ago #1
True, deal is over-stated SamuelTheThird 9 hrs ago #3
No! Ray Bruns 7 hrs ago #25
So much worse than a Prairie_Seagull 9 hrs ago #2
The "deal" JBTaurus83 9 hrs ago #4
Manipulating the market for fun and profit. multigraincracker 9 hrs ago #5
And a lot of deflection from the Epstein Files. republianmushroom 9 hrs ago #8
link please hookaleft 9 hrs ago #6
Bloomberg has the attack on a US base in Kuwait muriel_volestrangler 9 hrs ago #7
https://x.com/World_Affairs11/status/2060609851777073488 SamuelTheThird 9 hrs ago #9
That appears to be their continued general "we won't be pushed around" rhetoric muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #11
I think you're parsing too much SamuelTheThird 8 hrs ago #17
The Mehr article has nothing about an "offer" muriel_volestrangler 8 hrs ago #18
lol fine, don't use the word offer SamuelTheThird 8 hrs ago #19
Here's one. There are several if you want to look. littlemissmartypants 7 hrs ago #26
BREAKING: Iran Launches Missile at U.S.-Linked Base in Kuwait Reported Injuries ⚡️🇮🇷 LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #10
Prayers for the troops, curses for those who launched this unnecessary war. surfered 8 hrs ago #12
"Iranian state media" gulliver 8 hrs ago #13
I'm not seeing this reported on any mainstream including Guardian, the bloom link is pay only so who knows. nt ImNotGod 8 hrs ago #14
Checked BBC, the Independent and AP nitpicked 8 hrs ago #16
So we shouldn't pay attention to what Iran's media says? SamuelTheThird 8 hrs ago #15
It's what the Republicans would love us to post gulliver 8 hrs ago #20
What you're saying is rather bizarre SamuelTheThird 7 hrs ago #21
"State media" gulliver 7 hrs ago #23
Theocratic. Patriarchal. Homophobic in the extreme. Bigoted. SamuelTheThird 7 hrs ago #24
The handing of Iran and Ukraine are maybe the worst foreign policy decisions in our country's history Buckeyeblue 7 hrs ago #22
Its Saturday. By Tueday there will be an semblance of a deal again. Humpy Dumpty and friends n/t Cheezoholic 7 hrs ago #27
Remember, deal on...deal off, market up market down ashredux 6 hrs ago #28
I wonder how many more millions of dollars Trump will give Iran for injuring our troops. chowder66 6 hrs ago #29
The military does not have to follow illegal orders. BidenRocks 6 hrs ago #30
It will get worse. If the US couldn't sort things out in Afghanistan in 12 years after the Russians couldn't ... marble falls 4 hrs ago #31

Ocelot II

(131,429 posts)
1. Was there ever even a deal to reject? These "deals" seem to have been nothing more
Sat May 30, 2026, 11:15 AM
9 hrs ago

than loose agreements for future talks about the possibility of a deal. The quagmire deepens.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,666 posts)
11. That appears to be their continued general "we won't be pushed around" rhetoric
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:02 PM
8 hrs ago

when you look at what the Mehr News Agency actually wrote, at https://en.mehrnews.com/news/244874/Iran-rejects-Western-ultimatums-eyes-new-order-for-Hormuz , rather than a specific statement about the proposals (which Trump has also not made a statement about)

muriel_volestrangler

(106,666 posts)
18. The Mehr article has nothing about an "offer"
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:47 PM
8 hrs ago

so I'm not sure why you've put it in quotes. The mention of Trump in the article is

'Responding to questions about Trump's statements regarding the elimination of Iran's enriched uranium stockpile, Baghaei said, "At this stage, our focus is on ending the war, and we have nothing to say about details related to enrichment and Iran's enriched uranium."'

And, as we all know, Trump hasn't actually made an "offer" yet - he's held a meeting, and then said nothing (who knows why - normally he shoots his mouth off and others have to clear up).

I would say you are reading too much into an Iranian news article.

SamuelTheThird

(1,298 posts)
19. lol fine, don't use the word offer
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:48 PM
8 hrs ago

There's not even a framework for the discussions. It's worse than what I'm saying. Nothing is going to be agreed upon and the world is going to slip into an economic depression.

littlemissmartypants

(34,651 posts)
26. Here's one. There are several if you want to look.
Sat May 30, 2026, 01:44 PM
7 hrs ago

Americans injured in Iranian missile strike on Kuwaiti airbase

https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/americans-injured-in-iranian-missile-strike-on-kuwaiti-air-base

The Straits Times is out of Singapore but also does world news.

