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URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
545 PM PST FRI JAN 11 2013
...VERY COLD NIGHTS WITH FROST AND FREEZING TEMPERATURES THE NEXT
FEW MORNINGS...
.AREAS OF FROST AND BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES TONIGHT THROUGH
TUESDAY MORNING IN ALL AREAS WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS AND THE LOWER
DESERTS. SATURDAY NIGHT APPEARS TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT AT THIS
TIME WITH A HARD FREEZE LIKELY IN SOME AREAS.
CAZ048-050-121200-
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SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE-
SAN DIEGO COUNTY VALLEYS-
545 PM PST FRI JAN 11 2013
...FREEZE WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 8 AM PST
SUNDAY...
...FREEZE WATCH IS CANCELLED...
THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN DIEGO HAS CANCELLED THE
FREEZE WATCH.
* LOCATION...ALL VALLEYS.
* TEMPERATURES...BELOW FREEZING TONIGHT IN MANY AREAS WITH LOWS
FROM 22 TO 28 DEGREES IN THE COLDEST VALLEYS. EVEN COLDER
SATURDAY NIGHT WITH A HARD FREEZE LIKELY WITH LOWS FROM 20 TO 26
IN THE COLDEST VALLEYS. ELEVATED TERRAIN AND MOUNTAIN PASSES MAY
BE SEVERAL DEGREES WARMER.
* DURATION...MORE THAN 8 HOURS OF BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES
WITH UP TO 5 HOURS OF TEMPERATURES BELOW 28 DEGREES.
* IMPACTS...SENSITIVE PLANTS AND CROPS MAY BE DAMAGED OR KILLED IF
UNPROTECTED.
* OUTLOOK...CONTINUED COLD SUNDAY AND MONDAY NIGHTS...BUT
INCREASING OFFSHORE WINDS WILL LIMIT THE EXTENT OF THE BELOW
FREEZING TEMPERATURES TO THE WIND SHELTERED AREAS. NOT QUITE AS
COLD TUESDAY NIGHT BUT STILL FALLING BELOW FREEZING IN SOME
AREAS. WARMER WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.
PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
A FREEZE WARNING MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE IMMINENT OR
HIGHLY LIKELY. THESE CONDITIONS WILL KILL CROPS AND OTHER
SENSITIVE VEGETATION.
&&
$$
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)We've been getting down to 15 F some nights. Damn pipes freeze.
I left bottled water in my car during the past week and it was completely solid ice.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)susanna
(5,231 posts)Strange weather, to be sure.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)but what a nice day.
Mojorabbit
(16,020 posts)Txn4real
(3 posts)Global warming is a bitch, ain't it? LOL
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Something tells me you're not going to last very long here so I might as well say goodbye.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Let's say sayonara.....
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)JayhawkSD
(3,163 posts)Lasher
(29,576 posts)In January. In West Virginia. I've never seen such a thing.
teenagebambam
(1,593 posts)in the early 1980's....seems to me it was 70 degrees on Christmas Day!
RetroGamer1971
(177 posts)Freeze Warning in Central Arizona
Active for next 3 days
Locations: Greater Phoenix Area; Lower Colorado River Valley AZ; Northwest Maricopa County; Southwest Deserts; Southwest Maricopa C
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Posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago National Weather Service
How likely:How soon:How severe:
The original text for this alert has been automatically reformatted to correct capitalization.
Freeze Warning remains in effect until 9 am MST /8 am Pst/ Tuesday.
A Freeze Warning remains in effect until 9 am MST /8 am Pst/ Tuesday.
Affected area: the greater Phoenix area especially all outlying suburbs, as well as Wickenburg, Gila Bend, Quartzsite. Wenden, and Buckeye.
Currently, at 9 pm Friday, temperatures had already fallen into the lower and middle 30s across the outlying suburbs of Phoenix, and into the lower to middle 40s in the immediate urban corridor.
Temperature: morning lows will range from the low 30s in the urban Phoenix center down to the low 20s in the outlying suburbs and more rural areas.
Impacts: destruction of garden plants and vegetables, damage to landscaping plants and citrus trees, added hardship for homeless people and pets left outdoors, damage to exposed plumbing pipes.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)And doing wild fires.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)blueamy66
(6,795 posts)I'm on Chandler and it is the coldest I can remember!
