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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsi don't think Jeffries understands the new reality. Mamdani doesn't need the party. the party needs him.
i donât think Jeffries understands the new reality. Mamdani doesnât need the party. the party needs him.
— shauna (@goldengateblond.bsky.social) 2026-06-24T21:34:31.430Z
Scubamatt
(331 posts)want the party to tack left instead of just being a ratchet for increasingly rightwing shifts by the crazy Republicans, Leader Jeffries and other establishment should listen to them. When poll after poll consistently shows that the majority of Americans align with traditional Democratic policies, maybe . . . just maybe . . . . Democratic leaders should listen to that and actually try appealing to their base instead of running away from it to some ill defined mushy middle.
flashman13
(2,635 posts)The base of the Democratic party is telling you, in the loudest terms possible, that the old normal, as embodied by you, Schumer and the party "leadership" is over. The blue tsunami is not coming just for the MAGAts.
Get out of the way. There is a new generation of Democrats ready to take power.
mr715
(4,854 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)Party politics is a symbiotic relationship.
Cha
(321,544 posts)that this is about the Midterms. We need all hands on deck... Not some inter-party fighting.
And, I'm really disappointed Congress lost Rep Dan Goldman, who is a brilliant contributor to our Democracy.
MineralMan
(152,036 posts)as representing the country. It doesn't even come close. And Mamdani only endorsed candidates in three districts.
Trust me on this.
choie
(7,112 posts)If only NYC Democrats don't represent the country, we might not be in the shitstorm we're in today.
D00ver66
(35 posts)Think hes good at what hes doing.
Blasphemer
(3,635 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)is eye opening. 😉
Redleg
(7,055 posts)I think some of Mamdani's ideas can transfer across a wide range and I appreciate Mandani's political skills. I also believe that each district may have unique needs and thus needs Democratic candidates who can effectively address those needs..
intheflow
(30,305 posts)If Democratic leadership wants to keep losing, keep pushing away the DSA wing of the party and become irrelevant. Otherwise, expect them to start running with their own platform which will be promoted by many in the new media sphere to the voters hungry for change.
choie
(7,112 posts)they're "commies"!
Blasphemer
(3,635 posts)demmiblue
(40,075 posts)https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/im-done-im-not-in-that-fcking-political-party-james-carville-freaks-out-after-progressives-win-big-in-democratic-primaries/
senseandsensibility
(26,018 posts)in say, Georgia, or other swing states, though? I don't believe in absolutes. He had a good night in NYC. I have nothing against him. But hailing him as the leader of all Dems as we head into Nov. does not seem wise.
mr715
(4,854 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2026, 07:19 PM - Edit history (1)
He is energetic and engaging. He doesn't seem corrupt. He doesn't seem defeated.
You're correct he isn't (yet) a central power broker in the party, but I think it is fairly clear his star is ascendent - and it would by wise to learn from his successes.
Mamdani is a leader of new generation, progressive social media forward democrats. Just a leader. Not the leader.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)And would probably adopt more moderate policies and message.
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Scrivener7
(60,358 posts)I am shocked at the changes he is making for the better in a short time. I hope he changes his mind.
mr715
(4,854 posts)don't believe them.
That he makes it believable is his superpower.
His options, however, are somewhat limited. He can't be President, but I'd take him as a Senator.
He is remarkable in that he set an agenda and rapidly delivered on it. Additionally, behind his charisma, he has demonstrated a savviness / shrewdness in his movements within the party.
As you know, NY Mayors always run for higher office. They don't often win. Ever.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)have gone on to higher office?
Can't think of one in the last 50 years. But Mamdani could be the exception.
mr715
(4,854 posts)But Bloomberg did and Giuliani did and De Blasio did... I don't think Koch did, but that was for a very specific reason.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)How many won?
mr715
(4,854 posts)Otherwise no one. NY mayors have big ambitions and little evidence of electability.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)mr715
(4,854 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)BeyondGeography
(41,236 posts)Jeffries thought about running for mayor when he was starting out in public life. When he was told that a NYC Mayor had never gone on to a higher elected office he quickly lost interest.
LAS14
(15,582 posts)... is senator or governor?
mr715
(4,854 posts)Governor of NY is more powerful. There are only 50 governors, and NY is one of the more important states.
dem4decades
(14,656 posts)Quiet Em
(3,234 posts)and he believes these candidates will help with that.
dem4decades
(14,656 posts)Quiet Em
(3,234 posts)I have tremendous respect for Rep. Goldman and I have a lot of respect for Lander as well.
I'm saying that Mamdani endorsed candidates that he, Mamdani, found helpful for his ambitions and goals for NYC.
fujiyamasan
(2,181 posts)So he unless its an unelected cabinet position, the Senate is as far as he can go.
Cosmocat
(15,519 posts)Its got to be incredibly exhausting.
mr715
(4,854 posts)choie
(7,112 posts)choie
(7,112 posts)wnylib
(26,815 posts)I heard him speak at a local No Kings rally last fall and voted for him in yesterday's primary, even though I am usually a left of center Dem but not so far left. I will volunteer for his campaign in the general, too, because I want to unseat the current MAGA House Rep in our district.
