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MIButterfly

(3,359 posts)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:04 PM Jun 2

I have been reading different articles with Dr. Jill Biden's comments about President Biden online

She said he will live with cancer the rest of his life. I hope and pray with all my heart that he outlives DJT because I know DJT will be his usual crass, ugly self if President Biden predeceases him and will say nothing but nasty vile things about him and I don't think I could take it. President Biden is such a decent, kind, warm, caring human being, all the things that DJT is not, and I don't want his memory and legacy to be desecrated by the likes of that cretin in the White House who doesn't have a decent bone in his entire body.

I truly believe that President Biden had the interests of our country and its people at heart and did his absolute best for all of us, including people who didn't vote for him. Not like DJT who doesn't do anything for anybody except himself and expects to be worshiped every single second of the day and rails against anybody who disagrees with him and tries to waste our money on his stupid vanity projects.

How wonderful it was to have an actual adult for president and not a whiny little bitch. More than anything else in the world, I want another adult for president. An intelligent, knowledgeable, capable, level-headed, sane adult PLEASE! I don't think that's too much to ask.

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I have been reading different articles with Dr. Jill Biden's comments about President Biden online (Original Post) MIButterfly Jun 2 OP
Her interview on Morning Joe this morning was very good Raven123 Jun 2 #1
"When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldn't talk about him" MIButterfly Jun 2 #2
You mean the lingerie model? Joinfortmill Jun 2 #16
That's a nice way of putting it, but yes, that one MIButterfly Jun 2 #18
I wish Biden well but... tman Jun 2 #3
Why? obamanut2012 Jun 2 #4
The international travel was 12 days before the debate EdmondDantes_ Jun 2 #5
Decline and normal aging are two very different things crimycarny Jun 2 #29
No, I don't think he was. tman Jun 2 #9
I recall Obama's first debate with Romney. 70sEraVet Jun 2 #20
Oh yes, I remember that Obama/Romney debate PatSeg Jun 2 #22
the 'mental fog' and 'diminished figure' has been SO obviously oversold .... - - - - - - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Jun 2 #10
Yup. So you're sitting offstage and suddenly you think your husband is having a stroke. So you just continue to sit 3Hotdogs Jun 2 #21
disagree (no matter how many times it is repeated) stopdiggin Jun 2 #7
And the camera man didn't help. Let me tell you... Joinfortmill Jun 2 #17
I couldn't agree more MustLoveBeagles Jun 2 #19
I agree PatSeg Jun 2 #23
"But - if he had just bowed out sooner ... " Bullcrap !! . . - - - - - - - - - - (nt)- stopdiggin Jun 2 #26
Seriously PatSeg Jun 3 #36
Agree 100% crimycarny Jun 2 #32
I remember that a number of people understood why Biden would run again... CBHagman Jun 2 #33
She is saying he would have won if he had stayed in MichMan Jun 2 #8
I sitll think it's possible! LymphocyteLover Jun 2 #11
Joe Biden very possibly had a better shot than Kamala stopdiggin Jun 2 #13
Even a Biden at half-speed was still infinitely superior than Trump, as was Kamala. Tommy Carcetti Jun 2 #24
He said in 2'0 he'd probably be a 1 term president. We SHOULD have had a primary. Callie1979 Jun 2 #25
When he won the 2020 primaries, i knew we were in trouble in 2024. dem4decades Jun 2 #30
Not if he'd stuck with what he initially said. IMO anyway. Callie1979 Jun 3 #39
I agree, it would still have been a tough row to hoe. dem4decades Jun 3 #40
Oh, they're going to blame Biden till 1/29! Callie1979 Jun 3 #41
Joe delayed retirement to save us from Trump. Glad he stepped up.. Politics is ugly. Hindsight is easy. twodogsbarking Jun 2 #6
Indeed. And not often mentioned is that he was integral in getting Finland to join NATO Bongo Prophet Jun 3 #37
- Lemon Lyman Jun 2 #12
I didn't see any of it, but maybe Rita was still upset about losing Rob DFW Jun 3 #35
Thank you for a nice post! BidenRocks Jun 2 #14
I Second That! Joinfortmill Jun 2 #15
"But - if he had just bowed out sooner ... " Bullcrap !! . . - - - - - - - - - - (nt)- stopdiggin Jun 2 #27
I for the life of me kacekwl Jun 2 #28
Trump's performance was disqualifying.... MervinFerd Jun 2 #31
And people lost confidence in him because... Trueblue Texan Jun 3 #34
Exactly TT popsdenver Jun 3 #38

