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Graham Planter was a mistake: (Original Post) Chasstev365 2 hrs ago OP
There were many red flags but we chose to ignore them. Pisces 2 hrs ago #1
Not all of us. ananda 1 hr ago #41
Wow, at least 5 stories on this in the first 20. dem4decades 2 hrs ago #2
I didn't care for either candidate JBTaurus83 2 hrs ago #3
Agreed -misanthroptimist 1 hr ago #33
Jeez! surfered 2 hrs ago #4
The latest reported problem is only one of many. niyad 2 hrs ago #5
Ah yes, thanks Rawstory for providing, what is it? What exactly? mr715 2 hrs ago #6
NYT and WSJ. You could read about it. mcar 2 hrs ago #18
This message was self-deleted by its author mr715 2 hrs ago #19
Whatever. mcar 2 hrs ago #20
I went a little overboard. mr715 2 hrs ago #21
Multiple news outlets. Google it. surfered 1 hr ago #58
My reflex is to make fun of rawstory mr715 1 hr ago #61
I understand. In this case, it's not just Raw Story . It's everybody surfered 50 min ago #65
Im glad his wife and he did the work they needed to do to keep their marriage strong. Nanjeanne 2 hrs ago #7
For the record, as a Graham Platner skeptic mr715 2 hrs ago #8
And here's some more: mr715 2 hrs ago #9
but Raw Story! Cirsium 2 hrs ago #23
But Susan Collins! mr715 2 hrs ago #24
Here's another difference between Democrats and Republicans: Republicans wouldn't care. surfered 2 hrs ago #10
But the corporate media will make this an issue! Chasstev365 2 hrs ago #12
Just to be clear, I did not mean we shouldn't care. surfered 2 hrs ago #16
Sorry to butt in mr715 1 hr ago #43
It demonstrates poor judgement. Not only on moral grounds, but expecting so many instances of it not to eventually come surfered 1 hr ago #51
I mean, what the hell do we know? mr715 1 hr ago #54
😁🙏 surfered 1 hr ago #56
I don't know.. whathehell 1 hr ago #47
I know, too. We wanted so much to control the senate surfered 47 min ago #68
Bring back Governor Mils LetMyPeopleVote 2 hrs ago #11
She had her opportunity to do opposition research. mr715 2 hrs ago #13
Not being a Mainer, I don't know the story behind her not being the heir to this seat... Mark.b2 1 hr ago #52
Just makes me despise senator Collins even more!! aeromanKC 2 hrs ago #14
Who made this public, an aide working for Platner's campaign doing oppo research on their own candidate? sop 2 hrs ago #15
Many of us have been warning about him. nt mcar 2 hrs ago #17
The midterm results will be positive either way gulliver 2 hrs ago #22
We don't have that type of time JBTaurus83 2 hrs ago #25
If it gets too obvious he's going to lose... gulliver 1 hr ago #29
He's ahead by 9 points. mr715 1 hr ago #31
If something like that were to come out JBTaurus83 1 hr ago #40
No -- We only win the Senate with Graham Platner. mr715 2 hrs ago #26
Correct JBTaurus83 1 hr ago #27
If Graham Platner is losing in Maine mr715 1 hr ago #28
Let's see if there's unrecoverable damage gulliver 1 hr ago #32
To the reality of winning? mr715 1 hr ago #34
Could be worse SSJVegeta 1 hr ago #30
Bottom line, Trump has to be put in check. Too oasis 1 hr ago #35
Meh fujiyamasan 1 hr ago #36
again... B.See 1 hr ago #37
Another anti Planter post chelsea0011 1 hr ago #38
"We did the hard work that marriage requires...." mzmolly 1 hr ago #39
I need you to know MzMolly, I really like you and your opinions. mr715 1 hr ago #45
Don't count on Mills for having done any oppo research WSHazel 1 hr ago #42
Talarico and Platner should switch races. sop 1 hr ago #44
Switch wives. Make it a reality TV show. mr715 1 hr ago #46
I don't waste time on candidates who lie or hide facts to get nominated. delisen 1 hr ago #48
Ossoff is a dynamo mr715 1 hr ago #50
We shouldn't accept the claim that Platner was "sexting" anyone without seeing the texts. He's controversial... demmiblue 1 hr ago #49
You are accusing a Democrat of being a white nationalist. mr715 1 hr ago #53
It's humor and it's funny Quiet Em 1 hr ago #59
I guess mr715 59 min ago #62
No fan of Platner, but could he do a Bill Clinton 1992 primary talk karynnj 1 hr ago #55
Who cares about his sex life? mr715 1 hr ago #57
We don't know yet if voters in Maine care, this just came out karynnj 59 min ago #63
If you are comparing Clinton to Platner mr715 58 min ago #64
Do you remember the 1992 primaries? karynnj 50 min ago #66
I was pretty young. mr715 48 min ago #67
I hate to admit I was already 42. karynnj 40 min ago #69
So you are around my parents age... mr715 37 min ago #70
I liked Brown, Tsongus and Harkin karynnj 33 min ago #72
I prefer to leave Maine elections to voters in Maine. I would love to hear the thoughts of Mainers. walkingman 1 hr ago #60
I was always told to Vote Blue No Matter Who AZProgressive 36 min ago #71
But David Costello, a 65-year-old Brunswick Democrat Sewa 21 min ago #73
Why leak this now? Who benefits? AloeVera 16 min ago #74
Wait a sec... purity tests? mr715 12 min ago #76
Think of it as the Literal Purity Test. AloeVera 2 min ago #79
Well. That clinches it. I will never date or marry Graham Platner. Scrivener7 12 min ago #75
Why not? mr715 11 min ago #77
I wouldn't date or marry him before this came out. He's kind of a pig. But I'd vote for him if I lived in Maine. Scrivener7 9 min ago #78
Winner! AloeVera 59 sec ago #80

