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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe overwhelming National debt is on purpose.
The waste is deliberate. He and the billionaire class are leaving America in a hole so deep and the Government so broken that it will be beyond repair. They want just enough for the defense budget and no more.
They want the chaos to be overpowering.
Social Security, broken.
Medicare, broken.
Veterans Affair, broken.
Affordable Care Act, broken.
Public education, broken.
Regulatory Agencies, broken.
Social Welfare programs, broken.
Congress will have nothing left to work with. This destruction is systemic and purposeful. And, we all know the Felon is too stupid to have come up with this on his own. This was the purpose of Project 2025. They allowed him to rob us, to entertain himself with destruction of gov't. property, to satiate his ego all while breaking our system. The billionaire class is largely responsible and must be held accountable.
in2herbs
(4,630 posts)plan will fail.
Intractable
(2,501 posts)Hence the big push for data centers to run the AIs that will replace us useless eaters.
littlemissmartypants
(35,011 posts)Employees are being terminated, but AI isn't necessarily replacing them. It's more VC smoke and mirrors. Profit taking and cannibalism can only be successful for a brief window in time.
The people really do have the power. The question is, will they use it?
...most companies blaming AI for layoffs havent actually deployed AI capable of replacing the workers they let go. Not even close.
https://medium.com/@avigoldfinger/55-of-ceos-who-fired-people-because-of-ai-already-regret-it-d54487e3cbe3
It's just a pretext. It's been referred to as AI washing. The Harvard Business Review is one institution that did a study on this among others.
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Intractable
(2,501 posts)Says it right in the article.
>> 60% had already reduced headcount in anticipation of AIs future impact.
AI washing? So, the VC are playing financial games and blaming it on AI.
But, it's still layoffs because of AI, or AI concepts, or AI potential, or using AI as an excuse.
They are still building data centers at an exponential rate. So, more AI in the future. More AI due to billionaires. More people fired.
My post stands, as written, without your correction.
littlemissmartypants
(35,011 posts)I was just trying to expand on your point. Slow down and take a breath.
Good grief.
CBHagman
(17,559 posts)And hatred of AI and objection to data centers extend across political lines.
The future is not here yet, which is why we are compelled to act now.
Intractable
(2,501 posts)There are, and they have plenty of competing customers and workers on whom to be parasites for quite some time until it all collapses.
JT45242
(4,197 posts)AI does not work well. And when it has to actually pay its overhead, it will collapse under the cost of electricity and water
Mme. Defarge
(9,092 posts)fewer consumers.
bucolic_frolic
(56,144 posts)Repeal TTT and BBB and the debt will shrink.
lame54
(40,260 posts)Cheezoholic
(4,024 posts)erronis
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and then grab their asse(t)s.
Same as putin did in his rump USSR.
People talk about capitalism vs. socialism vs. communism. But this is just pure personal greed. No 'isms' needed.
Edited: from "till their dry". Why do I only catch these things the next day?
rampartd
(5,313 posts)one need not be a commie to oppose this extreme deregulated monopolistic form of capitalism.
popsdenver
(2,732 posts)are the corporations being run by the Oligarchs........
Coming soon, the renaming of our country to: The United Corporations of America, run by a bunch of FASCISTS.....
We are almost there folks..............
rampartd
(5,313 posts)but there will be no competition. no negotiation. no refusal of offers.
just like back in queens.
ms liberty
(11,430 posts)And labeling it a dire national emergency created by Democrats that must be dealt with immediately. Three guesses where the cuts would be..
Auggie
(33,342 posts)JMCKUSICK
(6,754 posts)Moostache
(11,322 posts)The problem right now is that American billionaires actually believe their shit does not stink and they the fortunes they command are actually 100% due to their inherent greatness (not luck, circumstances, abuse of power and greed to name a few).
Tax the billionaires out of existence. The debt is a marge portion of the profits they have scammed from the overall economy anyway.
questionseverything
(12,147 posts)They have enjoyed their money and life and their kids have already had every possible advantage but
I dont think the government should take more than half
No hiding money in corporations that never die, if corporations have rights like people they need to die like people
Like at 120 years old, liquidate half, pay the death tax and move on
Im not saying no taxes before death just the highest after death, the dead dude isnt going to miss it!!
Just Jerome
(588 posts)must be derailed. Only profound courage from the Democratic leadership can accomplish that.
