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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKudos To Howard Fineman Who Just Called S.E.Cupp On Her Statement....
that assault weapons have a use. He called her on that and asked her to give a good use for one and she couldn't and tried to weasel out of the discussion. That's what needs to happen. We can't let people like her make statements that they can't back up.
Ninga
(8,504 posts)know to have that job.....better yet, probably her daddy got her the job. Do.Not.Like.Her.One.Bit
She is two steps above Coulter, which is not saying much.
Thegonagle
(806 posts)without being called out as a BS'er.
Keep them on TV, but make sure they look like the idiots that they are.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)She has just as much right to be on TV or talk as Howard Fineman does. What the fuck country do you live in?
roosterpack
(25 posts)..................that has free fuckin speech.
yeah..................you're technically correct that the bullshit cupp was spewing is protected speech.
but on the otherhand................fuck her and any of the rest of the lying assholes in the media that use their constitutional rights to do as much damage to truth as they can.
nice job by fineman in shooting holes all through her republic party bullshit.
shout 'em down.
that's what do in person.
truth has to be louder.
WeekendWarrior
(1,437 posts)I don't think that's very productive.
How about we have a dialogue and not a shouting match.
global1
(25,764 posts)and she couldn't answer his question. When he pressed her for an answer she changed the subject to weasel out of answering. There was no need for a shouting match like Alex Jones was pulling off in his spot on the Piers Morgan program. It's interesting that the right wing talking heads are more characteristic in initiating a shouting match. Most of the time because they want to intimidate their debating opponent and mostly because they don't have answers.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)give or take. Most were taken up by a calm Piers ..."Alex, alex, alex..." with every increasing hysteria, poor British accent laced, finger in the face emissions by Jones?
Yes, that would describe most of the RWNJ...especially gun nuts.
global1
(25,764 posts)I'm not sure how to do that - but that clip is very telling - it would be great if someone could find that and post it here.
still_one
(94,925 posts)To kill human beings
NewJeffCT
(56,834 posts)"When the Russians, Chinese and North Koreans invade, I'll need my assault weapon to be able to join the Wolverines and beat back the whole invasion with me and a gang of high schoolers."
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)they believe their way is the only way and those who oppose them should get out of their way or just die.
These people don't see all American citizens as Americans. Only those that agree with them are real Americans.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Assault weapons are for gays, environmentalists, professors, feminists, and atheists.
lob1
(3,820 posts)She thought she had a real "gotcha" question.
coldbeer
(306 posts)They were calling her favorite baseball player (Gaylord Perry) a cheater
who did not belong in the Hall of Fame. How low an they go?
I was watching a ballgame. I cannot tolerate Sippy.
coldbeer
(306 posts)She remarked that comparing spitballs to
drugs was unfair.
coldbeer
blogslut
(38,483 posts)Going blam, blam, blam really fast makes her feel[\i] good. That's the "good use". It is selfish. It is shameful.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And you will notice that they are not used in Olympic sports either. The use is competitive shooting.
But as I said, those are not the riffles used in competitive shooting, except the US it seems.
SE Cupp know that? No, not really.
Loudestlib
(980 posts)she is stupid.
Skarbrowe
(1,083 posts)most of the people who have these high powered weapons are just like her. And I also believe that they want these weapons "just in case" more of their "freedoms" are taken away by their own government. They are not stock piling weapons and ammo for a possible foreign invasion. Well, in terms we think of as foreign. I'm sure they think liberals and Democrats are almost foreign enough.
It's more than a wee bit scary.
chazunit
(25 posts)the same thing that I hear from those I know who own these weapons. You are absolutely correct with this.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Government (or liberals...LOL) going to descend on middle to upper class, especially white people, and force them to cease their boring, daily toil from which said government and government workers get their income and taxes, to take them all to the dreaded FEMA camps...where they would just cost money to house and feed? Failing that scenario, enter the UN Men in Blue.
Given that Universe comes into focus with all of its Police State powers intact, exactly what good would a machine gun do (alas, one can only use one at a time) but get one, or one's family, put in a ... remember, in that former paranoid Universe ... Concentration Camp or the like. Hell, we can't afford to feed and house our poor or assist the hurricane victims...so we'll not soon be imprisoning the over-taxed and over-worked class.
Nancy Lanza is a machine gun case in point...or Alex Jones...shrieking and foaming at the mouth about Mao and Stalin and the like. Really. He said he has 50 guns...perhaps he thinks he can call up his own militia? A black, Democratic centrist president. Insanity.
Third Doctor
(1,574 posts)so we can discredit them. I can't really stand to watch Cupp most of the time.
RoverSuswade
(641 posts)But I could see the invisible fumes emanating from his headas he was thinking "what a gopbot"
ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)LynnTTT
(362 posts)I have heard many gun rights people stating that there is no proof that a ban on assault weapons would have saved any lives.
I strongly disagree. I believe that the 20 children and six teachers at Newtown would be alive today if there had been a ban in the last few years on assault weapons.
The killer was a antisocial young man living with his mother in an upscale suburban town. He had no friends and apparently rarely left the area. His mother had in the past few years become somewhat of a "survivalist" and began accumulating many weapons.
This young man did not have the social skills nor the money to go to an underground market and buy the kind of assault weapons that resulted in these deaths. He simply had to stay at home and go to his mother's cache of weapons.
A tragedy on the scale of Newtown could not have been committed by this young man without him having access to these weapons.
samsingh
(17,752 posts)global1
(25,764 posts)This link actually starts with the start of the show. The segment with Fineman starts around the 2:19 minute mark. S.E.Cupp corrects him on the name of the NRA rep that will be at the meeting with Biden tomorrow around the 2:59 minute mark. The actual interchange with S.E.Cupp/Fineman comes around the 5:16 minute mark.
The stupid comment by S.E. Cupp about the usefulness of assault weapons comes at the 7:00 minute mark and goes through the 8:00 minute mark. That is the crucial interchange to watch and the one that I commented on in my original post.
Sorry for this long clip but I don't know how to cut the important part out of it and post it - so I posted this whole thing.
Here's the link: http://video.msnbc.msn.com/the-cycle/50412874#50412874
You got to watch it - because Fineman really put her in her place.
libodem
(19,288 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Krystal Ball, Toure, and Karnacke all get invited to chime in on other MSNBC shows, aka ODonnell, Bashir, Maddow, and Al Shapton, but Sippee Cupp never gets invited? Just shows how little she's respected. Don't know why she doesn't get fired.
Caeser67
(156 posts)That she would be called out on it, and most of the times she never is called out for her BS. So good for Howard.
Proceed.
dballance
(5,756 posts)We used shot guns. If you miss on the first round you're not going to get a second chance. Also, a shot gun is probably the best defensive weapon in your home. It sprays shot all over so you don't have to be an accurate shooter when you are most likely in a panic.
The Wizard
(12,754 posts)because some depraved guy(s) want to look up her skirt.
harmonicon
(12,008 posts)They're used for killing human beings. That's what they're designed to do, and they're very good at doing it.
doc03
(36,263 posts)in mass soon. Maybe they won't pick it up since it doesn't have the word gun in it.
zappaman
(20,607 posts)so that makes it okay!
Some people may need this...
Walk away
(9,494 posts)It's just a living for her. Her positions are as fake as her glasses.
Mosaic
(1,451 posts)Just a pretty face, with glasses. An atheist that supports war criminal w bush, what a freak!