JBTaurus83

(1,720 posts)
3. I didn't care for either candidate
Sat May 30, 2026, 04:57 PM
2 hrs ago

But, I don’t give a shit about their personal life. We have a rapist as president, and a senator in Maine that supports rapists.

Response to mcar (Reply #18)

mr715

(4,285 posts)
61. My reflex is to make fun of rawstory
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:45 PM
1 hr ago

because they make money on doing what I end up having to do anyway.

In this case, apparently the wife is reporting proactively that text might be a problem in the future tense. And that they attended counseling and that their "marriage is stronger than ever".

Like, if I were prone to a certain sort of conspiratorial thinking (wink wink), I'd say there are no texts at all and he is a articulating perhaps the best media-driven narrative possible.

I'm partially joking. It sucks if he cheated on his wife. But I don't really care because neither his wife nor he are my friend. He is indicating he will take a hatchet to billionaires. I'd like that.

surfered

(14,519 posts)
65. I understand. In this case, it's not just Raw Story . It's everybody
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:55 PM
50 min ago

And it shows poor judgment on his part. That many different women and he didn’t think it would come out? As a candidate, his decision affect us. He was 7 points up on Collins before this news broke. I now expect the worst.

Nanjeanne

(6,662 posts)
7. Im glad his wife and he did the work they needed to do to keep their marriage strong.
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:02 PM
2 hrs ago

And unless his messages were with underage women or vulnerable women he was using some influence of power with — this is going to smack of desperation looking for a story.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
8. For the record, as a Graham Platner skeptic
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:03 PM
2 hrs ago

Anyone on this thread giving this oxygen is supporting Susan Collins.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
9. And here's some more:
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:08 PM
2 hrs ago

Why couldn't Governor Mills find this oppo with the full force of Schumer and Gillibrand?


The reason is because this is oppo from the Collins campaign and we, as Democrats should know better.


