Limbaugh: the planet hasn't been warming, because it was 27 degrees in San Diego this morning

[Welcome_hubby]

I quote the dumbass' comment he made today in his show:

""Twenty-seven degrees outside San Diego right now, 27 degrees, and they're talking about global warming".

Someone tell Limbaugh that San Diego is not the globe and a temperature one day in a city is not a long-term trend.


More info here: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2013/01/11/conservatives-once-again-cite-extreme-cold-to-d/192202

[Spider Jerusalem]

1. And it's not "global warming", it's "climate change"

which means climatic variation and extreme weather in both directions.

[Welcome_hubby]

9. It's also global warming

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Because the planet has been warming. the fact that extreme exists does not deny the fact that the planet has been warming.

[Spider Jerusalem]

11. Sure, but climate change is more relevant

below freezing in San Diego is not exactly normal weather.

[Jackpine Radical]

32. Rather the contrary.

As I cheerfully point out to any of those Cold in San Diago, Hot in Alaska types, what GW is about is introducing more energy nto the system in quite erratic ways, with the result that the variance increases much more dramatically than the mean. Crazy weather is exactly what's predicted by the theory, and every such example is in fact a further validation of GW theory. If they don't know what statistical variance is, I politely suggest that they get themselves an education before presuming to flaunt their ignorant opinions in public.

[ananda]

57. Agree.

I either say global warming, or BOTH global warming and climate change.

[A HERETIC I AM]

91. How about "Human accelerated global climate change."? n/t

[AverageJoe90]

97. A bit unwieldy but accurate. =) n/t

[A HERETIC I AM]

98. How about....

HAGcuhcuh?

(HAGCC)

[niyad]

37. I believe the term now being used is "catastrophic climate change" C3 (heard this first

at the copenhagen summit

[gollygee]

2. It was 43 degrees and raining this morning in Michigan

Crazy weather.

[Tempest]

3. You can't teach Limpballs and his ilk anything. Their minds are closed. n/t

[Skidmore]

93. Limbaugh has fried his brain on Oxycontin and his followers

are either willfully ignorant, or plain old don't give a tinker's damn about anything beyond themselves.

[Tempest]

94. Manufactured outrage is a cottage industry the right have control over

And it works on the low information, low effort non-critical conservative thinkers.

[a geek named Bob]

4. Everytime Limbo says a new stupid thing, I'm sure that he's cornered the market on Stupid...

and then he yet again surprises me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Better keep Rush away from the local mountains.

[rustydog]

6. What does Mr. Viagra- seeking sex fiend know about global warming?

[nyquil_man]

7. He's also contended that the melting of the ice caps would not cause land to flood.

I believe he compared it to ice melting in the glass.

Hang on, let me rephrase that.

He's an idiot.

[Speck Tater]

8. Once a moron, always a moron. nt

[Tempest]

10. Moultonborough, NH saw 40 degrees this week.

And rain.

Should be in the teens with a lot of snow.

Lake Winnipesaukee hasn't even frozen over yet and should have starting in November.

[TheCowsCameHome]

15. Winnisquam looked like summer on New Years Eve.

barely a trace of ice, and then only near the edges........

[Tempest]

18. Burlington, VT: 40s and rain, should be teens and snow. n/t

[Agschmid]

24. Same in Rochester NY. n/t

[Zoeisright]

50. Same in Minneapolis MN.

40 degrees, rain, and dense fog.

[AverageJoe90]

67. Average high in Burlington is 27, says NOAA.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burlington,_Vermont#Climate

Yeah, 40 is a tad on the high side, that is true, but it's not that terribly out of the ordinary, either.

Also, here's Weather.com's observations:

http://www.weather.com/weather/monthly/USVT0033

As you can see, Burlington's weather hasn't been that abnormal this winter, thankfully(well, so far).

[Tempest]

86. Abnormal enough that my friends there are complaining

The lakes haven't frozen over and they can't go skiing on them as they usually do.

[Tempest]

26. Do you live there? It's one of the areas I'm looking at to move to in May.

If so, what can you tell me about it regarding reasonable housing?

[TheCowsCameHome]

29. It's a nice area, but I don't live there

I've spent a fair amount of the in the Lakes Region, came close to moving there several times, I really think the winters (historically speaking) would do me in.

I had one friend that lives just north of Winnipesaukee all year-round tell me to forget it until I'd spent at least one (again, typical) winter there.

I l do love that country and the people in that area, though.

Good luck with your plans.

[Tempest]

38. I spent 14 years in Alaska. Winters in NH will be a breeze.

I've done some scouting of the area and it looks like a lot of permanent residents and summer homes. Not good for someone looking to rent a house.