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)Hopefully there will be good weather when I visit in a couple of weeks.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)It's warmer where I am in Rochester NY! Do homes even have heat in San Diego?!?

nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)In all seriousness people will die from this.
tjwash
(8,219 posts)petronius
(26,696 posts)numbers up near the top there?
Signed,
A Coastal Californian
catzies
(8,093 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But over the last year I will probably have the AC and Heater on more than any other time in the last 25 years. Usually we get two to three day blasts of heat/cold. This year looks like two to three weeks of blasts.
That being said, it seems to be a few degee variable in each direction, not a big thing on a weekly basis, but large overall.
The water has been turned off for almost three months. (yes we have green grass all winter long) This morning I pondered the need to run the sprinklers for a day to make sure the pipes don't freeze. Regardless we will be fine, the issue is a great deal of vegatation will grow to be followed by a dry summer, which will result in dry vegetation and thus fire issues.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)The whole western portion of the country is pretty cold...
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And it looks like it'll stay cold until the jet stream shifts. It's only -2F where I'm at but it will be around -20F by morning if the clouds clear out.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I got a winter jacket that will come handy...but that is not common.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)It was actually more like -30F or more, -27F by the time I turned on the computer this morning, well after sunrise. Thank goodness for thermal drapes! It's about -5F right now and since clouds have moved in, they will hold in the cold so it might get to positive digits at some point but I doubt it. It's supposed to be about the same tonight.
Living up here where these temps are common in winter, I have collected over the years a number of down coats, sheepskin (think pile) fleece boots are best, and a couple snowmobile suits even though I don't ride those things. Down-filled hoods are best also, neoprene face mask, I don't get really cold when I do go out. Never use water based lotions or go out with wet hair in those conditions. Just have to be smart about it. And there are those hand warmer packets and foot warmer packets if you have to be out for any length of time.
Makes you plan ahead with groceries and such. I absolutely love it here and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
defacto7
(14,162 posts)and -6 F the next night. Salt Lake City. It gets cold here, but that is unusually cold. On top of that, we just had almost 2 feet of snow since Wed. evening. That's the most I've seen here in about 9 years.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)will continue to use stuff like this to deny that ACC is happening until the day they croak, but one doesn't need to be a scientist to notice that the weather has been getting a little stranger over the past 20 years or so. And in fact, there's some research that suggests a regime of "global weirding" may come into play, in which both extremes become somewhat more common(this might help explain the major cold wave that swept thru much of Europe last winter).
defacto7
(14,162 posts)The extremes are very telling. It's the Rush crowd that that thinks every time it rains or snows it's proof there is no warming. The extremes as I have read it are part of the systematic disruption. Being warmer at the polls push "relatively" colder air south. We are so removed from the time scale that causes these changes that it really takes a lot of science to see the whole picture. All we see are the ricochet effects of that change.
Larrymoe Curlyshemp
(111 posts)ReRe
(12,189 posts)...if that isn't proof of climate change, I don't know what is. Wow!
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The mountains, we got snow.
But yes, climate is changing. Today, after the jeep gets it's LoJack, picking up the chains.
Some of our lower elevations do not have the proper roofs if we should add snow...I want to be able to get there safely. And this is the seventh straight day chains have been required in higher elevations.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)(long wolf whistle!) Be careful! You are doing all the right things. 4-wheel drive, full gas tank, and a safety crate in the back with provisions should you get stuck, chains, how about a wench? Do you have "On Star"? You take care! You sound like you are in the movie "The Shining."
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)If need be, lower the back seat...pick up food on the way, water, throw the sleeping bag for fun, and the entrenching tool. (And pick a pair of heavy duty gloves)
Of course, fill the thermos with coffee.
I need to put in the first aid kit in as well. Alas, that's obvious.
You wanna laugh? Most of our local press wings it...next fire season I need to take the funny photo of guy in flip flops, shorts and short sleeve rayon shirt by the fire line. Right now they got the god given sense...not to try to get stupid and get satellite trucks in there. Between the high profile, top heavy and no four wheel... Hey bud, you wanna be part of the news?
ReRe
(12,189 posts)...you take care out there on the job. Sounds exciting. Wish I had many lives like my cat, would definitely like to do what you do...
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)ReRe
(12,189 posts)...you're going to be fine, now that you told me that you used to be a paramedic!
zappaman
(20,627 posts)So, she is definitely agile enough.
