mom tells 9 yr old, if he ever rapes anyone: “I will cut your penis off, shove it down your throat

[Liberal_in_LA]

At that gathering, women who said they too had been victims of rape took their turn at the microphone and demanded justice. They talked of reporting their crimes only to be ostracized by their friends and told they “wanted it.” They talked of having to live in the same communities with their attackers, of watching those men accept awards for volunteering with young girls and of seeing their rapists approach their own children, decades later. One 11-year-old girl took the microphone and said she was afraid she would be raped someday and then broke down crying. A woman from Harrison County, the mother of a 9-year-old boy, said she told her son earlier that day that if he ever rapes anyone, “I will cut your penis off, shove it down your throat and watch you die slowly.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/07/steubenville-rape-case-splits-town-between-big-red-and-guy-fawkes.html

[lunatica]

1. That's child abuse

I can't stand women who have sons who treat them so badly. No wonder they grow up to hate women!

[hlthe2b]

8. You act as though this is "common?" WTF? I have never known anyone to be so deranged & cruel

in what they say to their child and I would doubt this is more than an out-of-control emotional rhetorical outburst that this woman would never actually say to a child. If one did, however, she should quite obviously be denounced strongly.

That you assume this is a common problem ("I can't stand women who have sons who treat them so badly. No wonder they grow up to hate women!&quot --that mentally stable women would actually say such a thing to their child and thus suggest this to be widespread problem, though, is pretty disturbing to me.

[lunatica]

9. I've known quite a few mothers of boys who do similar things all the time

It isn't as uncommon as you'd like.

[Sheldon Cooper]

10. What did the authorities do when you reported them for child abuse?

Because surely anyone who saw anything like that would report it, in order to keep those boys from growing up to hate women.

[lunatica]

15. You take yourself way too seriously

I don't care what you think though.

[Sheldon Cooper]

40. Irony!

Lol

[LanternWaste]

60. It doesn't rise to the legal level of abuse...

It doesn't rise to the legal level of abuse... at least in the state of TX (former CPS worker).

However, I can certainly understand someone (well.. anyone) considering it such, and calling it so on an informal discussion boards.

[datasuspect]

2. i wouldn't worry as much about rape from that boy

as i would serial killing. probably more likely. amazing that so many children have to grow up in monster factories.

what a horrifying witch of a mother.

[AverageJoe90]

46. Yeah. God damn.

Sad to say, there's a lot of hardcore reactionaries out there who actually believe this is "good parenting" somehow.....it boggles the fucking mind, man.

[Skip Intro]

3. Sad for that child. nt

[Baitball Blogger]

4. Someone needs to call social services.

[temporary311]

5. Didn't Ralph Fiennes

character in Red Dragon have a mother like that, or was it grandmother?

[truebrit71]

17. I think it was grandma...

..

[HappyMe]

6. Child abuse, plain and simple.

Wretched, abusive woman.

[BlueCaliDem]

7. The mother needs psychiatric help posthaste!

You NEVER talk that way to your children, let alone one so young! The mother is basically daring the boy to challenge her rigid authority, and we know how that might play out.

I feel for the boy.

[southernyankeebelle]

11. Well I bet that alone he will get it. I know I always told my son when a girl says no she means

no and not maybe. I tell him remember you have female cousins and girls that are friends you wouldn't want that to happen to. I also know when some guys are with others and they are drinking and make fools of themselves they are stupid enough to do something they probably wish they hadn't. As a parent you teach them right and wrong and hope for the best. I know I would disown my son if he did something like this.

[HappyMe]

14. So, you are saying that the mom

was justified in saying that to her 9 year old son?

[southernyankeebelle]

21. I don't know why she would say that to a 9 year old. I would tell my 15 yr old that. Sometimes

shock works. But I don't think with a 9 yr old.

[HappyMe]

22. Holy crap!

I wouldn't even say that to anybody, let alone my own child.

[southernyankeebelle]

30. That is you. That is your right. I remember my son always being late going from

class to class and he would get in trouble. So one day I decided I was going to see what was going on. Well he was surprised to see me at his first class in the afternoon. His friends asked why I was there and I told them. So each class I went with him til the end of the day. He was cured. Sometimes you have to do what you have to do.

I thought was taking it a step up. But my friend told me he was called to the school because his son was a look out while other was stealing stuff out of backpacks. He went to the school and he went to every class with his son and his son and to stand up in front of the class to tell them why he was there. The funny thing was none of the other parents did a thing to their kids. But he wasn't going to let his kid get away with anything. After that he was grounded for a long time. I bet he turned out pretty good in the end. The school was happy the father held him accountable.