If he has sex tapes, I hope he and has wife enjoy them. I care not the least little bit about his personal life because he is saying the right mouth words and his opponent, Susan Collins, can't even form a sentence.

It is concerning that I am this concerned by this post.

I apologize for 3 direct replies to the same post.

surfered

(14,519 posts)
10. Here's another difference between Democrats and Republicans: Republicans wouldn't care.
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:09 PM
2 hrs ago

Including the “family values” voters.

Chasstev365

(8,206 posts)
12. But the corporate media will make this an issue!
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:15 PM
2 hrs ago

They let an adjudicated rapist off the hook, but mark my words, they will make this an issue to help Collins. The Nazi tattoo doesn't help either.

At the same, they will gloss over Ken Paxton's infidelity.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
43. Sorry to butt in
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:10 PM
1 hr ago

But we shouldn't care, either. Politicians are vehicles for policy and we shouldn't look to them for moral clarity. They are as a consequence of power, history, and law by nature compromised. As such, all our candidates are at best complex and at worst compromised.

Where it matter is the words they say and the deliverables they achieve. In this contest, it is between Graham Platner who is saying some seriously solid mouth words, and Susan Collins who is made of jello.

As a matter of political tactics, I think it is fascinating that his sex life is coming up, considering his opponent who I believed is the uncontested sexiest member of Congress.

surfered

(14,519 posts)
51. It demonstrates poor judgement. Not only on moral grounds, but expecting so many instances of it not to eventually come
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:26 PM
1 hr ago

Out. He ended up giving ammunition to his enemy. And we will end up being the worst for it…losing a seat in the Senate.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
54. I mean, what the hell do we know?
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:28 PM
1 hr ago

Maybe Maine voters what a candidate that has had sex in the last 30 years.

Mark.b2

(824 posts)
52. Not being a Mainer, I don't know the story behind her not being the heir to this seat...
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:26 PM
1 hr ago

I trust Maine Democrats have a reason.

sop

(19,486 posts)
15. Who made this public, an aide working for Platner's campaign doing oppo research on their own candidate?
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:19 PM
2 hrs ago

(Raw Story) "Platner's wife, Amy Gertner, told his Senate campaign about the texts with several different women, insider sources told the WSJ. Gertner discovered the texts in spring 2025, and in August, she told an aide whom she considered a friend, while the campaign was doing opposition research on Platner, the WSJ reported."

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
22. The midterm results will be positive either way
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:36 PM
2 hrs ago

We'll either make gains or we'll learn who to run (or not) in 2028.

JBTaurus83

(1,720 posts)
25. We don't have that type of time
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:43 PM
2 hrs ago

He’s the official nominee, so we need to make sure he wins in one of this nation’s most important elections. I see certain Democrats can be bashed here though while others cannot. I saw a Dem “strategist” go right on to Fox News and claim it would be fine for Susan Collins to win.

She should tell that to women all over the country who lost the rights to their own bodies. That is directly due to Susan Collins and Dump. It always amazes me that democrats will tear each other apart first, even when we have actual Nazis running the country.

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
29. If it gets too obvious he's going to lose...
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:50 PM
1 hr ago

...it would be his duty to the party to step aside and endorse a write-in for Mills, imo. I don't know if we're there yet. That would be a desperation move. I'm waiting for our elected leaders to weigh in, frankly.

JBTaurus83

(1,720 posts)
40. If something like that were to come out
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:06 PM
1 hr ago

I would fully agree. We need that seat. So far, he seems to be ahead of Collins.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
26. No -- We only win the Senate with Graham Platner.
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:44 PM
2 hrs ago

Don't pretend otherwise.

Don't equivocate.

THIS is the race that will be the harbinger of the night. So those among us that pearl clutch at his orgasmic practices are only helping Susan Collins and therefore control of the Senate.

