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The report was prepared by a panel of doctors, epidemiologists, demographers, and other researchers charged by the National Research Council and the Institute of Medicine to better understand Americans' comparative health. They examined when and why people die in the U.S. and 16 other countries, including Australia, Japan, Canada, and nations in Western Europe. The data they pulled -- from such bodies as the World Health Organization and the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development -- already existed, but no one had yet examined it this comprehensively.
The results surprised even the researchers. To their alarm, they said, they found a "strikingly consistent and pervasive" pattern of poorer health at all stages of life, from infancy to childhood to adolescence to young adulthood to middle and old age. Compared to people in other developed nations, Americans die far more often from injuries and homicides. We suffer more deaths from alcohol and other drugs, and endure some of the worst rates of heart disease, lung disease, obesity, and diabetes.
These disproportionate deaths especially affect young people. For three decades, Americans, particularly men, have had either the lowest or near the lowest likelihood of surviving to age 50. The most powerful reasons found for that were homicide, car accidents, other kinds of accidents, non-communicable diseases, and perinatal problems like low birth weight and premature birth, which contribute to high infant mortality.
Among the most striking of the report's findings are that, among the countries studied, the U.S. has:
The highest rate of death by violence, by a stunning margin
The highest rate of death by car accident, also dramatically so
The highest chance that a child will die before age 5
The second-highest rate of death by coronary heart disease
The second-highest rate of death by lung disease
The highest teen pregnancy rate
The highest rate of women dying due to complications of pregnancy and childbirth
The report does reveal bright spots: Americans are more likely to survive cancer or stroke, and if we live to age 75 we're likely to keep on living longer than others. But these advances are dwarfed by the grave shortcomings.
The authors took pains to counteract the possible assumption that U.S. numbers must be negatively skewed by poor and underserved populations. In fact, the report cites data suggesting that even white, well-off Americans live sicker and die sooner than similarly situated people elsewhere. Not that one factor is likely to be able to explain everything. The panelists identified a host of factors: More than other countries, our health care system is fragmented, unaffordable for many people, and short on primary care. Of the countries studied, we have the highest rate of children living in poverty. More of our communities are built around cars, which may discourage exercise.
As individuals, the study found, "Americans are less likely to smoke and may drink less heavily than their counterparts in peer countries, but they consume the most calories per capita, abuse more prescription and illicit drugs, are less likely to fasten seatbelts, have more traffic accidents involving alcohol, and own more firearms." Yet even fit, nonsmoking Americans have higher disease rates than those elsewhere, the report said.
Here's the rub. Reading through the panel's suggested solutions, it's impossible not to notice that a number of these involve public money and policy, and so would have to get through Congress. Many of the core recommendations read like the House Republicans' hit list: affordable health insurance for everyone, programs to encourage healthier behavior (read: nanny state), a stronger public safety net for people in poverty. There's even a hint of gun control.
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/01/new-health-rankings-of-17-nations-us-is-dead-last/267045/
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)The GOP is on the wrong side of health.
denverbill
(11,489 posts)And cost is the most important factor, because the higher the cost, the higher the potential profit. And profit is the point of medical care.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)Nationalize the medical infrastructure.
Nationalize the pharmaceutical companies.
Abolish the health insurance parasites.
Establish preventative care for all.
mnhtnbb
(31,389 posts)d_r
(6,907 posts)saying that the US has a lower violent crime rate than countries like the UK. But this shows that the death rate from violent crime is much higher in the US. Is the difference, that we have less violent crime but it is more likely fatal?
http://sites.nationalacademies.org/DBASSE/CPOP/DBASSE_080393#violence
US is also much higher in auto fatalities
http://sites.nationalacademies.org/DBASSE/CPOP/DBASSE_080393#road-traffic-accidents
pretty high in poisoning
http://sites.nationalacademies.org/DBASSE/CPOP/DBASSE_080393#poisonings
and high in diabetes
http://sites.nationalacademies.org/DBASSE/CPOP/DBASSE_080393#diabetes-mellitus
We'd actually be pretty middle of the road in cancer
http://sites.nationalacademies.org/DBASSE/CPOP/DBASSE_080393#malignant-neoplasms
Japan is really high in stomach and liver cancer; I know alcohol has some to do with that (I'd have expected Denmark to be higher there) but I wonder what else is going on there?
muriel_volestrangler
(101,316 posts)Assault (causing serious bodily injury) is worst, of all OECD countries, in Scotland - 1487 per 100,000 population, and 3rd worst in England and Wales (730) (the UK divides up its crime statistics). In the USA it's 262. Intentional homicide is 5.0 in the USA, 1.6 in Scotland, and 1.1 in England and Wales.
http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crime_stats_oecdjan2012.pdf
Mind you, according to that table, the assault rate in Poland is just 2 per 100,000 population, which I find a little unbelievable. According to the UN source table at http://www.unodc.org/documents/data-and-analysis/statistics/crime/CTS12_Assault.xls , the Polish rate dropped from between 75.9 and 77.6 from 2003-2006 to between 1.4 and 1.6 from 2007-2010, which looks like a redefinition of 'assault', to me. So it's possible there have always been differences in what counts as 'serious' between countries. At least homicide has a far clearer definition. It's also taken from reported cases - again, there may be differences between countries about how much people report assaults to police (eg if you're in a drunken fight, you might not report it).
d_r
(6,907 posts)That is super helpful, thanks
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)I have heard that one reason for the high rate of stomach cancer in Japan may be due to heavy ingestion of salt, especially in the northern parts of the country. Also, smoking may play a role (Japan was a smoker's paradise until recently), as may genetics, the country's high longevity, and the bacterium Helicobacter pylori, which is said to infest 70% of Japanese 40 and older, and 80% of Japanese 50 and older.
http://healthlife.xrea.jp/igan/category1/entry3.html
d_r
(6,907 posts)I was hoping it wasn't sushi
Sarah Ibarruri
(21,043 posts)postulater
(5,075 posts)SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)why?
MEDICARE...
We are a nation that tells people:
"If you win the age-lotto" and make it to 65, we'll help you stay alive..but until then you;re on your own, Bub".
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)Wednesdays
(17,374 posts)woo me with science
(32,139 posts)davesliberal1977_gg
(22 posts)Sadly, at this rate, an implementation of such a system will probably take decades, thanks to the obstructionist GOP, and the corporate Democrats. Gotta love America!
Last Stand
(472 posts)That says it.
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)While bleeding itself to death in order to pay for a fully private medicine "healthcare system", featuring insurance middle men who absorb hundreds of billions a year for doing NOTHING.