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grasswire

(50,130 posts)
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:35 PM Jan 2013

Strolling To Display Weaponry -- is this an isolated incident or a trend?

Portland Oregon 1/10/13

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2013/01/second_amendment_supported

Police say two men who were openly carrying assault rifles in Southeast Portland’s Sellwood neighborhood Wednesday were trying to demonstrate their Second Amendment rights and “educate the public”. And while their actions were legal, a Portland Police Bureau spokesman said such a demonstration can divert officers away from possibly more urgent emergency calls.

It can also frighten people.

Steven M. Boyce, of Gresham, and Warren R. Drouin, of Medford, both 22, were spotted by officers about 1:50 p.m. near Southeast Seventh Avenue and Spokane Street. But both have concealed handgun licenses, said Sgt. Pete Simpson, a Portland Police Bureau spokesman. They were not arrested because the rifles remained slung over their shoulders, he added.

Officers warned the duo that the sight of their rifles would generate 9-1-1 calls, but neither man seemed concerned, Simpson said. No shots were fired. The two were also spotted in Gresham near Northeast Fourth Street and Hood Avenue on Wednesday and were allow to go without incident, Gresham police said. Drouin has a YouTube channel where he documents encounters with police while walking with his rifle. He has videos from Eugene, Medford, Bend, Klamath Falls and other cities.

ORS 166.173 gives Oregon cities the authority to regulate possession of loaded firearms in public places. Portland is one of several cities that have imposed such a ban. However, people who have concealed handgun licenses are exempt from that regulation under the same law.

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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
3. Oregon needs to change their law to cover these types of crazy people.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:39 PM
Jan 2013

Young men, age 22, my guess is they play a lot of video games. I had one tell me it made him feel "like a man" to carry and shoot one of these. Crazy stuff, has nothing to do with hunters or ranchers.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
4. If they're going to divert police resources anyway
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:41 PM
Jan 2013

They should have a full police escort as they parade around, with the police "educating the public" by loudspeaker that these two gun nut imbeciles are harmless, if stupid.

Isoldeblue

(1,135 posts)
5. Pretty stupid stunt
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:43 PM
Jan 2013

What if some "Neighborhood Watch" guy with a gun saw them and decided to pick them off to protect the neighborhood.... huh???

If I had seen them, it would have scared the shit out of me and I would have called 911. These guys are not thinking their actions through. It serves no purpose.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
6. I have ex-cop neighbors here in TX that would SURELY
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:47 PM
Jan 2013

come out armed and disarm these asswagons on the spot.

They've detained people for less.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
17. people did call 911, and a pre-school went into lockdown too
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 01:10 AM
Jan 2013

Some of those yahoos WANT to start a shooting war.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
9. Happens in Northern California too. Groups of men (and the rare woman) open carrying to a meetup
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 07:53 PM
Jan 2013

at Starbucks and other such venues just to "demonstrate their 2nd amendment rights." IIRC in this state the weapons can't be loaded so it's a weird gesture.

Paladin

(28,257 posts)
11. Second Amendment Rights, My Ass.
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:10 PM
Jan 2013

Public intimidation of the most blatant sort. Storm trooper fear mongering by a couple of punk 22 year-olds. Want to know how controversial open carry practices are? Some of our most ardent DU Gun Enthusiasts think it's a bad idea, from a PR standpoint. Every time it comes up in the Gun Control/RKBA group, it's argued about.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
12. They'd look silly with Pooh blankets, or binkies hanging out of their mouths,
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jan 2013

so they do the next best thing.

XRubicon

(2,212 posts)
15. I think they are on the same e-mail list
Thu Jan 10, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jan 2013

Gun-toting activist causes scare in Portland, Maine


Michael Winter, USA TODAY 3:51p.m. EST December 25, 2012

He was carrying an unloaded AR-15 assault rifle, which is legal

An "open carry" gun activist caused a scare in Portland, Maine, on Monday after dozens of residents reported a man walking around with an assault rifle like the one used in the Newtown, Conn., school massacre.

Maine allows firearms to be carried openly in public.


http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/24/portland-maine-open-carry-activist-assault-rifle-newtown/1790007/

 

Paul E Ester

(952 posts)
16. Trend started by the Black Panthers
Fri Jan 11, 2013, 12:40 AM
Jan 2013

THE EIGHTH-GRADE STUDENTS gathering on the west lawn of the state capitol in Sacramento were planning to lunch on fried chicken with California’s new governor, Ronald Reagan, and then tour the granite building constructed a century earlier to resemble the nation’s Capitol. But the festivities were interrupted by the arrival of 30 young black men and women carrying .357 Magnums, 12-gauge shotguns, and .45-caliber pistols.

The 24 men and six women climbed the capitol steps, and one man, Bobby Seale, began to read from a prepared statement. “The American people in general and the black people in particular,” he announced, must take careful note of the racist California legislature aimed at keeping the black people disarmed and powerless Black people have begged, prayed, petitioned, demonstrated, and everything else to get the racist power structure of America to right the wrongs which have historically been perpetuated against black people The time has come for black people to arm themselves against this terror before it is too late.

Seale then turned to the others. “All right, brothers, come on. We’re going inside.” He opened the door, and the radicals walked straight into the state’s most important government building, loaded guns in hand.

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/308608/

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