Purity tests my somewhat-digusted-but-resigned-for-and-yet-enthustiatic-support of Graham Platner ass.

gulliver

(14,113 posts)
32. Let's see if there's unrecoverable damage
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:53 PM
1 hr ago

There's no rule that Dems can't react real time to reality.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
34. To the reality of winning?
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:56 PM
1 hr ago

He is ahead by 9 points.

Susan Collins looks like an undead muppet.

It seems to me that you are suggesting the Democratic party use the above information to seize defeat from the jaws of victory.


Graham Platner is beating Susan Collins. He is saying the correct mouth words. He is running a campaign strong enough to outperform national Democrats in a season when Democrats are already outperforming.

He is running a campaign so good that Susan Collins had to acknowledge her fucking tremor.

What are you talking about!?

SSJVegeta

(3,218 posts)
30. Could be worse
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:51 PM
1 hr ago

He could have voted to end abortion rights for millions of Americans and protected a belligerent president for years while helping forfeit the role of congress from oversight roles entirely.

fujiyamasan

(2,089 posts)
36. Meh
Sat May 30, 2026, 05:58 PM
1 hr ago

I wasn’t his biggest fan, but right now the only thing that matters is beating Collins.

There were issues with both candidates in my opinion. Going with Mills would have posed its own problems. She was a great candidate on paper, but I think there should have been alternatives to Platner, who was barely vetted, and Mills who is close to 80 years old. There’s also a lot of anti establishment vibes, and rightly or wrongly Mills is viewed as the establishment pick, especially since she was Schumer’s chosen candidate.

B.See

(8,916 posts)
37. again...
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:00 PM
1 hr ago

Lesser of two evils.

When he starts promoting cutting food and health aid for children worldwide,

kicking millions off of snap and Medicaid,

killing Black jobs and silencing minority representation via gerrymandering and voter suppression,

locking women and children up in concentration camps under some bullshit 'worst of the worst' LIE,

tanking the economy, killing off environmental and consumer protections,

sabotaging the function of government via the installation of A PUPPET AUTOCRACY,

ending birthright citizenship,

'taking over elections,

partnering with authoritarian dictators to engage in war (i.e. LAND GRABS),

WHILE pocketing BILLIONS of profit on the taxpayer's dime,

(and that's not nearly the HALF of it)...

then CALL me.

chelsea0011

(10,250 posts)
38. Another anti Planter post
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:04 PM
1 hr ago

I’m a Mainer and beating Susan Collins is all that matters. Platner is a multi tour veteran who came home and posted crap. So what? Collins supports Trump almost all the time. You choose.

mzmolly

(52,867 posts)
39. "We did the hard work that marriage requires...."
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:05 PM
1 hr ago
"We did the hard work that marriage requires. We went to counseling. We were honest with each other in ways that weren't easy," Gertner said in a statement provided to the WSJ by Platner's campaign. "Our marriage today is stronger than ever before."


Not my business, unless laws were broken. Doesn't sound like they were.

That said, he's not a Presidential candidate or I might think differently about his character and vulnerabilities. We're in the Trump era where pedophiles are being actively protected by the Republican Party. There is no comparison.

WSHazel

(855 posts)
42. Don't count on Mills for having done any oppo research
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:09 PM
1 hr ago

She didn't want to run for this seat, and was happy to drop out. Schumer basically guilted her into doing it, which was a huge mistake. She barely ran a campaign at all.

sop

(19,486 posts)
44. Talarico and Platner should switch races.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:11 PM
1 hr ago

Platner's online philandering would pale in comparison to Paxton's sleaze, and Talarico's christian beliefs would make Collins look downright immoral.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
46. Switch wives. Make it a reality TV show.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:12 PM
1 hr ago

I'm sorry, it is a bad and unfunny joke but it immediately popped into my head and I just felt compelled to pitch it.

delisen

(7,440 posts)
48. I don't waste time on candidates who lie or hide facts to get nominated.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:16 PM
1 hr ago

So I don’t worry about Senator Fetterman or a possible future Senator Platner.

