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surfered

(15,034 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 09:37 AM Friday

If the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran is dependent upon Israel ceasing attacks in Lebanon, then it's now unlikely.

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“For every tear of an Israeli mother, a thousand Lebanese mothers must weep. All of Lebanon must burn!” wrote Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir Friday in a statement published on social media according to an automatic English translation of the Hebrew-language statement.

Update: US Iran talks in Switzerland now postponed due to fighting in Lebanon.

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If the ceasefire between the U.S. and Iran is dependent upon Israel ceasing attacks in Lebanon, then it's now unlikely. (Original Post) surfered Friday OP
If one Israeli is worth a thousand Lebanese, I wonder what the conversion rate is for Palestinians? sop Friday #1
By the Bye gab13by13 Friday #2
It could signal that the world's economy is slowing karynnj Friday #5
Trump held bi-laterial negotiations for a 4 party war Johnny2X2X Friday #3
We need to go with this in a more humane manner. tirebiter Friday #4

sop

(19,844 posts)
1. If one Israeli is worth a thousand Lebanese, I wonder what the conversion rate is for Palestinians?
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 09:48 AM
Friday

gab13by13

(33,062 posts)
2. By the Bye
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 09:55 AM
Friday

Hormuz is closed, reports of ships being fired upon.

But crude is below $80/barrel, what a joke.

karynnj

(61,218 posts)
5. It could signal that the world's economy is slowing
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 10:07 AM
Friday

or that other parts of the world have succeeded in increasing their output. The former lowers demand, the latter increases supply. If part of it reflects expectation that crude price will come down, that will quickly change

The interesting geopolitical question would be if this will lead the US to withhold weapons from Israel or even back UN sanctions if they are proposed by another country - something we have never done.

Johnny2X2X

(24,590 posts)
3. Trump held bi-laterial negotiations for a 4 party war
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 10:01 AM
Friday

He winged it because he thought he could convince Israel after the fact.

Israel wants war, they think their position is strengthened by more attacks on Lebanon. And they want the US to continue bombing Iran. This is going to drive a wedge between the US and Israel now and it could be very contentious.

tirebiter

(2,705 posts)
4. We need to go with this in a more humane manner.
Fri Jun 19, 2026, 10:02 AM
Friday

Why can’t we just extend not killing to be a universal end in itself?

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