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
13. "Iranian state media"
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:28 PM
8 hrs ago

I'm not seeing it on WaPo, NYT, or WSJ. Do you have a link to Bloomberg?

I personally think even saying "Iranian state media" on DU should trigger the kookiness rule. We're getting to the midterms, and there's nothing Republicans would like better than to see references to that.

Honestly, it should be enough to reiterate the simple fact that the Iranian Islamic Republic regime is nothing but bigots and theocrats. Google it if you have any doubt.

ImNotGod

(1,244 posts)
14. I'm not seeing this reported on any mainstream including Guardian, the bloom link is pay only so who knows. nt
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:33 PM
8 hrs ago

SamuelTheThird

(1,298 posts)
15. So we shouldn't pay attention to what Iran's media says?
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:42 PM
8 hrs ago

What you're saying makes no sense. If you don't want to know the news, don't read it.

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
20. It's what the Republicans would love us to post
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:52 PM
8 hrs ago

It's not even progressive or liberal. Just look up the Iranian Islamic Republic and what its composed of. It's billionaires. It's oligarchs. It's theocrats. It's homophobes. It's about as patriarchal as you can get.

They have nothing to say that anyone should care about. The good news is, anyone who cares what Iranian Islamic Republic state media has to say can Google them. It can be very freeing.

SamuelTheThird

(1,298 posts)
21. What you're saying is rather bizarre
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:57 PM
7 hrs ago

Pointing out what Iran's government is saying is not an endorsement of theocracy, anymore than reporting what Hegseth is saying is an endorsement of christian theocracy.

And no one's vote is going to hinge on reporting what Iran's media is saying. Maybe something llike -oh I dont know- gas prices is what people will vote on

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
23. "State media"
Sat May 30, 2026, 01:02 PM
7 hrs ago

And it's the Iranian Islamic Republic. Theocratic. Patriarchal. Homophobic in the extreme. Bigoted. And we haven't even brought up murderous.

Murderous.

Why not look up the Manson Family Gazette? It's probably out there. No links please.

SamuelTheThird

(1,298 posts)
24. Theocratic. Patriarchal. Homophobic in the extreme. Bigoted.
Sat May 30, 2026, 01:09 PM
7 hrs ago

Yes or no. Give me a yes or no answer. Do those words describe Pete Hegseth or not? I bet you won't be able to answer a simple yes or no answer like that.

Frankly, your complaint is pretty silly. It's state media. It's an accurate description. It's not a term of flattery in anyone's head except yours.

Buckeyeblue

(6,447 posts)
22. The handing of Iran and Ukraine are maybe the worst foreign policy decisions in our country's history
Sat May 30, 2026, 12:58 PM
7 hrs ago

If you think about it, the lack of support for Ukraine and the Iran aggression are on a world wide scale much worse the W's Iraq war and you could argue it is worse than the escalation in Vietnam.

I know the 55k families that lost someone in Vietnam, along with the countless others who dealt with the physical and psychological aftermath would argue differently.

But I'm looking on the scale of the world. Trump has sided with Putin. He seems to have no interest in containing China. And with Iran, he is putting much of the world's energy supply at risk.

He is a mess. And should be removed from office.

Cheezoholic

(3,974 posts)
27. Its Saturday. By Tueday there will be an semblance of a deal again. Humpy Dumpty and friends n/t
Sat May 30, 2026, 01:54 PM
7 hrs ago

chowder66

(12,563 posts)
29. I wonder how many more millions of dollars Trump will give Iran for injuring our troops.
Sat May 30, 2026, 02:07 PM
6 hrs ago

Seems to me he's paying them to kill or injure Americans.

BidenRocks

(3,551 posts)
30. The military does not have to follow illegal orders.
Sat May 30, 2026, 02:07 PM
6 hrs ago

Without congressional approval, these are illegal orders!
If we stop attacking, what is chump going to do? Sue the entire military.

I should feel bad when we are attacked, but this is how war works.
Chump thinks we are above retaliation!

Leading like a true draft dodging coward and loser!

No HONOR!

marble falls

(72,664 posts)
31. It will get worse. If the US couldn't sort things out in Afghanistan in 12 years after the Russians couldn't ...
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:48 PM
4 hrs ago

... sort things out in 8 years. Iran will continue to prove a very resilient "weaker" opponent.

The only way the US comes out of this a winner is for TACO and Hogsbreath to declare a decisive victory and march troops down 5th avenue in New York.

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