What did Alex Jones say last night? I am really curious...

[No Compromise]

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He is mostly off the wall, but sometimes he is accurate like in his exposing Bush.

He spent 8 years bashing Bush on the lies about 9/11, the lies about the war, the violations of our Constitution like the Patriot Act, Homeland Security and the TSA...he has exposed the looting with blackwater etc, fought against the bailouts...

If he is waking Republicans up to any truth than I support him.

Everyone keeps acting like they are surprised that someone crazy is on the corporate media?

When is the last time you watched a normal intelligent person discuss the economy with truths and facts?

They are all a bunch of moronic sociopathic lying assholes, I think Alex Jones is the least of our problem.

The others pretend to be normal while lying to our faces every day, enabling the conservatives to win when they lose, pretending they are liberal while supporting every lie of the Republican party.

So I would really like to know, what was so awful last night, lots of bashing with no information.

[spanone]

1. mostly off the wall? he's out of his dangerous fucking mind.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

26. Did you see the fucking video? You want us to rationally discuss what

that raving, UNRATIONAL lunatic had to say?

You're lost. Totally lost.

[No Compromise]

37. I can't watch the video, why is everyone so irrationally angry about this?

I just wanted to know what he said, sheesh...

[ChisolmTrailDem]

40. Who can say what he said? It was all yelling and raving non-sense. And you are

defending it. Which says a LOT about you.

You'd be best just to drop this and go back to listening to his show. It's on right now I think and he's probably bragging right now that he took Morgan apart. That way the rest of us can go back to discussing important stuff instead of fucking with you who deigns to defend Jones while claiming you didn't see the segment on Morgan's show.

[No Compromise]

43. I'm not defending him, I asked what he said

he use to bash bush, was wondering what he was saying that is so offensive and everyone keeps behaving irrationally just like him.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

44. Do yourself a favor and ...

... GO AWAY with this Alex Jones defense.

[No Compromise]

50. why don't you go to another thread if you aren't interested

it is not your job to police me

[ChisolmTrailDem]

51. Maybe it is, and maybe it isn't. We shall see shortly. eom

[cali]

29. understanding that he is filthy piece of dog shit has nothing to do with

being a republican. It has to to do with being rational.

[Erose999]

2. Well the interview pretty much descended into 9/11 truther arguments, so theres that.

[No Compromise]

5. what did he say about 9/11?

He talked about building 7?

Is that taboo?

[zappaman]

11. No, not taboo.

Just bullshit.

[No Compromise]

13. which part?

It's strange the media talked about the two towers constantly, showing those two building come down over and over, but never building 7.

You think it just doesn't matter?

[zappaman]

16. What are you talking about?

Many people died in the twin towers, while the empty building 7 collapsed after being hit by debris and burning for hours.
Yes, the media focused on the buildings that had a massive loss of life and not the empty one. Why is that strange?
What is your point?

[No Compromise]

38. have you seen a video of how the building came down? Does the media show it?

kinda weird that it collapsed from a tiny bit of debris and very small fire.

These are the only three steel buildings ever to collapse from fire.

[zappaman]

58. uh huh

riiiiiiiiiight.....

[Paladin]

62. God, I Love It When Posters Divulge Things That They Should Have Kept To Themselves....

[11 Bravo]

69. And there it is! Just couldn't help yourself, could you?

[sharp_stick]

22. Truther talk is thataway ---->

it's not allowed outside of it's designated wooo area. You really risk a tombstone if you continue to pursue it.

[Capt. Obvious]

25. Because the media is in on it

The bombs that took down Building 7 were made by General Electric and financed by News Corporation.

[Erose999]

3. Here's the full interview on youtube. Jones is still ranting when they cut him off. I wouldn't be

surprised if he wasn't thrown out by security.

[Kooljas]

7. According to Infowars he was thrown out.

But Infowars lies to line Alex Jones' pockets.

[RZM]

10. The headlines are pretty funny today

'Alex Jones: I Made CNN Producer Cry'

'Alex Jones blasts out with justified outrage at Piers Morgan and other traitors to human freedom'

'American Hero Alex Jones Told Unspeakable Truths On CNN'

'Armed Mafia Stalk Alex Jones Post Piers Morgan Debate: Video Report'

[KurtNYC]

19. Awesome !

Jones sounds like Stewie from Family Guy at the end.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

23. Completely unhinged. This guy owns firearms? Scary! eom

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

35. Holy shit my brain hurts. He sounds like a goddamn imbecile. I despise the corporate media as much

as anyone. But god damn he's annoying. And WTF was the stupid ass accent?