[pnwmom]

26. That would be a disgusting thing to say to a son of any age.

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It implies that you think a vicious threat is necessary to keep him from being a rapist.

It should be entirely sufficient to tell any son that no means no and that a woman who isn't fully conscious is not capable of giving consent.

[southernyankeebelle]

35. Your right and I wouldn't say it.

[pnwmom]

53. I didn't think you would.

It's easy to speak too soon around here.

[southernyankeebelle]

66. yep, but sometimes people get way to excited. I can say am guilty of that myself. LOL

[Auntie Bush]

39. Maybe instead of having to say "NO"...If we don't say "YES" ...it's RAPE!

Doesn't one always need permission to enter? You have to have someone there to say stay out.

[closeupready]

29. No you wouldn't say that to your child.

It's fun to fantasize on a discussion board what someone somewhere may do, or even what you yourself would do, but would you actually do it? No - I'm familiar enough with your message history here to say, you wouldn't threaten violence to a loved one.

[southernyankeebelle]

33. Busted, no I wouldn't say it. I would yell. I am a yeller. I did however go to his school

and followed him class to class. It cured him from being late for his classes. But I would pray to god hard that my loved one wouldn't do something like that really. Wouldn't you?

[closeupready]

41. Yes, of course - we are on the same wavelength, hon.

[southernyankeebelle]

42. Are you a Marylander?

[closeupready]

43. No, but I've been there quite a few times -

lovely state, esp. Frederick and along the Delaware River. On edit, or whatever that tributary is in Maryland, near the Chesapeake Bay, on I-95.

[southernyankeebelle]

50. Oh when you said "Hon". They say that around there. I call Maryland my home.

I use to live outside of Fort Meade in Odenton, Maryland. Great place to raise a family. Mostly r etired military live in that area. My sisters moved to Mechanicsville. I haven't been to their new homes. I wish I was back home in Maryland. There is so much to do in the surrounding areas of Washington,DC, VA and MD. You can get on that train and go to NYC. Love it. Now I live in a rural town in TN. It took me awhile to get use to it. I love where we live because its peaceful and quiet and hardly any neighbors.

[NCTraveler]

12. That is sad for the child.

Just last week there was an op where a member used a recent event to discuss the issue with their children. It was a wonderful display of parenting. Then you see something like this. This parent needs some help. While there is no guide for parenting, one shouldn't need one to know this is wrong. I wish that op could be sent to this mother. Maybe this is the way she was brought up and she can be shown there is a different and better way.

[AverageJoe90]

48. It was trumad, I think......n/t

[NCTraveler]

64. Yes it was.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022129051

Great display of parenting.

[slackmaster]

13. The woman seems to be a bit disturbed

I hope she seeks help for her problem.

[cthulu2016]

16. I would guess the odds of that boy becoming a rapist just went up

Trauma and hysterics are not the path to well-adjusted kids.

[slackmaster]

28. His odds of having a lifetime of castration anxiety or self-image problems certainly went up

[billbailey19448jj]

18. That mother is truly deranged

She needs to see a psychiatrist ASAP, while her poor son should be taken care of by Social Services.

[NewJeffCT]

19. wow

that's rather extreme. Why not just teach your son to respect women and not take advantage of them?

[ecstatic]

20. That reminds me of the father who killed his son for molesting his sister

http://abcnews.go.com/WN/father-kills-son-molesting-sister/story?id=9127703#.UOsVVm-x-So

[white_wolf]

23. Disgusting. I hope the state takes that kid away ASAP.

His mother needs to be required to seek a professional help before ever being allowed to see her kid again.

[Last Stand]

24. I can think of a couple of DU posters who might say that.

The generalized venom on these rape threads by a few posters is hard to escape sometimes.

[closeupready]

27. +1. I no longer open most threads about rape here; I trash

them all because there is too much nonsense that goes on in the guise of consciousness-raising or whatever, which is, instead, something else, but not discussion.

[Gormy Cuss]

32. "Might say that?"

might say that= no one here has done so, correct?

Do go on about that "generalized venom" in rape threads. What kind of reaction do you expect in a society where all too often rape victims are still treated like irresponsible people or liars?

[MadrasT]

37. "Generalized venom?" And this is a problem for you, how, exactly? n/t

[seabeyond]

51. i have two sons. i am one of the more vocal on du, with this issue. are you suggesting that i

might say something like this to my boys?

that is a pretty nasty insult to all the moms on du, with sons. yet, you dare to point the finger at us about "generalized venom".

is this is hit and run insult? you know, the cowardly kind.

