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nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:31 AM Jan 2013

Freeze warning San Diego

URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN DIEGO CA
545 PM PST FRI JAN 11 2013

...VERY COLD NIGHTS WITH FROST AND FREEZING TEMPERATURES THE NEXT
FEW MORNINGS...

.AREAS OF FROST AND BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES TONIGHT THROUGH
TUESDAY MORNING IN ALL AREAS WEST OF THE MOUNTAINS AND THE LOWER
DESERTS. SATURDAY NIGHT APPEARS TO BE THE COLDEST NIGHT AT THIS
TIME WITH A HARD FREEZE LIKELY IN SOME AREAS.

CAZ048-050-121200-
/O.CAN.KSGX.FZ.A.0002.130113T0800Z-130113T1600Z/
/O.EXT.KSGX.FZ.W.0001.130112T0800Z-130113T1600Z/
SAN BERNARDINO AND RIVERSIDE COUNTY VALLEYS-THE INLAND EMPIRE-
SAN DIEGO COUNTY VALLEYS-
545 PM PST FRI JAN 11 2013

...FREEZE WARNING NOW IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO 8 AM PST
SUNDAY...
...FREEZE WATCH IS CANCELLED...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN SAN DIEGO HAS CANCELLED THE
FREEZE WATCH.

* LOCATION...ALL VALLEYS.

* TEMPERATURES...BELOW FREEZING TONIGHT IN MANY AREAS WITH LOWS
FROM 22 TO 28 DEGREES IN THE COLDEST VALLEYS. EVEN COLDER
SATURDAY NIGHT WITH A HARD FREEZE LIKELY WITH LOWS FROM 20 TO 26
IN THE COLDEST VALLEYS. ELEVATED TERRAIN AND MOUNTAIN PASSES MAY
BE SEVERAL DEGREES WARMER.

* DURATION...MORE THAN 8 HOURS OF BELOW FREEZING TEMPERATURES
WITH UP TO 5 HOURS OF TEMPERATURES BELOW 28 DEGREES.

* IMPACTS...SENSITIVE PLANTS AND CROPS MAY BE DAMAGED OR KILLED IF
UNPROTECTED.

* OUTLOOK...CONTINUED COLD SUNDAY AND MONDAY NIGHTS...BUT
INCREASING OFFSHORE WINDS WILL LIMIT THE EXTENT OF THE BELOW
FREEZING TEMPERATURES TO THE WIND SHELTERED AREAS. NOT QUITE AS
COLD TUESDAY NIGHT BUT STILL FALLING BELOW FREEZING IN SOME
AREAS. WARMER WEDNESDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A FREEZE WARNING MEANS SUB-FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE IMMINENT OR
HIGHLY LIKELY. THESE CONDITIONS WILL KILL CROPS AND OTHER
SENSITIVE VEGETATION.