[Enrique]

4. he challenged Piers Morgan to a boxing match

I hope Piers takes him up on it, I would like to see that.

[Paladin]

6. So Now That You've Had A Chance To See The Interview....

...are you still in the mood to offer up defenses of Alex Jones? From my perspective as a gun control advocate, I hope Jones keeps spewing this sort of idiocy for years. With an enemy like him, my side needs far fewer friends.....

[No Compromise]

9. I have a slow connection, can't watch it

that is why I started the discussion because no one will say anything specific about what he said

[SunsetDreams]

32. I was under the impression that you watched it

or at least had knowledge of what he said...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022152341#post32


Alex Jones is an idiot conspiracy theorist.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

34. He didn't say anything. He spewed a bunch of craziness and

did it like a crazed lunatic, yelling, veins popping, making insults, pointing his finger, screaming New World Order and The Republic! And, of course, promoting his website, which he is sure to do whenever he's given the chance.

Exactly the type of behavior you don't want to see from a gun owner.

[KurtNYC]

30. Morgan came off like a condescending pompous jerk

and he gave Alex Jones a much bigger audience that is growing today by the minute because this has gone viral.

Morgan isn't half as smart as he thinks he is. Morgan should have ignored the petition, instead Piers Morgan becomes a punching bag on his own show and quadruples Alex Jones audience overnight.

[Erose999]

41. Being condescending is really the only way to handle a dick jerky like Jones. Jones will just rant

on and will commandeer the interview for his own agenda (batshit crazy trutherism) on if a host is in any way accommodating.

[KurtNYC]

66. The whole thing reminded me of one of James Carville favorite quotes:

"If you get in a fight with a pig, you're going to get dirty...and the pig will LOVE IT."

A talking heads show is not a courtroom. Piers Morgan should know that Alex Jones is not going to sit there like a choir boy and be put on trial.

"In any way accommodating" includes having him in on in the first place. Jones got his rant on and Morgan's condescension was just road kill.

[No Compromise]

45. I find that pretty amusing too, we need to shake up the morons on Corporate media

I can't believe people are defending that shit as normal.

[leftyohiolib]

12. he was screechy and unhinged and hannity would say - "im a screaming flailing jackass" screams alex

[No Compromise]

14. but WHAT did he say?

I just don't get all this bashing with no facts.


The entire corporate media are lying sociopaths, how is he different?

[trumad]

17. Dude---you're one big Dog Whistle.

Please quit---

[leftyohiolib]

24. bashing with no facts - that's the interview he's was all blabber and no facts

you want to know the actual words push the play button on the viewer- oh slow conn he said he wanted to put america underware and wrestle peirs on tv

[No Compromise]

49. okey, he wants a wrestling match, I'd like to see that lol

please invite all the other pundits as well, maybe a giant mud wrestling match.

It would be more entertaining and more honest than what we are currently seeing on corporate media.

[SidDithers]

33. He's Alex fucking Jones! He's got a long long history of crazy...

It doesn't matter what he said his time.

Your defence of him is noted. As was your use of farmwars.info as a source on the weekend.

Sid

[muriel_volestrangler]

36. "1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms"

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/01/07/us/piers-morgan-guns-debate/index.html

He said it's the global banks that are plotting to take away American guns. He offered to box Morgan. He screamed almost continuously, and, even when Morgan let him go on and on, and he finally came to an end, and he replied 'yes' to Morgan's "are you finished?", he then interrupted Morgan's next question and started ranting again.

Here's the context:

The answer is -- wait a minute, I have FBI crime statistics that come out of a year late, 2011, 20-plus percent crime drop in the last nine years, real violent crime because more guns means less crime. Britain took the guns 15, 16 years ago. Tripling of your overall violent crime. True, we have a higher gun violence level, but overall, muggings, stabbing, deaths -- those men raped that woman to India to death with an iron rod 4 feet long. You can't ban the iron rods. The guns, the iron rods, Piers, didn't do it, the tyrants did it. Hitler took the guns Stalin took the guns, Mao took the guns, Fidel Castro took the guns, Hugo Chavez took the guns, and I'm here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms! It doesn't matter how many lemmings you get out there in the street begging for them to have their guns taken. We will not relinquish them. Do you understand?

The reality of British violent crime, from the Crime Survey for England and Wales (CSEW):

Figure 4 shows increases in the number of violent incidents from the early eighties to 1995. This was
followed by a period of steep decreases, with the latest estimates being 17 per cent lower than those
observed from the 2006/07 survey, and 51 per cent lower than in 1995. The CSEW estimated 3 in
every 100 adults were a victim of violent crime according to the 2011/12 survey, compared with 5 in
100 adults in 1995.