He won in a landslide.
JBTaurus83
(1,851 posts)His brand isnt selling. If he hasnt figured it out by now, he will be the next one out the door.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)Do you think a republican will defeat him in November?
mr715
(4,854 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)But that's hardly being the "next one out the door".
mr715
(4,854 posts)Jeffries is going to have new members of his caucus. He is very likely to be elected Speaker in a few months. He has more to gain by making nice mouth noises to the new meat.
My understanding is that my former district was embroiled in some particularly nasty racial shit involving the island of Hispanola. That sort of nastiness has no place in our caucus.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)"the next one out the door" as was claimed in the post I responded to.
mr715
(4,854 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)Thank you
Bob_in_VA
(149 posts)The phrase "out the door" can mean two different things. One, Jeffreys loses hi seat in the House. Probably not unless something catastrophic happens in his District and he's to blame. Two, he loses his position in the leadership; the Dems take the House but someone else is elected Speaker. So the first option, probably not but the second option is up in the air since it depends, in part, on how many Progressive/far left Democratic and/or Independent candidates win their respective races. Based on my inbox, there's at least 12 to 20 such candidates running, many of whom have at least a reasonably good chance of winning their election, particularly in the current climate where what had been safe Republican seats are no longer safe. I know this because they are all asking me to fund their races.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)"next one out the door". If Jeffries is the next one, who is the last one?
mr715
(4,854 posts)Now, they're going to win... but still. He's the Democratic leader. He needs their votes!
dem4decades
(14,656 posts)mr715
(4,854 posts)I certainly do not.
However I did enjoy watching it happen to Kevin McCarthy again... and again... and again... and again... and again...
He kept that stupid plastered smile on his face while his party cut off his testicles again... and again... again...
dem4decades
(14,656 posts)Cha
(321,544 posts)"The next one out the door".
Quiet Em
(3,234 posts)These are both incredible Democratic men with completely different jobs.
Mamdani endorsed three candidates in a city that he runs as Mayor because he believes they had a better message and may offer better results for the people of his city.
Jeffries needs to keep a very large and diverse coalition of House Democrats from across all spectrums and geographies united as an equal front. On top of that he is a New York State Representative who works with other NYS Democrats.
I know there are members of the Congressional Hispanic caucus who may be upset, and other NYS Democratic leaders who rely on established relationships with other Democrats who may be upset, but the goal for both of these men is to bring them together. A goal I believe they both share and will manage.
What is not reality is the attempt to pin these two as being at war with each other.
LymphocyteLover
(10,414 posts)Cha
(321,544 posts)I bet there are Dems in Congress who had strong relationships with those who lost in NYC.
Like Rep Dan Goldman, who is a brilliant contributor to our democracy.
betsuni
(29,436 posts)That's stupid.
Scrivener7
(60,358 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,956 posts)The fiend!!!!
Question: "What's your relationship with Mamdani as it stands right now?"
"Very good one, we speak regularly."
Hey, let's divide Dems for the midterms. Always a winning strategy!
Cha
(321,544 posts)didn't read the whole thing before they piled on Leader Jeffries.
Hey, that's what I keep saying...
The fiend!!!!
Question: "What's your relationship with Mamdani as it stands right now?"
Mahalo, MorbidButterflyTat☮️💙🌻🕯️🕊️
Lovie777
(24,488 posts)corporate media's goal is to pit Democrats against each other, something they never did when the fucked up tea party fraction came into focus.
We will stick together because the big tent favors diversity, D.E.I and Woke, compassion, equal rights, affordable economy, well paying jobs with benefits and retirement, affordable health care, et al.
Joinfortmill
(21,918 posts)LymphocyteLover
(10,414 posts)Pelosi apparently thought he had the skills for that
Joinfortmill
(21,918 posts)LymphocyteLover
(10,414 posts)Sympthsical
(11,280 posts)It's like some sort of children's cartoon, Goblin v. Gopher.
What the hell, HuffPo.
It's like the ferrets don't even exist to you.
QueerDuck
(2,133 posts)Buddyzbuddy
(3,038 posts)You've chosen wrong. Progressives have always been here choosing between what we want and what we can get. This is the result. You can move with us or eventually you might not have a choice. Your predecessor chose you with the support of the old guard. Well, it's time for a changing of the guard. It can be painful and disruptive or you can choose to fight this fight with us.
But, know that there is change coming.
The minorities and youth of American can no longer be taken for granted.
Nanjeanne
(6,825 posts)Its not hard Hakeem.
sheshe2
(99,042 posts)To welcome them into the House...before they win the GE in election in November. That would be putting the cart before the horse.
I commend them all for their win in the primary and expect in a very blue state like NY they have a decisive win in the GE. I believe it is 01/03/2027 when the winners are sworn in!