[AverageJoe90]

65. Moultonborough's average high is 29 in January, according to records.....

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Moultonborough+NH+USNH0151:1:US

So, yeah, it's not that unusual to have a few days like this, even in January. Also, according to the link I just posted, you guys should be going back down into the '20s later on during the 10-day period.

[Aristus]

12. And the sun doesn't really exist because it was dark last night.

Makes about as much sense. Idiot...

[CreekDog]

13. It was 44F in San Diego, which is only a few degrees below normal

it was 25F in Escondido, a suburb at higher altitude with a more desert like climate, still only 10F below normal for that location.

so he doesn't know what he's talking about. he's not even referring to the same place.

[niyad]

46. I have actually been in SD when the HIGH was about 30--and I seemed to be the only person

there with a winter coat. brrrrrrr. of course, I have also been there when it was 104 one labour day weekend. weird.

[CreekDog]

58. I dont think the high in San Diego has ever been 30

Maybe 45...maybe a little higher.

The coldest high in SF ever is about 35 or 36 for reference.

Just FYI

[niyad]

62. and just for your information:

since I was there, I actually do know whereof I speak.

. . .



The record high temperature at the National Weather Service office in San Diego of 111 °F (44 °C) was on September 26, 1963. The record low temperature was 25 °F (−4 °C) on January 7, 1913.[3] The record high temperature was tied only once and happened on September 27, 2010, 47 years and two days after the set record. Several temperatures near San Diego broke their all-time records that day.[4]

. . . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_of_San_Diego

[CreekDog]

72. Actually, you don't know...the high has never been 30 in San Diego

The lowest maximum in fact, hasn't been less than 50 since 1949. The lowest maximum since then has been 50.

In fact, not only has the high temperature never been 30 (at least not the history of weather records...), a low temperature of 30 hasn't occurred since 1949.

You were wrong there too.

As for the high temperature in San Diego, I didn't argue with you. 104 is on the high side for San Diego, but has been exceeded at least a few times.

http://www.wrcc.dri.edu/cgi-bin/cliMAIN.pl?ca7740
-to see the extreme low maximums, scroll down on the left to Period of Record Data Tables and click Daily Summary Stats (~55 KB)

[CreekDog]

111. the data says that such an instance hasn't happened in recorded history

were you outside San Diego?

are you estimating the temperature?

a high of 30 in the city of San Diego is so far-fetched it's not even plausible as a one time event or record.

remember, in recorded weather data since 1915, the lowest HIGH temperature is 46!

[rppper]

107. It snowed while I was there for...

...a naval electronics school right after boot camp...first week of December...88 or 89...we actually stole a snowman out of someone's yard in the mountains outside Escondido and took it back to the barracks at NTC San Diego...it stood for nearly a week...dressed it up with a stolen CPO hat and anchors!

Not trying to prove or disprove anything here....just sharing a sea story...I think it's natures cycle but I strongly believe we're accelerating it...

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. He's done that before.

Cited a random below-normal temperture reading somehwhere, and declared climate change a hoax.

He is the biggest asshole on the face of the planet.

When he croaks, I hope they let him rot in the hot sun.

[Tempest]

19. And it wasn't even San Diego's temperature

It was a higher altitude suburb.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

53. You've got that right.

The VERY worst thing to ever slouch down the pike.

[raging_moderate]

16. ...and there is no such thing as undernourished or hungry populations....

because there's this this one fat guy with a microphone in Florida.

[Tempest]

20. Best comment of the day. Welcome to DU! n/t

[2naSalit]

42. Indeed...

this, of course, is the myopic view of person whose layers of tallow under flesh around his face act like horse blinders.

[Siwsan]

17. Well, tomorrow it's supposed to be about 60, in Flint, Michigan. In January.

We're at 53, right now, at 7:15pm on January 11. Some of my spring flowers are starting to poke up through the garden soil. Tomorrow I'm heading out to buy some bags of dirt so I can get them back underneath the ground before the next freeze hits on Monday.

Last year I had daffodils blooming in February.

I have no doubt about climate change.

[Tempest]

21. Same thing happened in NY and Washington, DC last year

Trees and plants started blooming in January.

[Jackpine Radical]

36. In central & northern WI we had temps in the 70's & 80's last March.

Not just a day or 2, but weeks of it. The apple trees bloomed, then froze in a coldish April, & the crop was 75% destroyed for the year.

[AverageJoe90]

69. Indeed. Happened down here in Texas too.

Thankfully, this seems to have been just a hell of a crazy outlier, and I doubt we'll see another event like this for a long time to come.(of course, I can concede that stranger things have happened before.....and, yes, including things that even climate change can't fully explain; for example, who could have predicted back to back heatwaves in 2011 & 2012? If that isn't an unlucky coincidence, then wha tis?)