Although overall CSEW violence showed no statistically significant change since the previous year
the sub-category of violence with injury decreased by 15 per cent compared with 2010/11. However,
recent trends in violence with injury have been flat, and this fall represents a return to levels of the
2009/10 survey after higher estimates from the 2010/11 survey.

The level of violence against the person recorded by the police in 2011/12 showed a 7 per cent fall,
compared with the previous year (Tables 6a and 6b). Violence with and without injury decreased
by 8 per cent and 6 per cent respectively. This is consistent with the downward trend seen since
2006/07. The latest levels of violence against the person have fallen by 27 per cent from 2006/07,
and 10 per cent from 2002/03.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/dcp171778_273169.pdf

If you started this thread to get us to agree that Alex Jones is a lying sociopath, then we'll gladly agree with that.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

42. Remember how he delivered that gem? Stark raving lunatic fashion, with fire in his eyes

and veins bulging to the bursting point. I was truly waiting for him to stroke out right then and there. Too bad he didn't.

[snooper2]

15. He is a fucking idiot, but most people are who scream "TRUTHY TO POWER!"

LOL

[ChisolmTrailDem]

27. Oh, he's not an idiot. He know EXACTLY what he is doing. eom

[riverwalker]

18. here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101790637

[ChisolmTrailDem]

20. Why do you continue to make a fool of yourself by shilling for this shyster? You have

been told numerous times already that Jones is full of shit in the name of bilking weak-minded followers and yet you continue to cut for him, now even to the point of starting an OP.

Why do you continue to convince people who know better that Jones is someone to take seriously?

[RockaFowler]

21. There are plenty of posts today about his appearance on the show

If you check out Mediaite or Huffington Post they will give you a rundown of what transpired.

If you want us to spoonfeed you information about the wacko guy, you've come to the wrong place. Most of us don't like him because he is a liar and conspiracy nut. And no - he loved Bush. Don't let anyone fool you.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

28. He's a fucking idiot. Hugo Chavez hasn't taken any guns and their violent crime rates are through

the roof. A 2 minute Google search would show him that.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

31. Kicking the stupid, hoping for a lock. Belongs in CS. eom

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

39. He said. And I quote:

[CrispyQ]

46. Before I turned it off, he asked how many monkey's can dance on the head of a pin.

That gives you an idea of his level of discourse. He & Wayne LaPierre would make great roommates.

[lastlib]

48. ...in a padded room.

These two need to be the first names in that database.

[CrispyQ]

74. DUzy!

[lastlib]

47. I don't know exactly what he said, but he sure made an ass of himself....

All I could get out of it was some hysterical blather about a 1776-style revolution if we touch his precious guns. The guy is a stark raving lunatic, and needs to be put in a strait-jacket for his own safety.

[CJCRANE]

52. The trouble is that Alex Jones is into EVERY SINGLE conspiracy theory going

whether plausible, implausible, ridiculous or flat out crazy.

He never saw a conspiracy theory he didn't like.

[Democracyinkind]

55. He draws the line at "reptilian humanoids from outer space"

Gotta love CT Schisms!

[ChisolmTrailDem]

56. Hell, it's Alex Jones that starts a good many of the ridiculous

conspiracy theories to which we are subjected.

[southernyankeebelle]

53. Go to the front page of DU where there are video clips. You will see Piers and Jones in

action. Jones acted like he was a crazy man. He did no favors for himself last night. He went completely overboard. He was rude and never let Piers get a word in. Watch and come back and tell us what you think.

[Democracyinkind]

54. Who cares? What's important is what he says here...

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

61. I thought that was supposed to be satire. It just seems like an accurate

reenactment. "AAAAAHHHHHHHRRRGHHH!"

[Democracyinkind]

68. I think it's uncanny. He's got real talent. It really gives you a feel of what AJ is all about.

And somehow I do admire him. My late grandfather used to say "There will come a day when people willingly will buy their own excrement from corporations." I often think about that when I read something about Jones. Somehow, the idea of making the excrement literal - or shall I say virtual ? - and thereby becoming rich strikes me as ingeniously all-american. It is, in essence, a corrupted version of the American Dream (if not the very thing itself!): Becoming rich by bullshitting your way through life and nobody ever mentioning it. And no particular skills needed - a truly grandiose career, equal-opportunity and yet meritocratic. Selling bullshit really is the trade of trades.

