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(6,907 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:30 PM Jan 2013

US vs UK Violent crime rates

I'm going to start a new thread about this because I'm hoping to hear some smart folks interpret these data.

I had read on the internet that the UK had a higher violent crime rate than the US. I looked on Google and I think that statistic comes from this:

From that article:

"According to the figures released yesterday, 3.6 per cent of the population of England and Wales were victims of violent crime in 1999 - second only to Australia, where the figure was 4.1 per cent.

Scotland had a slightly lower rate of violence, at 3.4 per cent.

In the U.S., only 2 per cent of the population suffered an assault or robbery."

So that is almost double.

On this forum is a post (http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022168853) that shows a recent report from WHO that compares international death rates in terms of Health Data. From this chart-


It shows that the US death rate from violence was a little over 6.47 per 100,000. In the UK the death rate from violence is 1.14 per 100,000. So that is about 5/6 times higher.

So, assuming that both of these reports are based on sound methodology - and there has to be a lot of error in these data, but assuming both are fairly accurate - and remembering that this are descriptive data, no inferences being drawn here, does one conclude:

Individuals are more likely to experience violent crime in the UK, but fatalities from violent crime are much higher in the US?

ETA and also, the first set of data are from 1999, the second from 2008, so there is a decade difference also.
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US vs UK Violent crime rates (Original Post) d_r Jan 2013 OP
I think you have to look at more than the numbers. upaloopa Jan 2013 #1
good point d_r Jan 2013 #2
another is d_r Jan 2013 #3
That would point to the US having more attacks among a smaller percent of the population Recursion Jan 2013 #4
I'm trying to think that through d_r Jan 2013 #6
One thing to keep in mind. DanTex Jan 2013 #5
more lethal in the US d_r Jan 2013 #7


(11,417 posts)
1. I think you have to look at more than the numbers.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:36 PM
Jan 2013

You need to know what the words represent also.


(56,582 posts)
4. That would point to the US having more attacks among a smaller percent of the population
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:41 PM
Jan 2013

That is, our violence is more frequent, and also more concentrated in a specific subset of the population.


(20,709 posts)
5. One thing to keep in mind.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 05:45 PM
Jan 2013

The definition of what counts as violent crime differs across different countries, so it is not always an apples-to-apples comparison. On the other hand, homicide has a pretty clear definition, so that comparison should be more reliable.

Broadly speaking, violent crime rates in the US are similar to those in Western Europe, but our homicide is a lot larger. A big reason for this is that we have a lot more guns, and crimes committed with guns are much more likely to result in homicide.

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