Raven123

(7,982 posts)
1. Her interview on Morning Joe this morning was very good
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:51 PM
Jun 2

Asked a lot of questions (some of which I thought were inappropriate), and answered gracefully. When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldn’t talk about him. Good for her. Never a fan of Lemire (who asked the questions). Less so now.

MIButterfly

(3,359 posts)
2. "When asked about Trump she simply said she wouldn't talk about him"
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 12:58 PM
Jun 2

Now that is a class act. I admire her for that. Ask me about Trump and you'd get an earful.

Not only do I miss President Biden, I miss having a classy and intelligent first lady too. Don't get me started on the plastic ice queen we have now.

tman

(1,260 posts)
3. I wish Biden well but...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:01 PM
Jun 2

His decision to run again, highly encouraged by Jill Biden herself, will be seen for what it was. A massive, historic mistake.

Her claim that Biden's disastrous debate performance was a surprise is... to put in mildly, ridiculous.

obamanut2012

(29,642 posts)
4. Why?
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:06 PM
Jun 2

"her claim that Biden's disastrous debate performance was a surprise is... to put in mildly, ridiculous."

He was fine before and after the incident. He's fine now. He was coming off an international trip and Covid.

EdmondDantes_

(2,231 posts)
5. The international travel was 12 days before the debate
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:32 PM
Jun 2

And his case of covid was after the debate.

The administration was generally not having Biden doing public events or interviews as president for a reason. There's no shame in decline and I have seen in my own family how hard it is to see and acknowledge it. But that doesn't change the fact he was declining.

crimycarny

(2,114 posts)
29. Decline and normal aging are two very different things
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:58 PM
Jun 2

He flew around the world twice in those 12 days before the debate, going to France for a D-Day event, coming back, then going to Italy for the G7 conference! And then back to LA for a fundraiser. If Joe Biden was so incapacitated that his staff was trying to hide him, why the h*ll would they risk his appearances at such high stakes events in such a short amount of time? It’s not like he was vacationing in those 12 days of international travel.

I saw Joe Biden at the G7 summit and D-Day event, and the super high stakes press conference after his bad debate. I challenge someone 1/2 of Joe Biden’s age to do so well under so much pressure.

tman

(1,260 posts)
9. No, I don't think he was.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:46 PM
Jun 2

There was pressure on Biden about his fitness to run before the debate, as reflected in his poor approval numbers for an incumbent going into an election and his head to head match-ups against trump.

..so Biden went into the debate (as the known underdog) with one key objective. Kill the narrative that he was 'mentally unfit' for the job. He failed disastrously, and his post debate clean-up interview may have been more damaging than the debate itself.

Up until he decided to run again, Biden could be seen as a good leader who brought the country back from the ruinous trump years. In his final year, he was a poor communicator who could obviously not stand the rigors of a presidential campaign. The debate was a preview of worse things to come, and most objective democratic pollsters believe he would've lost worse than Harris did.

Jake Tapper is a clown and we know media aren't fair, but the gaslighting from the Biden world should never be dismissed.

70sEraVet

(5,706 posts)
20. I recall Obama's first debate with Romney.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 06:25 PM
Jun 2

He was TERRIBLE! He made up for it in the next debate. We all have 'off' days. But Biden wasn't just debating trump -- he was debating with the American people to prove that he had it in him to serve another four years. So, in a sense, he lost TWO debates that night. And lost BADLY.
I have no doubt that Joe thought he was up to the job. I can't say what the people around him thought. I would STILL rather have Joe for President than the criminal we have now, even if Jake Tapper and the rest are right about his mental decline.
My ¢2.

stopdiggin

(15,752 posts)
10. the 'mental fog' and 'diminished figure' has been SO obviously oversold .... - - - - - - - -(nt)-
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:51 PM
Jun 2

3Hotdogs

(15,664 posts)
21. Yup. So you're sitting offstage and suddenly you think your husband is having a stroke. So you just continue to sit
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 06:50 PM
Jun 2

there ----- well maybe.

