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Yes, it is possible for a man to be "pro-choice". | |
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No, men can support the cause, but they should not call themselves "pro-choice". | |
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Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)The choice however isn't ultimately for men to make, either.
Flashmann
(2,140 posts)I am....Always have been.....
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Having a penis disqualifies you from having an opinion on the subject at all. That's what I've been told here the past couple of days.
It's kind of nice not to have to care about it anymore. Liberating even.
CTyankee
(65,557 posts)the attitude you have described. All the men in my family would describe themselves as pro-choice and we have no problem with it, and indeed think highly of them. Being prochoice means that a man would not interfere with a woman's right to choose, that these decisions are those of individual women.
Your second statement carries a good deal of snark. Why do you carry that around?
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)A couple reasons. 1) The dismissive attitude toward my opinion on the subject. 2) It's fun.
If I'm not going to be taken seriously simply because of my genitals what's the difference if I take a less than serious attitude about it?
For the record, I am pro-choice. But I do have definite opinions on the use of abortion for gender selection and the like. There have been a few threads on these subjects the past couple days.
CTyankee
(65,557 posts)decision maker on whether or when to have a child. As for sex selection, you can be against a system that pretty much forces women to make a decision to abort on the basis of the fetus's sex. But essentially that view would support, not deny, a woman's choice, by leaving the decision up to her.
I am not sure what you mean, then, about your opinions on use of abortion for sex selection. Are you saying that a woman should NOT have that option by law, or you simply deplore a woman's decision to abort for that reason?
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Because a restriction in that circumstance leads to restrictions on legitimate reasons to leep it legsl. But I reject the notion that it's perfectly fine to do so. Yes, I deplore the idea. To me, it's against the spirit of why it's legal. "Legal, safe and rare" is the mantra, terminating simply because you don't like the gender is not in that spirit. I find it repulsive.
But, again, I am pro-choice even if it means having to accept the truly ugly sides of it.
CTyankee
(65,557 posts)doing it, at least when I worked for a family planning clinic that did abortions it never came up as a reason women gave for opting for abortion. I know that there have been various theories about increasing the odds of conceiving a female or a male but not any actual instances of women seeking an abortion after finding out the sex of her fetus (not in China or India).
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)But I would hope the percentage was very, very low. I have read about it being somewhat commonplace in Scandinavia where it's a deliberate decision rather than forced as it is in China and other places.
Regardless, I just find it to be a really shitty reason to have an abortion. I don't have to think it's acceptable or just keep quiet about it simply because I'm not a woman or will never be pregnant. That's all I'm saying.
CTyankee
(65,557 posts)considered the premier research organization used by city and state health departments all over the country. They do research on abortions in countries all over the world.
My guess is that the pro-choice movement in this country suspects that the "sex selection for abortion" is really a "wedge" issue in the attempt to curtail any abortions.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Because, as I said, they would use that restriction as an excuse to start doing more and more.
Can't give them an inch.
CTyankee
(65,557 posts)really offering any verifiable proof. So they blow this thing up to make people think this is really, really a common reason that women have abortions.
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)They'll do anything to outlaw it, underhanded or not. But then they are the same exact people that will tell those forced birth children to starve to death if the parent(s) can't afford to feed them. No mooching you know, the rich need that money for a second yacht or seventh home.
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)This is like asking whether a person in New York could have been a proponent of building the Hoover Dam.
Pro-choice is a value enshrined or undermined in LAW.
LAWS are made by both men and women.
Why not ask whether a free person can be anti-slavery? It's the same question.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)and without looking in a dictionary, I know men who don't want children, never wanted children, and are happy without them. They figure there must be women who don't want them either who don't want to join a convent and don't want to live without sex.
These same men admire women who are good mothers and love their kids.
I call that pro-choice in my world.
Bay Boy
(1,689 posts)we just don't get much say in the matter
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)You have a choice to choose abortion or you have a choice to choose not to have an abortion. We have to stop saying pro this or anti this because we all have a choice.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)
bowens43
(16,064 posts)wryter2000
(47,671 posts)This is getting a bit disturbing. There are plenty of good men here. I don't see why they have to be belittled when 'they're more than willing to let the not-so-good ones know when they're being not-so-good.
I'm a woman, btw, and a feminist. As far as I'm concerned, men can't be women (and experience sexism directly), but they can be feminists. (Should have posted this in the other thread.)
LisaLynne
(14,554 posts)Just like with racial divides. As a white person, I will never know what it is to really experience the type of racism that goes on in this country directly, but I can certainly support equality for all.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)He was an ultra conservative and seemed to support eugenics and social Darwinism. His view was more abortions by poor women meant fewer people on welfare that his taxes would have to support.
I also think he called himself pro-abortion because if he ever got a girl pregnant he would demand that she get an abortion, lest he have any financial responsibility.
Yeah, real prize he was, and he transferred to another school the next year.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I suspect the OP is mirroring that argument.
HERVEPA
(6,107 posts)War Horse
(931 posts)But I'm pretty sure I can still be pro-choice.
CTyankee
(65,557 posts)family are feminists, and proudly so. They wouldn't have it any other way and neither would their female partners/wives.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Of course it is. This has nothing to do with your other poll. This is stupid.
Politicub
(12,309 posts)And, supporting legislation that preserves the rights of women to make their own decisions about their bodies.
Pretty simple, really.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)Sadly, a womens right to control her own body and reproductive health is a political issue (it shouldn't be, but it is) .... as such, we need support of all people!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Quantess
(27,630 posts)...this week, anyway.
This is stupid, boneheaded, unwilling-to-understand, WAAAAAH garbage.
samsingh
(17,962 posts)frogmarch
(12,236 posts)Mr. froggy and our two sons are all pro-choice. I know other men who are too.