IMHO, welcoming them into the House before that could put a jinx on things.
Nanjeanne
(6,825 posts)be a good mive for Hakeem. I dont think hed jinx anything by saying he is excited to have them working with him in the house.
LilElf70
(1,708 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2026, 09:37 PM - Edit history (1)
no more ignorant, corrupt, get rich politicians are acceptable. From either side. People are totally fed up. It now appears to finally be about "We the people", which just may start a completely different concept to run a country. The people come FIRST. The younger generation has seen some of the most tumultuous years of this country. I personally can't believe how bad we have allowed it to get. They're fed up and their future is in their hands. They know this.
I cannot deny something is happening. All these wins, just don't happen. More are coming, believe me. People are fed up on both sides. It's truly time for change. A country that EVERYONE can enjoy. I actually welcome Mandami, and his likes. The next 2 years could be the most exciting years this country has ever had.
I wish us all good luck on the outcome in November.
It's time to kick some ass.
choie
(7,112 posts)Why should Mamdani apologize for being authentic and choosing to endorse three progressive candidates (who, by the way, won)? Jeffries should spend his time trying to stop trump and his administration instead of fostering a battle with Mamdani and other lefties.
orthoclad
(5,099 posts)SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)support segregation, ignore the holocaust, imprison Japanese American without trial, send the military to end a labor union strike and funnel billions into the military industry complex.
fujiyamasan
(2,181 posts)But also a good reminder of why it may be time to stop looking to the past for solutions to present day problems.
orthoclad
(5,099 posts)But even with his warts, he was miles to the left of most current pols. A convenient symbol for moving left. He was called a "class traitor".
Some rads think Trump is actually good for them, that he'll finally get the masses moving. Personally, I don't think the suffering is worth it. But maybe it will happen.
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)in the Democratic Party are blacks and Jews. Because of segregation, they didn't see many benefits from the new deal. And because FDR ignored the Holocaust, they don't hold him in high regard. So involking FDR and the New Deal is not the flex that some think it is.
usonian
(27,160 posts)
Real movie.
orthoclad
(5,099 posts)They shoulda cast Ahnold.
usonian
(27,160 posts)betsuni
(29,436 posts)revolution leading to socialism. Whenever Norman Thomas, the six-time Socialist presidential candidate, was asked if FDR was carrying out his socialist program, he would answer with one of his famous quips such as, 'Yes, he is carrying it out in a coffin.' ... Roosevelt's liberalism was a new, middle path, one step to the left of Hoover's conservative, small-government philosophy, and two steps to the right of socialism." Steven Stoft
Democrats are accused of only "tinkering/nibbling around the edges" -- "They're more interested in clinging to power than allow a grassroots mobilization which has the potential to transform America. They've become an impediment to that." Bernie Sanders
FDR was a liberal Democrat same as the modern Democratic Party. Don't listen to anyone who says FDR was a democratic socialist. It's the 21st century. (Also, FDR was a wealthy 1% establishment elite capitalist to his bones and people should stop weaponizing those words against Democrats.)
SocialDemocrat61
(8,342 posts)FDR saw his role as saving capitalism to prevent a socialist revolution.
orthoclad
(5,099 posts)The shine wasn't off Stalin yet, and communism was respectable. Look at Paul Robeson.
Would we have had a rev if not for FDR?
orthoclad
(5,099 posts)eat up all the oxygen in the room. They have a point, that radical change is weakened by moderate change.
Fil1957
(970 posts)MorbidButterflyTat
(4,956 posts)Just read the click bait and it's off with his head! WTF.
dlk
(13,439 posts)Far too much is at stake and internecine battles only weaken us.
gulliver
(14,160 posts)Her post is wrong and a rotten way to treat Jeffries.
betsuni
(29,436 posts)Response to demmiblue (Original post)
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betsuni
(29,436 posts)Slogans should be "No, we can't" "Infighting Together" "It's not me, it's you" "When we fight, you lose" "Hate trumps love" "I'm with me" "Republicans who?" "No solutions, just fighting" and so on.
Cha
(321,544 posts)show.
He's brilliant, I'm so grateful he's fighting for us to Win the Midterms!
Bluetus
(3,298 posts)WTF is this, saying the guy who got elected mayor in a landslide and just did a clean sweep of his regional endorsements, and it was all based on solid progressive ideas, needs to "patch things up"?
It is Jeffries who needs to take a look at the ground he is standing on. If he keeps this up, he may not end up being Speaker.
I don't support it serves any Dem interests at this point to have a public fight for the Speaker ship, but progressives in the House had better be meeting with Jeffries to let him know his support as future Speaker is not guaranteed. And if he doesn't get that message, why does he think he can win his next primary?
Think about it. AOC knocked out an entrenched institutionalist. Mamdani's endorsee knocked off Goldman, who isn't a bad guy, but just a little too timid for the times. Why would Jeffries think this can't happen to him? JEFFRIES is the one who should be hat in hand at this point, and asking Mamdani for advice how to proceed.