[sad-cafe]

22. Rush Limbaugh is a disgusting

piece of fecal matter.

[former9thward]

23. That San Diego weather is heading into Phoenix Saturday.

It is supposed to be the coldest four day period since the 1980s. I am not looking forward to it since my place does not even have a furnace.

[CreekDog]

34. San Diego wasn't as cold as Limbaugh said, not even significantly below average

44F this morning, compared to a mean minimum of 49F.

tomorrow's forecasted 36F is higher than the record low for that date and the day after, so not unprecedented.

meanwhile, on average, the trend nationwide has been for higher minimum temperatures over the long term.

And furthermore, this trend is especially pronounced in Phoenix itself, where the average minimums have increased from the 30's on January nights 50 years ago to the mid 40's now and from the 70's on July nights 50 years ago the middle 80's now.

Incredible warming there.

Four days of cold weather will not offset the larger trend.

[AverageJoe90]

64. Citations please?

Uh.....regular lows in the 70s in the '60s to middle 80s now in Phoenix? I'll need to see some citations for that; the world has only warmed about slightly over half a degree or so since the 1960s......(though if it checks out, it certainly couldn't all be due to climate change alone; Phoenix has grown quite considerably since the days of JFK.)

[CreekDog]

74. okay, here's Phoenix (and I didn't say global warming or growth --I said it's hotter)

and it is.

Phoenix January Averages:
(based on 30 year averages):
mean maximum/mean minimum:

1941-70 64.7/38.1
1951-80 65.2/39.4
1961-90 65.9/41.2
1971-00 67.3/44.8
1981-10 67.2/45.6

Phoenix July averages:
(based on 30 year averages):
mean maximum/mean minimum:

1941-70 104.7/77.6
1951-80 105.0/79.5
1961-90 105.9/81.0
1971-00 106.6/82.9
1981-10 106.1/83.5

[AverageJoe90]

76. I see now.

Okay then. Just checking.

[LeftInTX]

25. Let's turn off Rush's A/C

And when he complains send in a sham crew to fix it.

[thelordofhell]

27. Meanwhile in Australia........

They have to invent new colors to represent the record temperatures there

[Tempest]

41. 70 degrees above normal in Sydney this week. n/t

[AverageJoe90]

71. 70 degrees?

Last I checked, Sydney's average high in January is in the lower '80s. I assume you meant 7*C above normal, right?

[Tempest]

84. It went from 40 degrees to 109 in a matter of days. n/t

[AverageJoe90]

95. I don't think so.

Are you sure about that? This is Sydney, in January, when the high is usually around 80 by the harbor.....and in fact, the record low for Sydney for that same month is 51.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney#Climate

Maybe you're thinking of somewhere else in N.S.W.?

[Democratopia]

28. That he has so many followers, shows Limbaugh is a commentary on an ugly, ignorant part of America.

[Tempest]

44. He doesn't have as many as advertised

His listenership numbers come from his press agent.

Radio listener numbers by show are not calculated by any organization, just gross listener numbers for radio as a whole (Arbitron).

[Democratopia]

47. I'm just unlucky. All my wife's family are Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck fans!

[Tempest]

54. So were all my co-workers. Had to listen to his spew for 10 hours a day for years. n/t

[Angry Dragon]

30. he is just a Florida entertainer

[Tempest]

45. And Florida doctor shopper. n/t

[Politicalboi]

31. Tonight in Lancaster Ca

It is supposed to be 19 degrees and 18 tomorrow night with no rain or snow in sight.

[smirkymonkey]

33. It's supposed to be 60 degrees in Boston this weekend.

It's January! Not normal.

Of course, when your head is up your ass, the temperature is always constant.

[fascisthunter]

35. he makes money off of playing people like the fools they are

his listeners are the dumbest, stupidest, vilest human beings and he makes a living entertaining them. Think about it... what kind of person could possibly do something like that, I'm sure history has a list of folks like him. But it's the fools who follow his shit... they are some really damaged human beings... not just dumb, but angry, hateful fucks.

[Democratopia]

49. You are talking about my wife's family!

[fascisthunter]

51. sorry

[Democratopia]

52. I'm not really offended. The whole thing is heart-breaking to me.

[fascisthunter]

56. Well, I still feel bad...

...because part of what I said was more out of anger and frustration. It's that line we draw for ourselves... funny thing is, conservatives tend to draw that line way too soon. I just don't have much more patience nor understanding for them. For a drunk, homeless person, drug addict... I do. Once it's separated from politics, and is connected to real life issues, then I feel for folks, and yes, many of those who follow this Rush's hate-filled propaganda do suffer from the above, but they made a decision to lash out.