Add in paramedic, as you noted, as well as cop, firefighter, and marine, and I highly doubt we have to worry.
Regardless, good luck Nadine!
siouxsiecreamcheese
(587 posts)Record breaking highs.. We're usually in the mid 50's this time of year.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)44º in Connecticut in January, proof there is global warming.
I guess we'll have to leave it there.

HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)and produces an evidence profile in increased swings in temperature rather than merely higher and higher temps
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)they are also ignoring the 120 degree temps in Australia. American climate change deniers often have a very ethnocentric view on this: if it's not hot where THEY are, it doesn't count. I do think last summer being the hottest of all time in the US has changed some minds. Hopefully.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The climate is so different from when I grew up, let alone her. None has an issue with the concept.
But when I was there for a historic hailstorm, the head of the NWS went on TV to explain the phenomena...in the meantime our local channel 9 has a quack as a meteorologist who is one of the top deniers out there.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)2012 was the warmest on record.
Can you say Jet Stream? More extreme weather is one of the predictions due to changes to it.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)I was making fun of CNN and Wolf Blitzer.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Local channel nine meteorologist drives me up a wall...and he's among the worst deniers. I am sure he inserted his denial snark in weather forecast.
What is hilarious is that all these weather people are reading the same raw data I posted.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)Those people are funny, too.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I became very familiar with NWS data. We really did not get the reports from the Mexican weather service...and Tijuana we could use the San Diego ones. These days I check the NWS regularly.
cpwm17
(3,829 posts)I can't stand that station. It's like FOX News. I'm not surprised that the weather guy's a denier.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The local fox affiliate is good
ReRe
(12,189 posts)...without seeing Wolf's face...
Lochloosa
(16,735 posts)See, there are some good things about living in FL
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)IDemo
(16,926 posts)Colder than usual, even for Boise. Come on, April and garden season!
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)"THESE CONDITIONS WILL KILL CROPS AND OTHER
SENSITIVE VEGETATION. "
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)One of my local farmers at the market has the farm in affected area. I won't be shocked not to see him tomorrow. Will print the latest before I go to the market.
brandonk
(12 posts)Earth_First
(14,910 posts)Overnight low of 49 expected...
watch the sky
(129 posts)of San Diego, must be something all up and down this coast. Don't let the plants freeze, you probably aren't used to extreme cold at all and try to stay warm and flu-free.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)From Canada.
riverbendviewgal
(4,396 posts)here in Ontario it is 14C (in Toronto and sunny . That is 57F) Must be setting records.
I am up north Ontario where rivers run to the Artic, not Atlantic It was 8C (47F)today. Yesterday our main Northern highways were closed because of icy roads...
But temperatures are due to drop to low of minus 15 with snow in a couple days. and dropping more to minus 28c...
there is Climate change happening. anyone who does not think so is not informed and hearing the wrong people
Relatives in Australia are getting over 40C temperatures. They live on east side and can smell the fires that are hundreds of miles away.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)In centigrade.
So right now it's not bad on the coast. 15 c. In the morning it was 2 c.
I worry for denizens in not even that far inland. Getting the bathroom redone. The guy had his truck doors frozen shut this morning...truck iced over. He's from Idaho, so he knows what to do. Roads...well just picked up the chains. Higher elevations have required them, not just last night. I have been posting those warnings on the paper twitter feed for five days in a row.
Higher elevations in baja (La Rumorosa) were closed to traffic for 72 hours with temps down to -10 centigrade.
Raksha
(7,167 posts)Tonight will be even worse - 28 degrees.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)I know sounds silly...but we may see busted pipes...(From freezing)
watch the sky
(129 posts)with a slow leak, you don't want a busted pipe, believe me. And keep those birds of yours safe and warm as well . . .
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)But will tell my sister. She is in an area that will see frost.
Birds are toasty.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)to the swamp cooler on my assistant's mobile home's roof. Her neighbor called yesterday late morning to say there was a geyser spraying from her roof.
Fortunately it was a quick and easy fix of $100. I told her to look into some sort of insulation for the exposed section of pipe.
TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)That usually only happens in the summer.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Tempted to call my family on Cleveland.
TheManInTheMac
(985 posts)I have no idea why he would dress his car that way, but to each his own.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)It's warmer in New England than So. Cal.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)California natives, not so much.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)You folks are unprepared for this kind of weather. It's like us in a heat wave - I and many neighbors have no AC.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Has nada on this.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)Like emptying garden hoses, covering plants, and providing shelters for the homeless.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Will call my sis and tell her to let her faucets drip overnight...where she lives she could get busted pipes.
