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quinnox

(20,600 posts)
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:26 AM Jan 2012

When did "God Bless America" become a required finishing line?

They always have to say this like its a mandatory line at the end of these kinds of speeches by all politicians. When was the last time that this line was not included it made me wonder. Has a president ever not said God Bless America at the end of a state of the union speech?

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When did "God Bless America" become a required finishing line? (Original Post) quinnox Jan 2012 OP
I don't know, but honestly SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #1
A little candy before you put the kiddies to bed. wtmusic Jan 2012 #2
Sounds lije the kiddies are upset about the prez saying the word "God". RegieRocker Jan 2012 #21
They legislated it on coins and put it in the Pledge of Allegiance in the fifties. Maybe then. nt valerief Jan 2012 #3
From the New York Times jayschool Jan 2012 #4
thanks. interesting article quinnox Jan 2012 #6
Lincoln was almost certainly a Deist just like most of the founding fathers Major Nikon Jan 2012 #12
reagan made it pretty much mandatory. god's been in the closing lines one way or another ever since unblock Jan 2012 #5
thanks for that quinnox Jan 2012 #7
Perhaps he's sincere JohnnyRingo Jan 2012 #8
I agree with you 110% BlueCaliDem Jan 2012 #10
There's no reason to suspect he isn't Major Nikon Jan 2012 #13
When Richard Viguire said it was Stinky The Clown Jan 2012 #9
When leaders were replaced by hucksters. Sometime, late in '63, I believe. K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #11
That's easy: Reagan. no_hypocrisy Jan 2012 #14
No one really questioned Carters "Christianity" Sheepshank Jan 2012 #23
When God's ad-men began making campaign contributions. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #15
I don't believe the Republican response ended with that line.. Bandit Jan 2012 #16
It's a no-lose proposition. Nye Bevan Jan 2012 #17
case 3: we're making Poseidon very angry foo_bar Jan 2012 #19
Even as an Atheist, I don't Care Much About That NeedleCast Jan 2012 #18
My husband always follows God Bless America... a la izquierda Jan 2012 #20
I hear it all the time from each POTUS, but when Obama says is..... Sheepshank Jan 2012 #22
Pandering whatchamacallit Jan 2012 #24
It's got the flag worshippers' favorite jackoff words. Iggo Jan 2012 #25

valerief

(53,235 posts)
3. They legislated it on coins and put it in the Pledge of Allegiance in the fifties. Maybe then. nt
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:30 AM
Jan 2012

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
12. Lincoln was almost certainly a Deist just like most of the founding fathers
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:48 AM
Jan 2012

So if you dig into the history a bit more, it really gets interesting in how that phrase has been perverted.

I get a chuckle out of the historical revisionist GOP nutbags who ignorantly proclaim that the US is a "Christian nation" and as proof for their poorly researched assertion they offer up the references to a higher power found in early political leaders' writings. The higher power in that Deists believed does not in any way resemble the imaginary friend that the fundies pretend to converse. If the US were a nation of Deists, we wouldn't be burdened with all the problems fundies have created.

unblock

(56,181 posts)
5. reagan made it pretty much mandatory. god's been in the closing lines one way or another ever since
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:37 AM
Jan 2012

a simple "thank you" was generally more common prior to reagan, with carter, ford, and kennedy giving god a mention once each.

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/01/22/will-obamas-state-of-the-union-rise-above-the-cliches-of-a-stal/

The truth is that almost every rhetorical conceit in a State of the Union address is recycled. John Kennedy, a president who endorsed a strict separation between church and state, ended his 1962 speech by saying, "And in this high endeavor, may God watch over the United States of America." God's next cameo came in 1977 when Jerry Ford (who might have heard a sneeze in the audience) ended his address to Congress by saying, "Good night. And God bless you." Jimmy Carter concluded all his State of the Unions with a simple "thank you." In 1982 (the same year that he began a State of the Union tradition by introducing heroes from the balcony), Ronald Reagan combined the Ford and Carter endings by saying, "God bless you and thank you." By 1984, Reagan slipped into full Kate-Smith-singing-Irving-Berlin mode when he declared, "God bless you and God bless America."

No president has departed from this seventh-inning-stretch formula since then with the exception of Bill Clinton in 1999. Facing an impeachment trial in the Senate, Clinton went with this wordy coda: "Let us lift our eyes as one nation, and from the mountaintop of this American Century, look ahead to the next one, asking God's blessing on our endeavors and on our beloved country. Thank you, and good evening."

JohnnyRingo

(20,842 posts)
8. Perhaps he's sincere
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 12:43 AM
Jan 2012

I can't read his mind, but coming from the man who refused to don a flag pin when intimidated, I can give him the benefit of the doubt, and assume he may have deep Christian values that inspire the wish that God may bless America.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. I agree with you 110%
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:06 AM
Jan 2012

I almost forgot he refused to don a flagpin when the right griped about it.

Obama's made no secret that he's a Christian with deep Christian beliefs, so I believe he means it when he says it. It's sincere, unlike with Bush OR people like Newtie.

Major Nikon

(36,925 posts)
13. There's no reason to suspect he isn't
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 02:32 AM
Jan 2012

Obama was a member of a Christian church for a decade before he ever got into politics.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
23. No one really questioned Carters "Christianity"
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:42 PM
Jan 2012

he didn't have to prove anything.

I can hear the RW militants and fundies protesting now, should Obama not say such a thing.

Bandit

(21,475 posts)
16. I don't believe the Republican response ended with that line..
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:03 AM
Jan 2012

I did not hear Daniels say that and actually was quite surprised..

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
17. It's a no-lose proposition.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:06 AM
Jan 2012

Case 1: if there *is* a God, perhaps He happens to be listening, and will, indeed, bless America.

Case 2: if there is no God, nothing will happen.

So it seems that the only possible results are positive or neutral. So might as well say it.

foo_bar

(4,193 posts)
19. case 3: we're making Poseidon very angry
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jan 2012

see:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_inconsistent_revelations

case 4: there *is* a (Judeo-Christian-Muslim?) god(s), and he/she is actively pissed off at politicians and/or football quarterbacks taking his/her/its name in vain by asking him/her/it to take sides against specific granfalloons and varieties of human nationalism.

see:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager ("Criticism&quot

case 5: there is no consensus-religion notion of god, and politicians are merely pandering to man's basest instincts, thus the "god bless the US" talk beginning with Reagan is actually a jingoistic slogan intended to distract us from our collective failings as a society.

NeedleCast

(8,827 posts)
18. Even as an Atheist, I don't Care Much About That
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 10:11 AM
Jan 2012

With the understanding that a black, homosexual women will get elected president in the US before a white, male, atheist does, these are the bits of religious minutia that don't bother me much. They're inevitable in a country that's population self-identifies as 78% Christian.

As a person who was brought up southern Baptist, I still say things like "god damn it!" or use the exclamation "God!" sometime without even being aware of it.

a la izquierda

(12,313 posts)
20. My husband always follows God Bless America...
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jan 2012

with "...and no one else," which comes from the movie Head of State.


Cracks him up, every time.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
22. I hear it all the time from each POTUS, but when Obama says is.....
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jan 2012

....I get the distinct impression, it's a bit of a dig back to the "he's a Moslem" crowd.

Now that may just simply be my own paradigm, but there ya go. If I think it, surely someone else is thinking it too. I'm not usually that unique of a thinker.

Iggo

(49,905 posts)
25. It's got the flag worshippers' favorite jackoff words.
Wed Jan 25, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jan 2012

God and America.

(unh...unh...unh...unh...)

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