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It seems Platner may be lying about the Nazi tattoo. Take of this article what you will. My gut is telling me that if he wins the election, in a few years we may be reflecting back on the good old days with "concerned" Susan Collins. I certainly hope not but my spider sense says to beware of this guy.
"Some of the women also raised questions about his trustworthiness. Mr. Platners insistence that he did not know that his tattoo was a Nazi symbol until it became a campaign issue last fall was simply not true, Ms. Fifield said. After all, she said, he had taught her the word for it years earlier, referring to it as my Totenkopf."
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/04/us/politics/platner-maine-senate-girlfriends-relationships.html?unlocked_article_code=1.nlA.iyvb.cogFTy2xM4vN&smid=url-share
pat_k
(14,506 posts)More unsavory news regarding Graham Platner
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221282415
As Nanjeanne notes in that other thread:
He was a terrible boyfriend. And a bad husband who decided to work on that. He had anger issues. He drank too much. Stuff hes acknowledged.
...
As for me, he's gonna be the nominee in a few days. I will be pulling for him in the general. (I live in WA, so have no actual say, aside from contributing).
I have trouble imagining a skeleton big enough to make Susan Collins and lower chances of Dems winning the Senate a "better" option.
I could be wrong about him. He could win and implode in office somehow and end up resigning, but Susan Collins will be gone.
And, if he did implode, and Shah (or whoever gets the nod on the 9th) wins the governorship, we'd have a Dem appointed until a special election.
EdmondDantes_
(2,277 posts)There's a difference between being a terrible boyfriend and an abusive one. 3 women have independently said he's the latter.
niyad
(135,297 posts)mcar
(46,545 posts)During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held the door closed from the other side so she couldnt get out, telling her to remain there until she was calm. Eventually, Ms. Fifield said, she fell asleep and left the next morning.
It hurt, she said. But she added: It didnt cause an injury, it didnt break my arm.
Rhiannon12866
(261,046 posts)https://www.democraticunderground.com/132173536
RockCreek
(1,635 posts)There are three people on the Dem primary ballot.
I believe voters can rank 3 candidates.
He can be ranked 3rd.
LisaL
(48,016 posts)NT
yankee87
(2,888 posts)Give it a rest. He's the Democratic candidate for Senator. If he's good enough for Bernie, he's good enough for me. We have the Epstein cabal ruining the entire government. I won't see whether the government is ever fixed because of my age. Stop screwing around as the shop teacher in South Park says.
Tell the freaking NY Times to give it a rest not me.
LisaL
(48,016 posts)NT
niyad
(135,297 posts)Last edited Thu Jun 4, 2026, 10:22 PM - Edit history (1)
the June 9 primary.
MichMan
(17,618 posts)He is a very flawed candidate - and man. We're supposed to ignore this:
During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held the door closed from the other side so she couldnt get out, telling her to remain there until she was calm. Eventually, Ms. Fifield said, she fell asleep and left the next morning.
It hurt, she said. But she added: It didnt cause an injury, it didnt break my arm.
Why? Because Trump?
pat_k
(14,506 posts)I was always wary of Platner because he never ran for anything else and was running for U.S. Senator. As such, he was never vetted in the way a candidate recruited to run would have been.
But we are where we are.
And he is the presumptive nominee. And will likely be the nominee.
You can choose.
Is his a story of redemption and reform from a life in which he got a nazi tatoo and dealt with anger issues and alcohol abuse -- something that is a quintessentially American story.
Or is he someone you are so sure has not *really* reformed that you would vote for Collins, and thereby vote to keep control of the Senate in the hands of the Trumpublicans?
Are you so sure he is unredeemably screwed up that you would rather ensure the most dangerous man ever to have occupied the WH continued to be unchecked by a Trumpublican Senate than see him voted into the Senate?
Because THAT is the choice.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,365 posts)LisaL
(48,016 posts)Running for senate qualifies as redemption now?
pat_k
(14,506 posts)pcdb
(142 posts)What transformation are you talking about??
pat_k
(14,506 posts)As a couple, they say they did (and are doing) the work. That's enough for me.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/graham-platner-wife-amy-gertner-disclosed-extramarital-sexting-rcna347737
The "piling on" sure looks like what they did to Al Franken
New Yorker
The Case of Al Franken
Jane Mayer
July 22, 2019
For most members of the Senate who called for his head, that action was one they regret above all others.
https://web.archive.org/web/20190829044419/https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/07/29/the-case-of-al-franken
And X GOP operative Rick Wilson
Link to tweet
pat_k
(14,506 posts)I'd call the personal transformation he describes "redemption."
YMMV.
LisaL
(48,016 posts)So I don't count this as redemption.
Nixie
(18,266 posts)pat_k
(14,506 posts)If you don't live in ME, how would you vote if you did?
If you won't (or wouldn't) vote for Platner, I pose the question again:
Are you so sure he is irredeemably screwed up that you would rather ensure the most dangerous man ever to have occupied the WH continued to be unchecked by a Trumpublican Senate than see him voted into the Senate?
LisaL
(48,016 posts)Because I don't live there.
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,365 posts)pat_k
(14,506 posts)...sounds to me like he has "come through the other side."
This argument aside, if you had to choose, would you vote for Platner or Collins?
Or would you not vote (a default vote for Collins).
