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Mme. Defarge

(9,067 posts)
Sat May 30, 2026, 03:55 PM 8 hrs ago

With respect to Doctor Biden's concern

that her husband may have been drugged before, or during, the ill-fated debate, don’t forget how Trump hovered menacingly over Clinton during their debate.

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hlthe2b

(114,828 posts)
1. Well, he was at least jet lagged. Has it every been publicly revealed whether he was given
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:02 PM
8 hrs ago

anything on that international trip to regulate sleep that might well have persisting effects in an 80+ year old man? (e.g., Ambien or Lunesta...? )

hlthe2b

(114,828 posts)
6. Biden had blamed jetlag and he had had a very heavy travel schedule, but yeah... he should
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:19 PM
8 hrs ago

have recovered in that amount of time unless he did not sleep during his "prep" time at Camp David.

I had thought the travel to the fundraiser was within a day or two of the debate, but no. He wasn't traveling during that last week.

But seeing him during that debate, he did act as though he'd been drugged. I see both strokes and the effects of Ambien and similar drugs in the elderly all the time coming through the ER. He seemed drugged to me. TIAs are possible, but he seemed more continuously "out of it," until the very end when he seemed to improve. Both argue for drug effects or severe sleep deprivation.

BUT FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO CLAIM JILL BIDEN WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR NOT RUSHING THE STAGE if she thought he'd had a stroke, as with all travel, Biden was accompanied by a WH physician who did not believe he/she was seeing signs of a stroke or at least not sufficient signs to pull him off the stage. It is protocol for ALL Presidents to travel at all times with a physician member of the WH staff. Biden confirmed after the debate that he had seen a physician (presumed immediately after or during travel afterwards back to the WH)

Fiendish Thingy

(24,218 posts)
9. His campaign said he was recovering from a virus, and his cold medication made him a little "fuzzy". Nt
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:32 PM
8 hrs ago

CTyankee

(68,532 posts)
2. I don't believe she would make such an accusation lightly.
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:02 PM
8 hrs ago

At the time I thought President Biden had suffered a stroke, or a TIA, but I am not knowledgeable enough to know...

no_hypocrisy

(55,504 posts)
3. It wouldn't have been impossible for a Trump lackey to spike even Poland Spring water
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:13 PM
8 hrs ago

in the Biden quarters.

Boomerproud

(9,383 posts)
7. I remember the sketch on SNL about the Clinton-Trump debate not being far from the real thing.
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:23 PM
8 hrs ago

Creepy as hell. He was acting like a stalker and the mods did nothing.

Fiendish Thingy

(24,218 posts)
8. She's not an MD
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:30 PM
8 hrs ago

And I don’t see any connections between the 2016 debate and the 2024 debate.

Biden was drugged - he was recovering from a virus, and his campaign said at the time the cold medicine he’d been taking made him a little “fuzzy”.

But he had been observably “fuzzy” for months prior to that debate, at a Hollywood fundraiser, on the Seth Meyers show (even with softball questions from Meyers) and other events witnessed by numerous people.

This is Jill’s version of her experiences of the campaign.

It is not the only story to be told, nor the only truth.

Those with critical thinking skills not blunted by blind loyalty can believe their own eyes and ears.

Melon

(1,774 posts)
11. She should just not be speculating
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:39 PM
8 hrs ago

He’s the most heavily guarded man in the world with a doctor and sometimes multiple available at all times. It wasn’t a stroke or it would be caught immediately. He returned from an international trip 12 days before. It’s not jet lag. His awareness was being questioned leading up to the debate and his performance went far in confirming everything that was being said. Dragging this out now does nothing but further damage his legacy.

Pisces

(6,336 posts)
12. No, this is a rewriting of history. She did not take him to a hospital, she took him to a diner!! No, just quit
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:03 PM
7 hrs ago

talking, quit lying to us. This is making it worse. I am a Biden fan, hardcore dem but this is making me angry.

Mme. Defarge

(9,067 posts)
13. Pardon?
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:09 PM
7 hrs ago
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/05/jill-biden-stroke-debate-reaction/687339/

Jill Biden Worried Her Husband Was Drugged on Debate Night
In a new memoir, Jill Biden describes her own shock and fear over the president’s calamitous performance.
By Toluse Olorunnipa

Pisces

(6,336 posts)
14. If she was worried he was drugged or having a stroke she would have taken him for medical care not a
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:31 PM
7 hrs ago

diner afterwards. We do ourselves no favors by humoring her on this. Why are they even bringing this up right now when we need to be focused on the midterms!! We shouldn’t be relitigating the past!!


bamagal62

(4,572 posts)
15. I wouldn't put it past Trump
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:51 PM
7 hrs ago

To do something like that. I think they drugged him. It was just so odd for that not to be the case

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