I do not have big money resources but I do volunteer my time and my voice to persuade others to vote for Ossoff and candidates who share my values

I figure Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders can continue working for Platner and persuading Maine voters.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
50. Ossoff is a dynamo
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:24 PM
1 hr ago

I remember him debating the empty podium, and doing it in a compelling way.

He is another eventual President.

demmiblue

(39,986 posts)
49. We shouldn't accept the claim that Platner was "sexting" anyone without seeing the texts. He's controversial...
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:19 PM
1 hr ago
We shouldn’t accept the claim that Platner was “sexting” anyone without seeing the texts. He’s controversial, there are a lot of attempts to sink him, and it’s perfectly possible the texts were just innocent discussions of securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.

We shouldn’t accept the claim that Platner was “sexting” anyone without seeing the texts. He’s controversial, there are a lot of attempts to sink him, and it’s perfectly possible the texts were just innocent discussions of securing the existence of our people and a future for white children.

Illegal Aliens And Women Hat (@kenwhite.bsky.social) 2026-05-30T22:17:19.507Z

mr715

(4,285 posts)
53. You are accusing a Democrat of being a white nationalist.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:27 PM
1 hr ago

I am not alerting this post because I don't know if you posted this in error or not.

Quiet Em

(3,053 posts)
59. It's humor and it's funny
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:43 PM
1 hr ago

It's making fun of his most vocal defenders, white guys, who will say or do anything to defend him.

Like this one

Platner could’ve sexted my mom and I’d still vote for him

Secular Talk (@kylekulinskishow.bsky.social) 2026-05-30T20:57:38.424Z


I mean, .... way past ridiculous at this point

karynnj

(61,140 posts)
55. No fan of Platner, but could he do a Bill Clinton 1992 primary talk
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:33 PM
1 hr ago

like the 60 minutes where he spoke of causing pain in his marriage. I have not read enough to know what he said or did, but was it worse than Clinton and Flowers and Jones?

In some ways, there could be similarities. Like Hillary, his wife is standing behind him. Also they apparently worked to keep their marriage together. Also, the Republican is a generation older person who at that point was uninspiring.

Like others, I wish he would have been eliminated by all the things that already came out. However, the fact that he over that time became more popular, suggests he might in some ways be like Clinton. Clinton was able to make people forgive him.

The primary is June 9th, which seems to late to switch to anyone else. Mills might be the only option and it is not clear she could win the primary.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
57. Who cares about his sex life?
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:38 PM
1 hr ago

Donald Trump is President.

Jeffrey Epstein is on the ballot.

karynnj

(61,140 posts)
63. We don't know yet if voters in Maine care, this just came out
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:46 PM
59 min ago

As Platner seems to be charismatic and Maimers did not hold all the other stuff against him, I was suggesting that as he will likely be our candidate, that the Clinton example could work.

Not to mention, if Trump becomes sufficiently unpopular in Maine, it is possible ANY Democrat will win as they vote to try to keep Trump accountable.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
64. If you are comparing Clinton to Platner
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:47 PM
58 min ago

there is a lot of very interesting things to unpack, and I'd love to hear more.

karynnj

(61,140 posts)
66. Do you remember the 1992 primaries?
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:55 PM
50 min ago

Do you remember that Hillary and Bill Clinton went on 60 minutes because revelations of his relation with Gennifer Flowers were threatening his rise in the primaries. Hillary was incredible pointing out she was not just standing by her man.

I don't know how to compare the flaws or the good qualities of the two men. It is also true that culture of 1992 is not the culture of 2026. Not to mention that knowing nothing of his wife, Hillary was exceptional and likely pulled him out of this trouble.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
67. I was pretty young.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:58 PM
48 min ago

I was in 4th grade, so my political awareness was not very nuanced.