Also, I admire his sheer ability to talk for hours without ever saying anything. I think that the spoof I posted mocks that very well, too.

This post has gotten way too long. Why do I have so much to say about Alex Jones? And why am I writing it out to you? I'll just have dinner.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

70. Ha! I have to admit I was drawn to Mr. Jones' rhetoric for

about 5 minutes in the arly 2000s. It's what I call the "Ron Paul Effect". First time one reads or hears something they say: "The Patriot Act is intrusive and an abuse....." I'm all hey yeah i agree with that. Five minutes later "The Columbine Massacre was a false flag...." Then I'm all WTF??!!

[appleannie1]

57. He sceamed, he ranted, he raved, he could not answer 1 question, he shuffled papers, he spewed

droplets of spit and he said nothing that made any sense. In other words he was a rightwing dream.

[No Compromise]

60. He sounds like he was giving a right winger a hard time, that is why I am laughing about this

Corporate media stinks. I think it is hilarious he went after him....

[zappaman]

59. here's a good link

http://dangerousminds.net/comments/alex_jones_is_such_a_fucking_tool

[Lone_Star_Dem]

63. I'll play!

Honestly, Jones doesn't even buy most of the crap he's selling. It's 90% shtick mixed in with 10% possibility equals 100% profit off the gullible.

Now, since you claim to have slow internet and can't watch the video; from Salon I give you Alex Jones' top five wack-a-doodle whoppers from last night.

1. Bloomberg, AP, Reuters, you name it — brag that they’re going to get our guns as well. They’ve taken everybody’s guns, but the Swiss and the American people and when they get our guns, they can have their world tyranny while the government buys 1.6 billion bullets, armored vehicles, tanks, helicopters, predator drones, armed now in U.S. skies, being used to arrest people in North Dakota.

2. The Second Amendment isn’t there for duck hunting. It’s there to protect us from tyrannical government and street thugs.

3. True, we have a higher gun violence level, but overall, muggings, stabbing, deaths — those men raped that woman to India to death with an iron rod four feet long. You can’t ban the iron rods. … I’m here to tell you, 1776 will commence again if you try to take our firearms! It doesn’t matter how many lemmings you get out there in the street begging for them to have their guns taken. We will not relinquish them. Do you understand?

4. You have hoards of people burning down cities and beating old women’s brains out out everyday. They arrest people in England if they defend themselves, that’s on record. My God, you have a total police state. Everybody is fleeing the country because — you’ve had to flee, bud. Yeah, you fled here. Why don’t you go back and face the charges for the hacking scandal?

5. Why did you get fired from the Daily Mirror for putting out fake stories? You’re a hatchet man of the New World Order. … You think you’re a tough guy? Have me back with a boxing ring and I’ll wear red, white, and blue, and you’ll wear your Jolly Roger.

More at link: http://www.salon.com/2013/01/08/alex_jones_brings_the_crazy_to_piers_morgan_show/

His own website is now claiming "armed mafia" are stalking him since the CNN interview. 'Cause you know he once again spilled the beans and set society on it's ear with his uber wise words and brilliant speaking style. By tomorrow I bet he'll be claiming he's being stalked by drones. No wait, weren't drones already stalking him a couple of months ago? Or were they stalking his dog, or mother, or dry cleaner...I can't keep it straight anymore.

[TheMightyFavog]

64. I think the term you are looking to describe what Jones said would be "Word Salad."

It's a common symptom of paranoid schizophrenia.

[doc03]

65. He is one crazy son of a bitch, to think he can carry a gun is scarry. My younger brother listens

to him, he works steady night shift. My brother is always telling me all of his crazy conspiracy theories.

[TheMightyFavog]

67. Alex Jones, Coast to Coast AM...

Why do all these kooky conspiracy shows have to air in the middle of the night?

[zappaman]

71. Because they can't compete in the day time

When you need more than a dozen listeners to stay on the air.
Not to mention, real sponsors...

[No Compromise]

75. Limbaugh and Beck are total crackpots as well, yet they get air time in prime time

Those two are a much bigger threat than Alex Jones who people can easily write off.

Many people actually believe Limbaugh and Beck are smart and the only ones telling them the truth-very scary

[doc03]

72. I used to like to listen to Art Bell, he mainly stuck with UFOs and Big Foot.

George Norri is more of a right winger. I don't know what channel carries that nut Jones and I am not going to look.

[Spazito]

73. Why are you spamming DU with Alex Jones threads? n/t