You are not alone... and I'm just venting. My words should be as meaningful to you as graffiti on a wall.

[Cleita]

39. Actually, if he knew anything about it, that low of a temperature in San Diego is

a sign of climate change. It's just not the usual winter temperature for So. Cal.

[niyad]

40. in colorado springs, the lilac trees are starting to bud--lilacs, in january (with highs this past

week of 55 (of course, around here, that is not actually abnormal) very little snow, and the idiots at utilities are actually (may wonders never cease) talking about water restrictions this year. of course, the city council is about to approve fracking--despite there being no water here.

the stupid--there are no words. . .

[RebelOne]

43. Well, it is 72 degrees here in the Atlanta area

and temperature to be 73 on Saturday. It has never been this warm in January.

[GoCubsGo]

82. I'm three hours east of you...

They're predicting that it might reach 80 here on Sunday.

[Zoeisright]

48. He gets fucking dumber every day.

And he certainly is proof that only the good die young.

[haele]

55. Probably talking about the County - which is bigger than Massachuttsets, at least.

And we have not only the "sunny" beach city of San Diego where but for a one or two days a year, it doesn't get below 40 degrees in the city itself, but 20 miles from the ocean, we have mountains between 3 and 5K feet, where it sometimes snows during the winter and can get pretty damn cold. Especially when we get a winter storm sweeping down from the Pacific Northwest.

Kinda like comparing the weather in upstate NY with New York City.

Haele

[Initech]

59. And he lives in Miami, Florida - it's as close to the equator as San Diego is.

[rppper]

60. in words co-opted from Alan Grayson....

die you fat f@ck pedophile...and do it quickly......

[alp227]

61. Rush keeps talking himself down to irrelevancy.

Every ignorant statement of his contributes to the McDonaldization of radio. Keep in mind that the leading "news/talk" station in a certain market carries Rush live! I can't decide what's worse, McDonald's food or big news/talk stations that proudly carry Rush.

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. Hide from him the latest NWS frost warning.

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
545 PM PST FRI JAN 11 2013

...VERY COLD NIGHTS WITH FROST AND FREEZING TEMPERATURES THE NEXT
FEW MORNINGS...

.AREAS OF FROST AND BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES TONIGHT THROUGH
TUESDAY MORNING IN ALL AREAS WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS AND THE LOWER
DESERTS. SATURDAY NIGHT APPEARS TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT AT THIS
TIME WITH A HARD FREEZE LIKELY IN SOME AREAS.

CAZ048-050-121200-
/O.CAN.KSGX.FZ.A.0002.130113T0800Z-130113T1600Z/
/O.EXT.KSGX.FZ.W.0001.130112T0800Z-130113T1600Z/
SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE-
SAN DIEGO COUNTY VALLEYS-
545 PM PST FRI JAN 11 2013

...FREEZE WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 8 AM PST
SUNDAY...
...FREEZE WATCH IS CANCELLED...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN DIEGO HAS CANCELLED THE
FREEZE WATCH.

* LOCATION...ALL VALLEYS.

* TEMPERATURES...BELOW FREEZING TONIGHT IN MANY AREAS WITH LOWS
FROM 22 TO 28 DEGREES IN THE COLDEST VALLEYS. EVEN COLDER
SATURDAY NIGHT WITH A HARD FREEZE LIKELY WITH LOWS FROM 20 TO 26
IN THE COLDEST VALLEYS. ELEVATED TERRAIN AND MOUNTAIN PASSES MAY
BE SEVERAL DEGREES WARMER.

* DURATION...MORE THAN 8 HOURS OF BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES
WITH UP TO 5 HOURS OF TEMPERATURES BELOW 28 DEGREES.

* IMPACTS...SENSITIVE PLANTS AND CROPS MAY BE DAMAGED OR KILLED IF
UNPROTECTED.

* OUTLOOK...CONTINUED COLD SUNDAY AND MONDAY NIGHTS...BUT
INCREASING OFFSHORE WINDS WILL LIMIT THE EXTENT OF THE BELOW
FREEZING TEMPERATURES TO THE WIND SHELTERED AREAS. NOT QUITE AS
COLD TUESDAY NIGHT BUT STILL FALLING BELOW FREEZING IN SOME
AREAS. WARMER WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WARNING MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE IMMINENT OR
HIGHLY LIKELY. THESE CONDITIONS WILL KILL CROPS AND OTHER
SENSITIVE VEGETATION.

