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senseandsensibility

(25,766 posts)
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:11 PM 2 hrs ago

NYT headline when Biden added jobs vs. NYT headline when trump adds less jobs

Some things speak for themselves. When Bien added 266,000 jobs this was the headline: Job growth slowed in April, Muddling Expectations

And today when trump added 172,000 their headline: 172,000 Jobs Added in May As U.S.
Labor Market Upswing Continues

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NYT headline when Biden added jobs vs. NYT headline when trump adds less jobs (Original Post) senseandsensibility 2 hrs ago OP
Democrats are always told they suck at messaging, CivicGrief 2 hrs ago #1
It should be common knowledge among 90% of Americans Johnny2X2X 2 hrs ago #5
That's the bottom line senseandsensibility 1 hr ago #7
Corporatists desperately want... GiqueCee 1 hr ago #8
I would love to see Dems on the news BaronChocula 46 min ago #10
Excellent idea and example comebacks. Why do I think those won't show up on the broadcasts? erronis 2 min ago #18
April 2021 mahatmakanejeeves 2 hrs ago #2
Headlines matter. CivicGrief 2 hrs ago #3
Many people read only headlines senseandsensibility 2 hrs ago #4
Many people don't even read headlines. maxsolomon 37 min ago #12
And many people don't listen to a word trump says senseandsensibility 29 min ago #13
I'm thinking of Driftglass and Bluegal... regnaD kciN 2 hrs ago #6
Save the NYT for your birdcage liner because it isn't worth much more. littlemissmartypants 1 hr ago #9
I agree ms.pamela 40 min ago #11
Congratulations on making your one hundred post ! KS Toronado 6 min ago #16
Don't they shout from the hills about the liberal media?? NHvet 18 min ago #14
MAGAts accuse everybody but FQX noise of being Liberal Media. KS Toronado 2 min ago #17
Every month it was "Is there going to be a recession" doc03 18 min ago #15

CivicGrief

(314 posts)
1. Democrats are always told they suck at messaging,
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:18 PM
2 hrs ago

when the truth is the MSM twists itself into a pretzel to expound Republican talking points. You might say they “muddle” the facts.

Johnny2X2X

(24,485 posts)
5. It should be common knowledge among 90% of Americans
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:44 PM
2 hrs ago

It should be common knowledge among 90% of Americans that the economy just flat out does better under Democratic leadership than Republican.

senseandsensibility

(25,766 posts)
7. That's the bottom line
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 03:25 PM
1 hr ago

And you will never see that reflected in any corporate media "narrative" about Dems. I think we know why.

GiqueCee

(4,909 posts)
8. Corporatists desperately want...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 03:37 PM
1 hr ago

... to institute Feudalism 2.0, and doing anything that benefits we, The Great Unwashed, is anathema to them. They commonly refer to us as their "Human Capital", because we're all just livestock to them.
Democrats need a course correction, and that means shitcanning "being nice to our colleagues across the aisle", and instead, taking the fight right to them. After what they've done to the country, they deserve no forgiveness or mercy, and they will get none. You can damn sure betcha they wouldn't give you any.
I will keep pounding this home: Trump is a traitor, and anyone who supports a traitor IS a traitor.

BaronChocula

(4,853 posts)
10. I would love to see Dems on the news
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:22 PM
46 min ago

"shatter traditions" and go after interviewers for their hypocrisy.

- "I'm assuming you've asked the same question again and again to republicans given the disarray they're in, Katie."
- "I guess you must have been somewhere else when the Biden administration passed landmark legislation. Or are you picking sides?"
- "I'm not here to talk about drama -- I'm here to talk about extreme corruption while Americans can't pay for groceries."

Media folks can be cowed. Goppers do it well.

erronis

(24,671 posts)
18. Excellent idea and example comebacks. Why do I think those won't show up on the broadcasts?
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 05:06 PM
2 min ago

mahatmakanejeeves

(71,145 posts)
2. April 2021
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:26 PM
2 hrs ago
Job Growth Slowed in April, Muddling Expectations

The increase of 266,000 fell far short of estimates, though strong economic growth is still forecast for the months ahead.


Home Chef, a meal-kit delivery service, has been snapping up employees at a rapid pace. Despite an underwhelming April jobs report, economists still predict a labor market recovery this year. Jenna Schoenefeld for The New York Times

By Patricia Cohen
May 7, 2021

The American jobs machine tottered last month, confounding optimistic forecasts of the labor market’s recovery and sharpening debates over the impact of federal pandemic-related jobless benefits on the nation’s work force.

Employers added 266,000 jobs in April, the government reported Friday, far below the gains registered in March. The jobless rate rose slightly, to 6.1 percent, as the labor force grew faster than the number of jobs.

The unemployment rate rose for the first time since April 2020.
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The share of people who have looked for work in the past four weeks or are temporarily laid off, which does not capture everyone who is out of work because of the pandemic ...

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senseandsensibility

(25,766 posts)
4. Many people read only headlines
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:41 PM
2 hrs ago

When I was a student journalist in college writing headlines for the college paper they had to be signed off on by a colleague and an editor. They received just as much scrutiny as the article itself. The purpose of the headline is to summarize the article as a whole. If a headline editorializes and then that is corrected in the article, the headline is not accurate.

senseandsensibility

(25,766 posts)
13. And many people don't listen to a word trump says
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:39 PM
29 min ago

Does that mean we can't comment on anything he says? Obviously, as long as the NYT is publishing news stories, they are practicing journalism and are fair game for criticism from people who care about the practice. Declining subscriptions do not absolve them.

regnaD kciN

(27,722 posts)
6. I'm thinking of Driftglass and Bluegal...
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 02:48 PM
2 hrs ago

…who always make a point of referring to it as “the New York Fucking Times.” Maybe it should be the NYFT going forward.

NHvet

(315 posts)
14. Don't they shout from the hills about the liberal media??
Fri Jun 5, 2026, 04:50 PM
18 min ago

Where is this liberal media they speak of?

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