But then, after the debate, you don't tell the staff to get him to Walter Reed to make sure it wasn't a stroke....


Fuck me, but the 'splanation ain't splainin nuthin.

stopdiggin

(15,752 posts)
7. disagree (no matter how many times it is repeated)
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:40 PM
Jun 2

I have seen Joe Biden in public appearances since the 'disastrous debate' - and I think I (and the nation) could live well (and sleep quite soundly) with the level of acuity on display. Also - not at all convinced (or see sound evidence) that 'another candidate' would have had a better shot of beating Trump. The 'malaise' was baked in, and the electorate was in a 'crappy' mood. As evidenced ... And thirdly - and something that seems to be conveniently passed over or forgotten, by those otherwise accounted politically savvy - is the inherent power of incumbency. Something that no political institution (or player) has ever been happy to lightly p*ss away. Nor should! (have they any sort of political acumen)

The cancer diagnosis is of course another thing ... And, to my knowledge, did not play into ...

But the notion that Joe Biden was a shambling wreck - known to all - during the greater portion of his White House residency ... Belies what many of us saw. And I believe to be a convenient (and opportunistic?) re-write of the actual conditions. And I believe further - that Jill Biden (and many others) were legitimately surprised by the 'debate'.

My two cents. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Joinfortmill

(21,835 posts)
17. And the camera man didn't help. Let me tell you...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:57 PM
Jun 2

I'm 77. From the front view, I'm quite presentable. From the side view I look like the Wicked Witch of the East. So, there's that.

PatSeg

(53,822 posts)
23. I agree
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 07:36 PM
Jun 2

I hope I live to see Biden get the recognition that he deserves. He accomplished so much during his four years in the White House and all we hear is how frail and incompetent he was. That's certainly not what I witnessed.

Some of the legislation that he got passed with such small majorities was incredible and it was legislation that made a huge difference in the lives of so many people. And of course there was the handling of the pandemic.

PatSeg

(53,822 posts)
36. Seriously
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 10:18 AM
Jun 3

It is amazing that any good people stay in politics with the way they are treated by the media and sometimes even their own party. And a big shoutout to all the late night hosts/comedians who were relentless with the ageism jokes.

crimycarny

(2,114 posts)
32. Agree 100%
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:18 PM
Jun 2

Those 12 days of international travel before the debate weren’t exactly low profile, low pressure state dinners. He went to France for a D-Day ceremony, where he made an amazing speech. Flew back to US, then flew to Italy for the G7 summit, then back to LA for a fundraiser! If Joe was in such “decline” that his staff was trying to keep him out of the public eye, I find those events a very odd way to do so.

Joe Biden had to run under a media microscope with every single misspeak exaggerated way out of proportion (which, by the way, Joe Biden has done since he started as a Senator at 29), and his own party throwing him under the bus.

If the GOP could get a 34-time convicted felon, rapist, and inciter of January 6th elected, what does that say about the Democratic Party who can’t get an incumbent with one of the best legislative records since FDR re-elected?

CBHagman

(17,559 posts)
33. I remember that a number of people understood why Biden would run again...
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 10:50 PM
Jun 2

...and understood the reasoning behind it. There are so many factors that go into an administration and a presidential race, and here in the United States, we're in reelection season almost from Inauguration Day on.

On top of all that, President Biden came in at a time of crisis and was looking at a number of larger long-standing issues, such as poverty and cancer research.

stopdiggin

(15,752 posts)
13. Joe Biden very possibly had a better shot than Kamala
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:33 PM
Jun 2

would it have been enough ... ?
But the notion that Biden had so turned off - - or that 'another candidate' was going to so energize the party ...

Pfffft ! Yeah, right! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Tommy Carcetti

(44,599 posts)
24. Even a Biden at half-speed was still infinitely superior than Trump, as was Kamala.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 07:51 PM
Jun 2

There's no one to blame for Trump but the assholes who voted for him, and any idiots who sat 2024 out.