LymphocyteLover
(10,297 posts)1WorldHope
(2,197 posts)So long, farewell... We do not need billionaires in this country. We are the workers, the growers, the teachers, the doctors and the nurses. Fuck them all, we can start the fuck back over and this time justice and equality will be across the freaking board.
Sorry, I recently shared a carafe of margaritas with my friend.
Wednesdays
(23,319 posts)Not unless you don't want to share.
BlueTsunami2018
(5,114 posts)Extracting every last bit of wealth from the working class as possible and stealing all the tax money so no services can be provided. All the money goes to the same place, into the pockets of the owners.
Except for a short lull in the late 30s, the 40s and the 50s when the white working class was given little bit of power in exchange for not having a full on proletarian revolution, this is the way its always been.
Its never going to get any better until we force it to get better. And I just dont know if the American People have it in them anymore.
Seinan Sensei
(1,686 posts)wnylib
(26,673 posts)It's what happens when government is run like a business.
Whip-poor-will
(566 posts)He seconds your motion
questionseverything
(12,147 posts)IronLionZion
(51,633 posts)FakeNoose
(42,771 posts)They are throwing their votes away while Chump ruins it for all of us.
Moostache
(11,322 posts)Their loyalty is disgusting, their aversion to the truth is marrow deep and they honestly are a lost cause. There is a significant percentage of them that are literally as dumb as a rock, but their personal identity and self-worth is tied up in being on the "winning team" and they have swallowed the hook, line and sinker on Trump's Bullshit claims and propaganda backstory.
The single dumbest human being to achieve such power in a millennia has accelerated the decline start all the way back in the late-70's response to Watergate and the installation of Ronnie Raygun to be our first pretend President (followed later by Shrub and Two Scoops). This really dates all the way back to the right-wing revulsion at the New Deal and FDR's decisions and policies. Now, a century later, they have successfully dragged the country to the edge of oblivion behind a madman just sick enough to shove us over the edge for kicks... well and truly fucked is an apt description indeed.
bluestarone
(22,499 posts)THAT'S their plan. All of our saviors have been fired. Religious right are their accomplices!
ImNotGod
(1,288 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(2,962 posts)Whereas, project 2025 is a specific strategy that is working to break the whole system as long as Congress does nothing. The two Santa strategy was meant to make Democrats look bad so the voters would favor Republicans. There is no two Santa Strategy in play here. It's just total destruction and no gifts to the common voter. Only the billionaire class is winning.
Journeyman
(15,494 posts)is to preserve the social order.
Ponietz
(4,515 posts)Jack Valentino
(5,322 posts)and prevent the Democrats from creating any new ones, when we eventually retake power....
and all these new 'work requirements' for SNAP and MEDICAID are ALSO part of the plan
to destroy these programs,
because they are going to costs the states FAR too much in new administrative costs
which will be the burden of the individual states---
(probably costing the states more money than is "saved" at the Federal level---)
and that burden on the poorer rural "red states" is likely to result in many of them
abandoning participation in SNAP and MEDICAID ENTIRELY, in my humble opinion!
Some of those states will probably have no choice about that at all, in budgetary terms!....
Welcome to REPUBLICAN CLASS WARFARE!
If the Republicans cut off your food, I recommend eating Republican politicians!---
"the secret is in the sauce" !
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: or not ??
RT Atlanta
(2,845 posts)Our country spends more on 'defense' than the next several larger economic countries in the world put together.
debsy
(1,069 posts)I am so tired of people saying they are all idiots and dont know what they are doing. The truth is they are f***ing assholes and know exactly what they are doing. And I fear we arent going to be able to fix the wreckage.
Blue Full Moon
(3,731 posts)The rot is the billionaires and the politicians on the take from them are creating this or allowing it to happen. There were articles before the presidential election about this very thing and installing scam crypto currency.
ChicagoTeamster
(1,357 posts)country call it treason and financial terrorism. Seize all assets of every Trump family member. Go after Epstein's estate assets. Go after the assets of every family that descended from slave owners.
rampartd
(5,313 posts)demonetize the dollar. total reset. call the new currency "peso" and put trump all over it.
i might lose a few grand, widows and orphans lose nothing, but musk's trillion? just his monopoly winnings, let him pile them up and climb to mars.
enid602
(9,773 posts)As the dollar collapses as a result of Trumps Mid-East policy, stocks and bonds will plunge. Real Estate will lose value as well, enabling billionaires and institutional investors to gobble up all houses, commercial, factories etc. Theyre the only ones who will be liquid.
