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In It to Win It

(12,908 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:17 AM 6 hrs ago

SCOTUS holds states can count late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day

First (but *not* last) ruling from #SCOTUS today is in Watson v. RNC. For a 5-4 majority (with Thomas, Alito, and Gorsuch, Kavanaugh dissenting), Justice Barrett holds that federal law does *not* bar states from counting late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day.

Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2026-06-29T14:02:49.360Z
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SCOTUS holds states can count late-arriving mail-in ballots that are postmarked on or before Election Day (Original Post) In It to Win It 6 hrs ago OP
Good Aviation Pro 6 hrs ago #1
WOW... Hate to say it ordinarily, but thank you Amy Coney Barrett hlthe2b 6 hrs ago #2
Amy Barrett has had a couple of ruling which favored The People IMHO--but admit I already forget which ones. riversedge 5 hrs ago #4
Maybe Trump will alienate some more women with a typical nasty comment. Would be a win for us. RoeVWade 5 hrs ago #7
Yes, she has come across as a bit more PatSeg 5 hrs ago #10
Oh, yes, T and A, as I like to call them, will ALWAYS be as extreme as possible. ShazzieB 3 hrs ago #44
I'll be happy with an age or health related retirement PatSeg 2 hrs ago #46
Ketchup will be flying... SheltieLover 6 hrs ago #3
It appears that Amy Coney Barret has become the deciding vote on this Supreme Court. kentuck 5 hrs ago #5
Does this ruling shoot down the proposed SAVE Act... kentuck 5 hrs ago #6
No Sympthsical 5 hrs ago #8
But this is the law until Congress votes to change it? kentuck 5 hrs ago #12
Yes, this is law until Congress passes new law that changes it. In It to Win It 5 hrs ago #16
Congress can still try to change those laws. Ms. Toad 5 hrs ago #13
Yeah, the SAVE Act would absolutely end up in front of the Court Sympthsical 5 hrs ago #19
Would that require homegirl 5 hrs ago #20
Currently the SAVE act is being blocked by the Senate, Ms. Toad 4 hrs ago #26
But what about the post office refusing to mail ballots in states that don't supply dump with the voter lists CurtEastPoint 5 hrs ago #9
I believe this is being challenged PatSeg 5 hrs ago #11
Blocked by Federal Court judge last week. paleotn 4 hrs ago #25
AMAZING! Thanks! CurtEastPoint 4 hrs ago #35
WTF. This should be a fucking no brainer since the vote was cast during an election. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 5 hrs ago #14
Some areas keep the post office open until midnight MichMan 4 hrs ago #30
Wow, a rare SCOTUS decision not in favor of the Murdoch Ministry Of Propaganda! What's next? Initech 5 hrs ago #15
A good ruling MustLoveBeagles 4 hrs ago #37
Well, we got to take whatever wins we can get! Initech 4 hrs ago #38
I'm in agreement MustLoveBeagles 4 hrs ago #40
I'm going to guess they pull nonsense on birthright citizenship EnergizedLib 5 hrs ago #17
State CAN count them or MUST count them? Blumancru 5 hrs ago #18
It depends on state laws MichMan 4 hrs ago #22
Just 'forget' to postmark ones in blue districts... kirby 5 hrs ago #21
Or someone will come up with their own copy of a postmark. MichMan 4 hrs ago #23
But will the post office post mark them? yellowcanine 4 hrs ago #24
Good malaise 4 hrs ago #27
Bottom line MoseShrute 4 hrs ago #28
This jives with contract law - postmark dates a contract bucolic_frolic 4 hrs ago #29
This would have been a no brainer to probably every other Supreme Court. crud 4 hrs ago #31
That 2000 election, popsdenver 4 hrs ago #41
The Extreme Court has the "shadow docket" Soul_of_Wit 3 hrs ago #43
Why would anyone wait until election day to use a mail in ballot? MichMan 4 hrs ago #32
The undersranding used to be because it would be counted and also because things change dramatically (esp in primaries) SSJVegeta 4 hrs ago #34
An actual example usage of "procrastinate" from Merriam-Webster.com Soul_of_Wit 4 hrs ago #39
Barrett has been the most democratic member of the anti-democracy court SSJVegeta 4 hrs ago #33
Barrett just told the GOP how to change federal law Raven123 4 hrs ago #36
Just more evidence to me the Supreme Court must be expanded standingtall 3 hrs ago #42
Scotland ABC123Easy 2 hrs ago #45

hlthe2b

(115,215 posts)
2. WOW... Hate to say it ordinarily, but thank you Amy Coney Barrett
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:20 AM
6 hrs ago

This is good news in a sea of bad lately.

riversedge

(82,274 posts)
4. Amy Barrett has had a couple of ruling which favored The People IMHO--but admit I already forget which ones.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:31 AM
5 hrs ago

RoeVWade

(966 posts)
7. Maybe Trump will alienate some more women with a typical nasty comment. Would be a win for us.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:39 AM
5 hrs ago

Weird but seems true.

PatSeg

(54,084 posts)
10. Yes, she has come across as a bit more
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:48 AM
5 hrs ago

moderate and reasonable. In the meantime, we can pretty much guarantee that Alito and Thomas will be as extreme as possible.

ShazzieB

(23,092 posts)
44. Oh, yes, T and A, as I like to call them, will ALWAYS be as extreme as possible.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:48 PM
3 hrs ago

I also like to call them the Gruesome Twosome (among other, less PG rated things).

I hope they both drop dead on January 21, 2029, the day after our new Democratic president gets sworn in. (A girl can dream, okay? )

PatSeg

(54,084 posts)
46. I'll be happy with an age or health related retirement
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 02:09 PM
2 hrs ago

They are both old enough and Thomas barely looks alive anyway (though he's always looked like that I suppose).