[GObamaGO]

54. Disgusting Broad Brush post.

[Last Stand]

65. I said "a few"

See post 21--the poster is making my point.
My broader point is that people don't always respond to these problems in constructive ways. Sorry, it's true. The Duke rape case threads were a bloodbath. Recent threads have had instances where men have been painted with that "wide brush". People get angry and inflammatory sometimes. That's the venom I refer to. And it exists on DU.

Again, I said "a few". But those few can really make it hard to feel welcome as a male poster on those threads. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels that way.

For those of you not part of those few, my apologies. But I don't think my post was unfair

[yardwork]

67. Post #21 was clearly a joke, as everybody else seems to understand.

Meanwhile, you just made a very nasty broadbrush attack on DUers in general. So far you are the one making an unconstructive post, imo.

[99Forever]

59. Yep.

I rarely ever open them because of just that, and now almost never make a reply to them. Their broadbrushing vitriol really does a disservice to the entire topic.

[closeupready]

25. While he shouldn't ever rape, one hopes education

achieves that end, rather than indoctrination or threats of violence.

[libodem]

31. I have never gone for any of that violent talk

Towards children. I never liked: I brought you into this world I can take you out, talk. Yuck!

We had neighbors where the grandma 'disciplined' the kids by showing and threatening with a butcher knife, for years. That is confidential. I wasn't supposed to hear about it. But gross. Even if there were 17 kids sent to her by her Catholic prostitute daughter, in California.

[Romulox]

34. Sounds like mother has a mental health issue/fixation on sexual violence. And she's projecting

that onto her pre-pubescent son.

[MadrasT]

36. That is appalling.

How can a mother talk to her child that way?

[s-cubed]

38. I agree that that is a horrible thing to say, BUT

of all the horrible things in that article to be picked out and posted, that is one of the lesser ones. Here you have someone saying something she may or may not have SAID, vs. football players DOING horrible things to a girl, and talking about her as if she were a piece of garbage.

Why did you choose that line as your post vs all the other things you could have quoted? Do I see some hidden motivation here?

[Liberal_in_LA]

45. no hidden motivation. The line really stood out. I've posted plenty about the horrors of

the stuebenville rape

[cthulu2016]

52. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is DU is a nutshell

[Skip Intro]

68. You got that right.

Poster doesn't like the subject of the OP, so attacks the poster of the OP instead.

Round and round we go...

[HereSince1628]

44. Ah, parenthood, one can hope that the woman was lying for the hyperbole

at the same time I'm reminded of John Prine-like lyrics
that call on childhood memories of mom

...I miss the way she used to yell at me
The way she used to cuss and moan!!
And if old mom must move in with me
I hope she'll be the mom I left back home.

[datasuspect]

49. pining for memories of penis amputation . . .

dear old ma.

[HereSince1628]

57. She bobbited my brother Dick not me...

After that she just put Androcur in the salt shakers.

[Warren DeMontague]

47. this thread is going to go well.

[Jefferson23]

55. Just what a boy needs to acquire the female perspective...a lunatic mother.

Hopefully someone reports her and checks this claim out.

[Rex]

56. Parenting, not just for the verbose

[patrice]

58. k, well, I have been around some street-culture lately & even allowing for cultural differences...

that would be over the line, especially for a public context, even for the street types I know who have emo prog-ish tendencies.

People ARE entitled to their feelings, but they should also do reality checks with themselves about themselves and, had such a statement issued from my mouth in a public hearing, I would be asking myself why I felt it necessary to "rape" others with that image.

[whatchamacallit]

61. Nothing like a mother's love...

It's hard to think when such a graphic and hateful threat would be appropriate to ones own son. Maybe if he was an adolescent or adult with a history of disrespect for women? But a 9 yr old? Kinda f'd up.

[sibelian]

62. "my 9 year old son is a potential rapist".

Well. There you go.

[Kalidurga]

63. That is a horrifying thing to say to a child on so many levels.

I hope that she was exaggerating, but I doubt it. I hope if she said it, that it was a in the heat of the moment kind of thing and her son is understanding of that(some kinds are very understanding) and he doesn't take it personally. It is very likely this woman was abused, not saying it's a fact or makes what she said less horrible, but she need to take care of that issue before she physically hurts someone. No doubt she has left a trail of emotionally abused people in her wake though.

[SpartanDem]

69. What a sicko

[RedCappedBandit]

70. No wonder people are so violent these days.