It did start my lifelong desire to see Sec. Clinton become President.

karynnj

(61,140 posts)
69. I hate to admit I was already 42.
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:06 PM
40 min ago

My oldest was a couple of years younger and was very proud that she pulled the lever when we went to vote.

mr715

(4,285 posts)
70. So you are around my parents age...
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:08 PM
37 min ago

My dad liked vacillated between Brown and Clinton but was a truly rapid Clinton lover. Particularly of his intelligence and rhetorical ability.

Bill Clinton is another very interest contrast with Barack Obama, who was equally intelligent and rhetorically masterful, but applied this differently.

karynnj

(61,140 posts)
72. I liked Brown, Tsongus and Harkin
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:12 PM
33 min ago

I was concerned about environmental issues as his Arkansas record was not good. I was impressed by both Clintons' intelligence.

I was blown away by Obama.

walkingman

(11,190 posts)
60. I prefer to leave Maine elections to voters in Maine. I would love to hear the thoughts of Mainers.
Sat May 30, 2026, 06:45 PM
1 hr ago

AZProgressive

(30,007 posts)
71. I was always told to Vote Blue No Matter Who
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:10 PM
36 min ago

Even if I wasn't a big fan I would still support the nominee even after my preferred candidate lost the primary.

As far as Platner he is great on policy but there are red flags in his background. I believe he has made mistakes he apologized for which is something that Trump would never do.

Sewa

(1,643 posts)
73. But David Costello, a 65-year-old Brunswick Democrat
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:24 PM
22 min ago

Long-shot Senate hopeful tells Maine Democrats Graham Platner isn’t their only option

But David Costello, a 65-year-old Brunswick Democrat who has experience in federal, state and local government, continues to make the case to voters ahead of the June 9 primary that he’s the best one to take on Republican Sen. Susan Collins in the fall.

https://www.pressherald.com/2026/05/21/longshot-senate-hopeful-tells-maine-democrats-graham-platner-isnt-their-only-option/

AloeVera

(4,451 posts)
74. Why leak this now? Who benefits?
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:30 PM
16 min ago

Fom the NYT article:

In a statement released by the campaign, [Platner's wife] Ms. Gertner suggested that she had been betrayed by Ms. McDonald, saying she was “deeply hurt” and bothered by “the invasion of our privacy.”

“I confided deeply personal details about my marriage to someone I considered a friend,” she said. “I trusted this person with the most private chapter of our lives — the early days of our marriage before any campaign was on our mind.”


Unlocked:
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/30/us/politics/graham-platner-maine-senate-texts.html?unlocked_article_code=1.mVA.N7oK.801gKbSUrwkY&smid=url-share

Are we falling into a trap here? Made too easy by a propensity to eat your own and the (apparently selective) donning of puritan robes in the ultimate "purity test".

I hope this desparate attempt to derail Platner fails. Makes me wonder though why exactly he seems such a threat to too many - on both sides.


mr715

(4,285 posts)
76. Wait a sec... purity tests?
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:34 PM
12 min ago

I thought those only worked one way.

(As a ludicrous rhetorical construction used to discredit people questioning the orthodoxy when the orthodoxy fulfill 2 conditions: being wrong AND losing elections)

AloeVera

(4,451 posts)
79. Think of it as the Literal Purity Test.
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:44 PM
2 min ago

Purity being derived from puritanical. As in a rigid insistence on moral purity.

Of course the Original Purity Test has stood the test of time and is not likely to be supplanted or replaced - not for a while at least. It's still so useful!

mr715

(4,285 posts)
77. Why not?
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:35 PM
11 min ago

As I crudely suggested in a post a deleted because of initial crudeness: no one's seen the tapes. Maybe it tickles the right buttons.

Scrivener7

(60,124 posts)
78. I wouldn't date or marry him before this came out. He's kind of a pig. But I'd vote for him if I lived in Maine.
Sat May 30, 2026, 07:36 PM
9 min ago

He's the one we got.

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