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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThere are many regulations on smoking, cigarettes and their sales, regulation and advertising
There are also regulations on where you can smoke.
Candy that looks like cigarettes are not legal.
There are mandatory warnings on cigarettes and their dangers.
There are significant taxes on cigarettes.
Do you support:
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some weakening of restrictions and reducing the taxes on cigarettes | |
6 (50%) |
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retain the same restrictions and taxes on cigarettes | |
0 (0%) |
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increase the restrictions and taxes on cigarettes in some way | |
6 (50%) |
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Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)And I don't even smoke.
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)It's ridiculous already.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)Do swimming pools have a urinating section? Why not?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)You can't smoke anywhere in any bar or restaurant. In a lot of cities you can't even smoke outside.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)First, there's sidestream smoke. Second, smoking increases healthcare costs which are often borne by society and not just the individual (e.g. medicare).
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)If you don't like smoking then fine, don't smoke.
Just stop trying to impose your private morality on the rest of us.
randome
(34,845 posts)It stinks, it costs a bundle of money (which is a subject in the poll) and it kills people who don't even smoke.
Screw morality. It's a poison.
green for victory
(591 posts)It's a plant. It has "good" qualities and "bad".
FFS When did so many people turn into 7th graders?
Some people still think Cannabis is "evil" and want to eradicate it from the genepool.
Those who demonize Tobacco are in the same pirate boat.
History of Niacin
Niacin was first described by chemist Hugo Weidel in 1873 in his studies of nicotine.[36] The original preparation remains useful: The oxidation of nicotine using nitric acid.[37] Niacin was extracted from livers by biochemist Conrad Elvehjem in 1937, who later identified the active ingredient, then referred to as the "pellagra-preventing factor" and the "anti-blacktongue factor."[38] Soon after, in studies conducted in Alabama and Cincinnati, Dr. Tom Spies found that nicotinic acid cured the sufferers of pellagra
pass all the laws and taxes you want, I'm still going to enjoy my hand rolled organic tobacco. And I'll grow it myself and the government won't be getting a penny. And if I'm really good I'll show a hundred others how to do the same.
And if we're all successful the government will have to find another teat. Imagine that, telling us all it's so very bad while taking a cut of the "poison" every time an addict makes a buy...
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)you don't own a car being that you feel so strongly about things stinking up the environment.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)Warpy
(111,261 posts)and preventing indoor spaces from being fouled with it are both sensible.
Set fire to those things outside, people, we'll get along just fine.
Kurovski
(34,655 posts)Last edited Fri Jan 11, 2013, 05:01 AM - Edit history (2)
quit beatin' the dead horse, take that research money and study pollution.
Let's Tax pollution while we're at it, which may be causing more health problems than cigarettes.
I wonder how many people even realise that auto exhaust contributes to heart disease, and living near a roadway increases cancer in children.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)That is a bad move. As smoking declines (and it still is) there will be less and less funds to support the non-smoking related programs. Its dumb government.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)it wouldn't kill ya.
ProgressiveProfessor
(22,144 posts)But if it is handled properly I understand it will be with us for a while. I am more concerned about dumb moves by government.
What is interesting is that e-cigs, which address second hand smoke and many of the noxious parts about smoking are being banned on airlines and in some European countries. Another dumb move
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Deep13
(39,154 posts)The goal back in the 1980s was a smoke free USA by 2000. Sadly about 15% of people are impressionable enough, insecure enough or just plain stupid enough to do something that is not only deadly and debilitating, but is expensive, disgusting to the point of making smokers social pariahs, and has no positive purpose whatsoever. Seriously, even it were harmless and free, why smoke?
Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)I've smoked the occasional cigar in the past and found that it put me in a very relaxed, contemplative mood.
I've also been told that the ritual actions one performs when smoking can have a calming effect as well, as can the deep breaths taken when smoking (that one came from a psychologist by the way).
And honestly, if your neighbor wants to smoke in his back yard how does it hurt you?
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)are the overbearing nanny types that want to bend everyone to their will.
Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)Like you did in the poll you started this thread about
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240188953#op
where other DUers caught on, including this one:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1240188953#post11
HappyMe
(20,277 posts)CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)You gonna go try to dig up dirt on the DUers who vote in this poll, like you did in the one talked about in the link I posted?
I'm sure those voting in this poll of yours would like to know.
Why don't you tell them?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Skip Intro
(19,768 posts)that would ensue, given your track record and all...
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)It does seem a little...stalkerish, don't you think?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Llewlladdwr
(2,165 posts)I'm just asking if you really research all the folks who respond to your polls. If you do that's cool, but I think it is information your respondents should have.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)do you do that often?
dsc
(52,162 posts)learn something new every day, that said, I think it is a bit much to be starting threads about people who respond to your polls.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Everyone can see.
jeez.
and nevermind that my thread was about a poster who voted in my gungeon poll where nobody should have voted for the first option --and one of the few that did, had NOT A SINGLE DU POST.
so i asked.
and if someone takes wingnut position in my poll (though this poll doesn't have a wingnut position) i just might talk about it.
dsc
(52,162 posts)I generally don't vote in these polls (the exception being ones that are about DU itself) since these 'polls' are voodoo math. I frankly should have been more observant but just wasn't.
obamanut2012
(26,076 posts)on DU3.