Callie1979

(1,459 posts)
25. He said in 2'0 he'd probably be a 1 term president. We SHOULD have had a primary.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:00 PM
Jun 2

He was my pick from day one in 2020's primary
But when he announced to run again I knew we were in trouble.

Callie1979

(1,459 posts)
39. Not if he'd stuck with what he initially said. IMO anyway.
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 01:30 PM
Jun 3

There wouldve been time for a primary & all that goes with it.

dem4decades

(14,543 posts)
40. I agree, it would still have been a tough row to hoe.
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 01:34 PM
Jun 3

The Americans people are idiots and couldn't understand inflation due to covid and the Ukraine war.

They just bought Trump's bullshit, I hope they're happy now.

twodogsbarking

(19,603 posts)
6. Joe delayed retirement to save us from Trump. Glad he stepped up.. Politics is ugly. Hindsight is easy.
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 01:36 PM
Jun 2

Lemon Lyman

(1,637 posts)
12. -
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:28 PM
Jun 2

I’m disgusted with the interviews of her over the past few days. Rita Braver on “CBS Sunday Morning” was awful to her. Braver spent most of the “interview” asking shitty questions about President Biden & Hunter. She kept doing the “A lot of people think” or “A lot of people have questions.” As has been said, the interviewers have been harder on her (she’s there to talk about her new book, mind you) than they have been in Shirley and all of his corruption.

Some media we have.

DFW

(60,632 posts)
35. I didn't see any of it, but maybe Rita was still upset about losing Rob
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 08:38 AM
Jun 3

Her husband, Rob Barnett, was a DC fixture of huge status. He died recently, and maybe Rita was still off-center due to that. Just speculating, but she never seemed so vindictive in the past.

BidenRocks

(3,595 posts)
14. Thank you for a nice post!
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 02:38 PM
Jun 2

Since I like Joe I will remind everyone about casting dispersions on him.
Under the rule about not relitigating past elections.
It's over!
I am tired of the negativity! Right Oddball?

kacekwl

(9,281 posts)
28. I for the life of me
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 08:26 PM
Jun 2

don't understand what exactly is the problem people have with President Biden. The I don't like Biden folks who never explain what the issue was. Life was pretty damn good during his presidency his vice presidency. What is it ?

MervinFerd

(2,125 posts)
31. Trump's performance was disqualifying....
Tue Jun 2, 2026, 09:12 PM
Jun 2

Two points:

1. Trump's performance was horrific. In a healthy media and political environment, he should have been rejected. He should never have been treated as a serious candidate after that.

2. A major problem for Biden was that many Democrats simply lost confidence in him. That was an emotional factor that could not be overcome with verbal assurances. His -physical- frailty made it difficult for him to regain trust.

Trueblue Texan

(4,684 posts)
34. And people lost confidence in him because...
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 08:03 AM
Jun 3

...the media TOLD them to! They should have expected hard times after TSF left office and left us with all the complications of a global pandemic, one that TSF allowed to run rampant in this nation. Biden didn't cause those problems, but he was very successful in addressing them, even though it took a while to see results of his policies. But people want instant soup. They don't want to go through the time and effort it takes to put things right again. They believe they are entitled to instantly gratifying results if a Democratic administration is in office--mostly because the media tells them they should expect such results and because they are irresponsible, spoiled, adolescent-minded Americans. Notice how TSF supporters are now parroting the talking points of a little bit of sacrifice now to make way for better times later? I guarantee you that rationale would not be going on if there was a Democratic administration in office. The media wouldn't allow that.

popsdenver

(2,737 posts)
38. Exactly TT
Wed Jun 3, 2026, 11:04 AM
Jun 3

The main stream media is 95+% owned/operated by Uber Rich Republicans and Republican Corporations.......with that kind of power and influence they can manipulate any and all to believing what they spew.......

Just look at what they did to John Kerrey with their "Swiftboating" Propaganda about a war hero.......

It should be noted that one of the first things Hitler did, was to take control of the German Media to distribute HIS Nazi Propoganda......

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