LisaL
(48,016 posts)I didn't realize that's how it worked.
pat_k
(14,506 posts)Now I have a couple questions for you.
Do you live in ME?
If so, do you plan to vote for Collins (or not vote, a default vote for Collins).
If you don't live in ME, how would you vote if you did?
If you won't (or wouldn't) vote for Platner, I pose the question from an earlier post again:
WhiskeyGrinder
(27,365 posts)needed to change, and then described the work he had done to make amends for the past and what he's doing for the future. I suppose people can expect different things when it comes to the concept of a transformation though
pat_k
(14,506 posts)And that was a person talking about a "dark time" or "dark period" that was presumably behind him.
Response to pat_k (Reply #25)
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niyad
(135,297 posts)One thing that pissed me off was hearing someone excuse his rape apologist posts as being a result of PTSD. In all my decades of counseling, and dealing with, PTSD vets, not one of them has ever said anything like that.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,956 posts)It's gross.
niyad
(135,297 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,825 posts)niyad
(135,297 posts)in general, seldom experience redemption.
YMMV
pat_k
(14,506 posts)And over the years I've seen some of those people get sober. That kind of transformation is not all that rare.
niyad
(135,297 posts)you did not mention the rape apologists.
pat_k
(14,506 posts)I have no idea what his condition was a decade ago when he posted the despicable comments. I have no idea what Reddit rabbit holes he had been traveling down.
One thing I KNOW is that people can radically change their view of the world on almost any dimension. Just look at David Brock. Look at people who have left violent extremist groups or cults and are helping others break free. There are countless examples. I don't have any X-rape apologist persons in mind, but transformation is absolutely possible.
Talking in generalities doesn't get far. What we have here is a person who is almost 100% guaranteed to be the Democratic nominee. And the choice of whether or not to support his candidacy.
Are you so sure he is so irredeemably screwed up that you would scuttle his candidacy and thereby vastly increase the possibility that the most dangerous man ever to have occupied the WH will continue to be unchecked by a Trumpublican Senate?
niyad
(135,297 posts)person.
pat_k
(14,506 posts)betsuni
(29,435 posts)Flawed candidate, flawed candidate, flawed candidate. I feel like repeating the words repeated over and over and over. Also, "baggage."
But guess who gets the benefit of the doubt! No mention of holding feet to the fire or earning one's vote or holding noses.
Jose Garcia
(3,567 posts)LisaL
(48,016 posts)NT
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,956 posts)Cha
(321,541 posts)Lamb. And, now I've read AOc has apologized to Lamb.
Mysterian
(6,732 posts)I bet you are too!
mcar
(46,545 posts)During one argument, she recalled, he twisted her arm behind her back, shoved her into a bedroom and held the door closed from the other side so she couldnt get out, telling her to remain there until she was calm. Eventually, Ms. Fifield said, she fell asleep and left the next morning.
It hurt, she said. But she added: It didnt cause an injury, it didnt break my arm.
ABC123Easy
(441 posts)I know you weren't asking me but how can anyone be okay with this?
mcar
(46,545 posts)ABC123Easy
(441 posts)mr715
(4,854 posts)Emile
(44,098 posts)niyad
(135,297 posts)Emile
(44,098 posts)niyad
(135,297 posts)I know what my gut is telling me about a great many things in many areas these days. It has been known to be wrong on rare occasions, though.
Emile
(44,098 posts)smearing him.
niyad
(135,297 posts)for a group rather than just themselves?
Emile
(44,098 posts)smearing him!
Nixie
(18,266 posts)out of the actual subject matter just say centrist. There is not an answer to your questions other than centrist.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,956 posts)You know, his quintessentially American redemption story?
Emile
(44,098 posts)Nanjeanne
(6,825 posts)acknowledged after three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan he had big anger issues and alcohol problems and had a sexist bravado that was very unbecoming. Hes spoken many times about that openly. So no,of course they arent lying about that dark period.
ABC123Easy
(441 posts)That anyone with a Nazi tattoo won't get my vote, no matter what the reason.
Emile
(44,098 posts)He probably wouldn't want your vote anyways.
ABC123Easy
(441 posts)That you're definitely not worth replying to any longer.
Emile
(44,098 posts)ABC123Easy
(441 posts)Buffering.......buffering
Emile
(44,098 posts)I enjoy the thought of your buffering issues!
Emile
(44,098 posts)Glad I could help.
Tis a glorious day, indeed!
Nanjeanne
(6,825 posts)Lyndsey had a volatile relationship but mutual friend did say the behavior Lyndsey described seemed out of character for Platner.
Heavily drinking individuals are known for their good character.
Cheers!
Wifes husband
(783 posts)Democrats need have a higher standard than this. I don't want to lower my standards this low.
questionseverything
(12,217 posts)gulliver
(14,160 posts)As I've said many times, the very best people don't want to work for people who will turn on them, who hound them, who dox or threaten them. Amazing no one seems to get that. We all think we're in a buyer's market. No, we are not.
The people, I hate to say it, need to be accountable. Polite. Patriotic. Reasonable.
Passion is worthless.
MineralMan
(152,036 posts)You're amping up the attacks on a Democratic candidate who is trying to replace her.
How else should I read your post?
This is getting really annoying.
JCMach1
(29,265 posts)Shrill, sell-out that is Susan Collins.
The measured attacks against Dems and against progressives are getting more than annoying.