Remember, Trumps tax legislation of 2017 largely got rid of inheritance taxes, so the super-wealthy are positioned to acquire wealth and keep it. The coming hyper inflation is a godsend for the rich.
Martin Eden
(15,960 posts)Republicans have been trying to do that for decades.
They pretend to be "fiscal conservatives" even though deficits soar when they're in charge. It's tempting to think they're too stupid to understand the effect of their own policies, but the fact is they NEED huge budget deficits to advance the argument that "entitlement" programs are no longer affordable.
rampartd
(5,313 posts)the deal is that the working class, democrats, can appropriate money to widows and orphans as long as repubs get to send that money to their big donors first..
"don't worry, that's how we prevent fraud and the money all trickles down anyway."
Dan
(5,323 posts)What is the end goal - when all the wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few and there is nothing left for the working stiffs, what then.
When the middle-class is left with nothing but the illusion of having been middle-class, what then.
I also think that the point of all the polarization that is being promoted is to frame the narrative of social unrest to justify a police state.
The powers that be have already impacted a lot of people that depended on SNAP benefits - maybe to get us used to seeing people starving and homeless.
College is increasingly out of reach for the working and middle-class; so education for the rich and entitled or athletically inclined.
As someone pointed out, the GOP is currently robbing us blind and the bill will fall at the feet of the Democrats.
I am glad that I am old...just waiting for the prostate to take me out.
summer_in_TX
(4,343 posts)cuts to certain mandatory programs if the rule is violated that so there's an increase it projected deficits.
Exemptions include Social Security, veterans' benefits, and low-income programs like Medicaid and SNAP.
WestMichRad
(3,458 posts)And when Dems inevitably return to power someday, theyll scream bloody murder about the federal budget deficit.
Botany
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1) To get rid of the dollar and replace it with crypto in order to make Peter Thiel happy and to
pay him back for rat fucking the 2016 and 2024 elections and the 2022 and 2024 Ohio senate
elections.
b) Because that is what Vlad Putin goal.
iii) A fascist take over of America. See project 2025.
Akakoji
(594 posts)To do nothing but create a very large center of concentration camps that will be used to incarcerate American citizens and political dissenters when the legal immigrants are all rounded up? Ice is a paramilitary arm of the Republican Party. They work for the massive prison system that the American people have been convinced is needed to protect them against criminals. Thats what rarely happens though. We must make every Republican pay for their lack of ethics, morals, and their lying to steal our taxpayer dollars. It still boggles my mind we dont have a Democratic candidate running in every race around the country. We constantly underestimate the rage and the pain that people are feeling in areas we allow to be designated red or purple or blue.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(15,264 posts)dave99
(353 posts)relogic
(299 posts)will start to penetrate even the rugged facia armor of the we the low-poverty clientele-once Soc S is successfully depleted to dregs of promised cookie crumbs swirling on the bottom of Lardos rotting barrel. The rallying cry of the inherent cruelty of repukes, maga, predatory capitalists and low brows has always been Burn it down.
Of all the infinite predictables in this insane era of orange beast worship is the certainty of the designed spite-inflected hardship for the derived pleasure of these ravenous wolves.
themaguffin
(5,459 posts)Figarosmom
(14,170 posts)It makes for a compliant, downridden work force who are just grateful for any job. It also forces Democrats to raise taxes.
Quanto Magnus
(1,399 posts)run up the debt while in power, whine and cry about the debt when not in power and to stymy any progressive legislation. If the Democrats have to fix the mess the Guardians of Pedophiles created, they will not have the time or resources to pass legislation they were elected to pass.
Rinse
Repeat
Trump is just taking this philosophy to it's more ridiculous extreme.
SergeStorms
(20,942 posts)The Heritage Foundation is now steering the course for our country, AND I'M EXTREMELY PISSED-OFF BECAUSE OF IT!
BurnDoubt
(1,925 posts)The Heritage Foundation needs to be exposed, and publicly named, and their interests and connections analyzed and divulged. This is a secretive cabal that has insinuated itself into the very fabric of our government, you know, the Deep State. And they are REAL, and Evil.
Its astonishing that they havent been investigated by SOMEONE.