Though the shelters-are open...thank st Vincent de paiul and father joes.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)If it's only down to the 20's, pipes are unlikely to freeze overnight. But it doesn't hurt to be safe.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)The spell includes tomorrow. Been a "wild" week.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)That's a likely location for freezing.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)He grew up in Norman Ok...he should know.
I live in a condo...near the coast.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)I guess you will have to use the drip method. I would consider wrapping the garden hose faucets on the outside with a towel after running water through them. That will slow down the cooling.
Here in the Northeast, we use a specific type of faucet that is freeze resistant. They claim freeze proof, but it took some damage on one after -10 lows for three days.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)their piddly little fans in my apartment and dress warmly and take a hot bath before bed, then pile the blankets and cats on. This place, like most pre-1980s housing in Los Angeles, has virtually NO insulation.
And we've had over a week down below freezing at night now, and only in the 40s during the day for two weeks.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)If I wanted it 72 I would have to run the heat 24/7 and the electric bill would top $1000. And No, I'm not kidding. And this is a 1 BR apartment.
At least we don't have howling winds and rain with it. Then it's hard to get it above 60.
If I have the heaters set too low it will drop to under 50 inside in just a couple of hours. ZERO insulation.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)I lived with that for a while in an apt. It's quite pricy. I normally keep my house (1500 sqft) at 68, but with natural gas it's only about $220 max in winter. I have insulation, but the house is old.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)I suppose. But the least they could do is insulate. Since they aren't the ones paying the electric bill, they couldn't care less. The codes got upgraded over the years, but Pre-80s stock like my place doesn't have to be retrofitted.
On the up side, it does have the tiniest bit of architectural character, which is completely missing from newer places. And the rooms are bigger. New apartments are microscopic.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)It's a lot cheaper. Especially since the alternative here is Oil.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Very energy efficient.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)HockeyMom
(14,337 posts)Mid 80s and humid, which is about 10/15 degrees above normal. It seems the entire east coast is warmer that usual.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)Of course, these patterns do happen from time to time, but they do seem to be becoming a tad more common, too, from what I've seen so far.....strange, isn't it?
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)and there were cars lined up at the gas stations getting anti-freeze. I do remember one time that I was scraping ice off my windshield. But now I live in North Georgia and we have frequent freeze warnings. But for the past few days it has been in the high 60s and lower 70s.
Irishonly
(3,344 posts)The ground was frozen this morning. We have three dogs and my job today has to been door opener and closer. Usually, they love being outdoors. Five minutes is a long time for them today. My 90+ pound one has suddenly decided he is a lap dog. Out tomato plants were still producing but I think they may be toast after tonight.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)Irishonly
(3,344 posts)I have no idea why. Every year one or two may die but the others will last. We have one plant full of green ones now. We also have an insane cherry tomato plant although the tomatoes are tiny at this point. We thought we had pulled it out but it came back and gives tomatoes about the size of your thumb nail. Each year the tomatoes will get smaller though. Our lemon tree used to produce all year around also but we lost it last year.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)Tomatoes are perennials in their native habitat. They just can't last with the cold in most of the world. Glad they still produce. As for the smaller growth, have you tested the soil for nutrients?
Irishonly
(3,344 posts)My husband watches over the garden much like a hawk.
NutmegYankee
(16,478 posts)One of the pleasures of spring to summer.
Irishonly
(3,344 posts)I was raised in Iowa and my parents loved to garden. Growing your food is satisfying. I was able to freeze a lot this year as well as swap food with the neighbors. I love planting, digging and caring for the yard.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)tonight and make fried green tomatoes, or pickle them, or keep then to maybe ripen.
Irishonly
(3,344 posts)I also put covers on them. Forget the humans-we are doing what we can. Every plant I could cover is covered.
Warpy
(114,615 posts)Here in NM, we might get above freezing by Tuesday. Might. By two degrees F.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Jack Sprat
(2,500 posts)We're running the A/C units in the east.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Conures are cozy though.
Blue_In_AK
(46,436 posts)It's supposed to be mid 40s tomorrow. Come join us in the banana belt.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)You made me laugh.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)it got as low as -11.
Ain't no thang...