"T and A"!!!

kentuck

(116,095 posts)
5. It appears that Amy Coney Barret has become the deciding vote on this Supreme Court.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:37 AM
5 hrs ago

And we will take our victories wherever we can get them.

This was a big vote and ketchup is running down the walls near the Oval Office.

Sympthsical

(11,307 posts)
8. No
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:43 AM
5 hrs ago

The Court's interpretation here was purely based on current statute law about elections.

Congress can still change those laws.

kentuck

(116,095 posts)
12. But this is the law until Congress votes to change it?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:51 AM
5 hrs ago

Right?

Then it could be challenged in Court?

Ms. Toad

(38,912 posts)
13. Congress can still try to change those laws.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:56 AM
5 hrs ago

Whether they are legally permitted to remains an open question.

homegirl

(2,040 posts)
20. Would that require
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:21 AM
5 hrs ago

fifty one votes or sixty six + votes in the Senate, and would it also not have to be passed by the House?

Ms. Toad

(38,912 posts)
26. Currently the SAVE act is being blocked by the Senate,
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:41 AM
4 hrs ago

where they don't have enough votes for cloture (60 votes), to end a the filibuster and likely don't have enough (50+1) even if they overcome the filibuster.

The House has already passed the SAVE act. So if it passes the Senate, we're done.

CurtEastPoint

(20,147 posts)
9. But what about the post office refusing to mail ballots in states that don't supply dump with the voter lists
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:48 AM
5 hrs ago

PatSeg

(54,084 posts)
11. I believe this is being challenged
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:50 AM
5 hrs ago

Not sure about the details though. I'm on overload right now.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,432 posts)
14. WTF. This should be a fucking no brainer since the vote was cast during an election.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:57 AM
5 hrs ago

Let me make this in a sports analogy, since that is all most people understand these days. If I toss a basketball during a game and it makes the basket before the game ends, the score counts! Duh.

MichMan

(17,652 posts)
30. Some areas keep the post office open until midnight
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:44 AM
4 hrs ago

Meaning people were allowed to mail ballots after in person voting sites were closed

Initech

(109,677 posts)
15. Wow, a rare SCOTUS decision not in favor of the Murdoch Ministry Of Propaganda! What's next?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 10:59 AM
5 hrs ago

Initech

(109,677 posts)
38. Well, we got to take whatever wins we can get!
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:18 PM
4 hrs ago

This war is far from over. Fuck Trump, fuck SCOTUS, and fuck Fox News!

EnergizedLib

(3,233 posts)
17. I'm going to guess they pull nonsense on birthright citizenship
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:09 AM
5 hrs ago

You know how it goes with this corrupt court. For every decision that goes our way, there are nine which don’t.

Blumancru

(390 posts)
18. State CAN count them or MUST count them?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:15 AM
5 hrs ago

There is a big difference between the two, and I bet there will be a big difference between the way red and blue states handle late arriving ballots.

MichMan

(17,652 posts)
22. It depends on state laws
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:31 AM
4 hrs ago

Those that allow it based on postmarks can continue to do so. Those that don't aren't forced to.

MoseShrute

(175 posts)
28. Bottom line
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:42 AM
4 hrs ago

If at all possible, get that ballot completed and put in the mail ASAP. There will always be some weird situations where that isn’t possible, but those should be exceptions.

bucolic_frolic

(56,362 posts)
29. This jives with contract law - postmark dates a contract
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:42 AM
4 hrs ago

Now the GOP can focus on getting the USPS to slow down delivery.

crud

(1,330 posts)
31. This would have been a no brainer to probably every other Supreme Court.
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:44 AM
4 hrs ago

Up until the Bush V Gore ruling, they always made the voter and the right to vote paramount.

popsdenver

(2,831 posts)
41. That 2000 election,
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:29 PM
4 hrs ago

was the second time the Republican's Supreme Court allowed a decision that should have been challenged BIG TIME.
Voting was a States Right. The U.S. Supreme Court had absolutely NO LEGAL RIGHT to intervene in the Florida Election Re-count. But the Supremes came in, stopped the re-count, dictated by Florida Law, because they suspected that it would show Gore the Winner.............
The worst part is, that once the Supreme Court corruptly and illegally pulled that off, it forever established a precedent for them to use from then on. Allowing them to use it to corruptly and illegally use it as a precedent to interject themselves into elections for ever more.........................

The first time was when HWBush and his CABAL committed treason to throw the election to "installing" Reagan.........

Soul_of_Wit

(209 posts)
43. The Extreme Court has the "shadow docket"
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:32 PM
3 hrs ago

Maybe they should have a "self-evident" docket. The slang name would be the "no duh" docket.

MichMan

(17,652 posts)
32. Why would anyone wait until election day to use a mail in ballot?
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:45 AM
4 hrs ago

They are sent out weeks ahead of time.

SSJVegeta

(3,439 posts)
34. The undersranding used to be because it would be counted and also because things change dramatically (esp in primaries)
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 11:56 AM
4 hrs ago

Before election day. But in general elections quite frankly, people need to turn that thing in as soon as they get it. And also theres a good chance the government will do everything they can to not count our votes so sooner is always better no matter what at this point.

Soul_of_Wit

(209 posts)
39. An actual example usage of "procrastinate" from Merriam-Webster.com
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:21 PM
4 hrs ago
Natomas resident Sarah Arizaga, 46, wasn’t familiar with all of the candidates, so procrastinated on submitting her ballot until the final day.

standingtall

(3,203 posts)
42. Just more evidence to me the Supreme Court must be expanded
Mon Jun 29, 2026, 12:32 PM
3 hrs ago

Right decision yes, but 5-4 decision in a case that should've been 9-0 tells me everything I need yo know.

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