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)ElboRuum
(4,717 posts)...however, it's not the restrictions I mind, but the taxes need to either be reduced or a moratorium be placed on their raising.
Regressive taxation only hurts the poorest among us and "sin" taxes like this are precisely regressive.
Kurska
(5,739 posts)In the privacy of your own home only, kept away from children, but easily available to anyone who wants it.
dsc
(52,162 posts)I think the taxes are in many states about as high as can be borne without having a massive black market but their could be more restrictions in some places. I think all states should consider what NC did which is banning smoking in eateries, bars, and other public buildings unless they have rooms shut off with different circulation.
Politicalboi
(15,189 posts)Retain the same restrictions and taxes on cigarettes. Sometimes I don't like the restrictions, but that's the way things have been for almost 20 years now. I have started many conversations with people I may never had talked to if I hadn't gone outside to smoke.
baldguy
(36,649 posts)If it's used properly in the manner intended by the manufacturer, it kills people.
But capitalism has made it seem like a desirable & healthful lifestyle choice. What's wrong with a little truth to counter the corporate propaganda?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Foods like butter and bacon all have nutritional value aside from their fat content. What is the nutritional value of tobacco?
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Wow, that is the best false equivalency I have EVER read. Really, really, really dumb.
Heidi
(58,237 posts)The sale of candy cigarettes, cigars and chew is banned by ordinance in some cities (like St. Paul, Minn.) but in general it is not illegal to buy or sell candy cigarettes in the US. One can easily buy candy cigarettes online at amazon.com and any number of nostalgic candy retailers.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)-
FDA NEWS RELEASE
For Immediate Release: Sept. 22, 2009
Contact: Kathleen K. Quinn, 301-796-4617, kathleen.quinn@fda.hhs.gov
Consumer Inquiries: 888-INFO-FDA
Candy and Fruit Flavored Cigarettes Now Illegal in United States; Step is First Under New Tobacco Law
en Español
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration announced today a ban on cigarettes with flavors characterizing fruit, candy, or clove. The ban, authorized by the new Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act, is part of a national effort by the FDA to reduce smoking in America. Smoking is the leading preventable cause of death in America.
The FDA's ban on candy and fruit-flavored cigarettes, effective today, highlights the importance of reducing the number of children who start to smoke, and who become addicted to dangerous tobacco products. The FDA is also examining options for regulating both menthol cigarettes and flavored tobacco products other than cigarettes.
"Almost 90 percent of adult smokers start smoking as teenagers. These flavored cigarettes are a gateway for many children and young adults to become regular smokers," said FDA Commissioner Margaret A. Hamburg, M.D. "The FDA will utilize regulatory authority to reduce the burden of illness and death caused by tobacco products to enhance our Nation's public health."
Flavors make cigarettes and other tobacco products more appealing to youth. Studies have shown that 17 year old smokers are three times as likely to use flavored cigarettes as smokers over the age of 25.1
"Flavored cigarettes attract and allure kids into lifetime addiction," said U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary for Health Howard K. Koh, M.D., M.P.H. "FDA's ban on these cigarettes will break that cycle for the more than 3,600 young people who start smoking daily."
The FDA is taking several steps to enforce the ban. A letter recently sent to the tobacco industry provided information about the law, and explained that any company who continues to make, ship or sell such products may be subject to FDA enforcement actions.
The FDA has also made available today an advisory to parents on the risks associated with flavored tobacco products.
"Youth are twice as likely to report seeing advertising for these flavored products as adults are," said Dr. Joshua Sharfstein, a pediatrician and the FDA Principal Deputy Commissioner. "Marketing campaigns for products with sweet candy and fruit flavors can mislead young people into thinking that these products are less addictive and less harmful."
The FDA encourages consumers to report continuing sales of flavored cigarettes through a special tobacco hotline (1-877-CTP-1373) and Web site (www.fda.gov/flavoredtobacco).
Parents and consumers can learn more about the risks of flavored tobacco products at http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/GuidanceComplianceRegulatoryInformation/FlavoredTobacco/ucm183196.htm.
Footnote:
1 Klein SM, Giovino GA, Barker DC, Tworek C, Cummings KM, O'Connor RJ. Use of flavored cigarettes among older adolescent and adult smokers: United States, 2004-2005. Nicotine Tob Res. 2008;10(7):1209-14.
Heidi
(58,237 posts)not candy shaped like a cigarette.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)for some reason, I thought there was some sort of regulation on not marketing things that are linked to smoking with respect to children.
but it just seems like they simply are not doing it as much as decades ago.
Heidi
(58,237 posts)I think the reason you don't see candy cigarettes much anymore is because most candy retailers now understand that a kid even "pretend smoking" is pretty creepy and potentially harmful in the long run to impressionable children.
Comrade_McKenzie
(2,526 posts)Capt. Obvious
(9,002 posts)and jailed.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)What kind of illiterate dipshit would oppose loosening regulations on those death sticks?
Christ on a crutch, there are some dumb OPs here today.
The Straight Story
(48,121 posts)We need us some old white rich men to tell us how to live and punish us when we don't obey their laws
Some here like others telling them they will be punished by their choices.
Some of us here are truly pro choice and want to be able to not be sent to jail/etc when we don't make the choices others tell us.
Which person are you?
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)many times, those people are children.
this is not just about your body and your choices but the choices made for those who are exposed.