&&

$$
It's sciency stuff.

[riverbendviewgal]

101. WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

K & R

[lpbk2713]

66. It's January for crisakes

Does he have any global warming bullshit in August? Not a peep.


The simple minded fuck assumes everyone is as utterly stupid as he is.

[OldDem2012]

68. 2012....hottest year since records have been kept. nt.

[AverageJoe90]

70. Indeed so.

But Rush is a complete moron.....what else have we come to expect from him?

Indeed, any one single weather event, of any extreme, is not necessarily indicative of a long-term trend, whether it was the back-to-back heatwaves of 2011 & 2012, Hurricane Sandy(also from last year), the cold wave of '96, or the Miss. River Flood of '93, etc.

(What I can say, though, is that increasing amounts of research is showing evidence that we may actually seeing quite a bit of global "weirding".....I forget who coined the term, though)

[Amonester]

73. Or someone tell the idiot master San Diego isn't Sidney...

"Catastrophic" Heat Wave Burning Up Australia

Sydney—Australia's most populated city—is now waking up to what may be its hottest day on record in 150 years, up to 110 degrees, creating conditions that the premier of that state, Barry O'Farrell, said could be "the worst fire danger day this state has ever faced." The threat is being met with "catastrophic" fire warnings that fires have the potential to cause significant loss of life and destroy many homes. Residents are being told to leave early from high-risk areas.

According to updates from the Sydney Morning Herald, more than 100 130 fires were burning across that state. Twenty-one Forty were uncontained.

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2013/01/catastrophic-heat-wave-burning-australia

Or Sidney doesn't even exists for any of his kool-aid drinkers....

[AverageJoe90]

75. Probably not. He probably thinks Australia is full of just kangaroos and Steve Irwin lookalikes.....

Lulz. /snark.

[Turbineguy]

77. Rush Limbaugh is

used toilet paper.

[WinkyDink]

78. Rush Limbaugh speaks for his masters. He is fully aware of reality, people.

[hobbit709]

79. If Oxycontin Boy said it was raining, I'd look out the window before believing him.

[SoCalDem]

80. We need a new term... My choice ..."Climate Chaos"

That covers all possibilities..and is more accurate anyway.

[AverageJoe90]

96. IDK, about climate "chaos".

"Global weirding" doesn't sound as cool, but it's definitely a lot more accurate at the moment.

[GoCubsGo]

81. It's THIRTY degrees above normal where I live.

And, if you ever manage to get off your blubbery backside walk outside, you'll discover it's 30 degrees warmer than normal where you are, too, you drug-addled asshole.

[AverageJoe90]

100. Rush was in Florida, last I checked. n/t

[GoCubsGo]

103. Yep.

It's abnormally warm there, too.

[AverageJoe90]

108. Somewhat so, yeah.

It was supposed to be in the mid 80s down in Miami last I checked.

[GoCubsGo]

109. Nope.

They don't normally see mid-80s in Miami until May: http://www.weather.com/weather/wxclimatology/monthly/graph/USFL0316

[AverageJoe90]

110. Yes, I knew that already, TBH.

Miami's average high in Jan. is about 75 or so last I checked.

Also, it looks like the high over there only hit 80 today, if the Weather Channel's accurate:

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Miami+FL+USFL0316:1:US

[NickB79]

83. And it's 129F in Australia

So hot the roads are buckling and half the fucking continent is on FIRE.

[spanone]

85. a dumb fuck extraordinaire

[Jakes Progress]

87. People who listen to rush should be neutered

to go along with their lobotomy. One generation to cull that gene from the pool.

Yeah, yeah. I know. Over the top. But sheesh. What an ass. And what ass droppings are those who follow him. Stupid isn't strong enough a word.

[Rex]

88. Gush must pander to his target audience.

Obviously very stupid people.

[SomethingFishy]

89. Record breaking 72 degrees in Nashville yesterday

Shut up Rush.

[Dirty Socialist]

90. The fact he had to go all the way to San Diego

To find a counter argument is proof that climate change is a serious problem.

[I am B]

92. people like Rush Limbaugh need to put out of business

they are making everyone poorer with their ignorance

[watch the sky]

99. so sez RL, the professional troll, ignore him

he ought to just shut up and pop another oxycitin

[brandonk]

102. Global Warming?

[Initech]

104. Anyone who still takes that pile of shit seriously needs to have their head examined.

[ladjf]

105. The man's ignorance has no limits. nt

[RebelOne]

106. It is 68 degrees here in the Atlanta area,

where normal temperatures at this time of the year would be in the low 50s. If it gets any higher, I may be tempted to turn on my AC.