&&

$$

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Freeze warning San Diego (Original Post) nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 OP
That's almost as cold as it's been over here in Seoul Korea davidpdx Jan 2013 #1
Going to be in the lower 60's here in mid-michigan tomorrow! Jan. 12? Go figure... eom Purveyor Jan 2013 #2
In SE Michigan - I couldn't believe today...felt like late spring. susanna Jan 2013 #12
Golfing weather, a little wet and muddy Motown_Johnny Jan 2013 #61
It feels like spring here in Orlando. Gorgeous weather. nt Mojorabbit Jan 2013 #105
It'll be a cold day in San Diego... Txn4real Jan 2013 #3
Welcome to DU. Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #9
It's alright, C.D., this idiot just got his pizza, it seems. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #17
How did praying for drought aid work out for you Texans? JaneyVee Jan 2013 #35
We will be colder in San Diego than it will be in Chicago. n/t JayhawkSD Jan 2013 #4
And it's suppose to get up to 71 degrees here in WV tomorrow. Lasher Jan 2013 #5
I remember a warm Christmas in Charleston teenagebambam Jan 2013 #28
Phoenix as Well. Hard to believe it will be 110 in six months! RetroGamer1971 Jan 2013 #6
Yea, in six months we'll be chasing bush trucks. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #25
20F here in Tempe. Crazy! phantom power Jan 2013 #26
No shit. blueamy66 Jan 2013 #32
It's a good thing that my parents just got their heater fixed cpwm17 Jan 2013 #7
well there it is 32 degrees wow! Agschmid Jan 2013 #8
Yes, but not in Tijuana nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #20
Phoenix is 23 tjwash Jan 2013 #29
What are those little dashes or hyphens in front of the petronius Jan 2013 #50
LOL you're right, what are they? But this Coastal Californian had frost on her car this morning catzies Jan 2013 #69
And you will tomorrow morning nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #77
Yup! rufus dog Jan 2013 #64
Yup 2naSalit Jan 2013 #10
Oh cool... No, serious, cool nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #24
Well, I was kind of right last night... 2naSalit Jan 2013 #38
We're expecting -2 F tomorrow night. defacto7 Jan 2013 #11
Of course, I'm sure Monckton and his pals..... AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #88
absolutely.... defacto7 Jan 2013 #108
THE HORROR! Larrymoe Curlyshemp Jan 2013 #13
When was the last time San Diego had that kind of weather? ReRe Jan 2013 #14
It's the coast that is the warning sign nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #21
Whew! ReRe Jan 2013 #39
Reporter... It's what we do nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #43
Seriously!!! ReRe Jan 2013 #45
Used to be a paramedic. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #46
Yeah...I think... ReRe Jan 2013 #55
nd a champion fencer who almost went to the Olympics! zappaman Jan 2013 #74
We're expecting 75-80 here in the southeast this weekend siouxsiecreamcheese Jan 2013 #15
30º in San Diego in January, proof there's no global warming. krispos42 Jan 2013 #16
near total public and media ignorance of how climate warming affects jet streams HereSince1628 Jan 2013 #19
Absolutely but it's not only that laundry_queen Jan 2013 #23
I go see my mom every so often in Mexico City. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #27
There is 1 degree already of higher global temps nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #22
I know, I know krispos42 Jan 2013 #30
Ah...and he's not the worst nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #31
It's happening, but it's not man made? krispos42 Jan 2013 #33
Doing storm disaster response nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #34
My dad watches channel 9 cpwm17 Jan 2013 #41
in the meantime nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #44
I could have gone all year... ReRe Jan 2013 #40
82 today in Jacksonville, FL Lochloosa Jan 2013 #18
55 in NYC on January 12th. Bizarre. A snowless north-eastern winter. JaneyVee Jan 2013 #36
-1 at my house this morning IDemo Jan 2013 #37
Look for produce prices to rise - hedgehog Jan 2013 #42
Funny you say that nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #52
Time to get out of California brandonk Jan 2013 #47
57 in Western, New York as I type this at 4:23 p.m. Earth_First Jan 2013 #48
30 degrees about 1700 or so miles due north watch the sky Jan 2013 #49
The wind circulation is coming straight down nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #51
Sorry to hear about all this drastic weather change riverbendviewgal Jan 2013 #58
You want to laugh, I got the jeep external thermometer nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #59
It went down to 30 degrees here in San Bernardino last night. Raksha Jan 2013 #53
Warning goes till Tuesday nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #54
keep a tap going watch the sky Jan 2013 #56
We are on the coast nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #57
In Los Angeles 2 nights ago it got cold enough to freeze and rupture the water supply line kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #60
It's warmer here in Cleveland in San Diego. TheManInTheMac Jan 2013 #62
Ain't it wild? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #63
Yes, very strange. One of my neighbors was washing his car in shorts and a tee shirt. TheManInTheMac Jan 2013 #66
It's freaky NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #67
New Englanders know what to do nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #68
I totally understand. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #70
What amazes me is that the Office of Emergency Services nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #71
You'd think they would at least issue a few precautionary measures. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #72
You think they even got a clue? nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #73
How cold is it looking to go down to? NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #75
Mid 20s...second night of bellow freezing nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #76
Is it basement style homes or crawspace? NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #78
There are no basements in Cali nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #80
Ah. It might be a good idea to wrap the outdoor hose faucets with a towel. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #82
I sent email to brother in law nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #83
Pipes freezing up here in Los Angeles for a few nights now. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #95
That sucks. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #97
I know what to do: crank up all 3 piddly little wall heaters with kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #94
What are you able to keep the apartment at temperature wise? NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #98
I try to keep it at about 65, I can handle that without being uncomfortable. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #99
Ouch. Electric heat. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #102
Yeah. Apartment owners don't want gas anywhere near their property, kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #104
That's a shame on gas. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #106
The older places have those gas-fired little wall heaters. I liked those. kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #111
Damn near 60 degrees in Chicago yesterday alcibiades_mystery Jan 2013 #65
Wish I had a freeze warning in South Florida HockeyMom Jan 2013 #79
It definitely is. AverageJoe90 Jan 2013 #89
When I lived in Miami, we had one freeze warning, RebelOne Jan 2013 #92
It's cold in IE also Irishonly Jan 2013 #81
Do your tomato plants usually produce year round? NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #90
The last few of years they have Irishonly Jan 2013 #91
You must live close enough to the original habitat. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #93
Yes Irishonly Jan 2013 #100
I love growing a garden. NutmegYankee Jan 2013 #103
We do also Irishonly Jan 2013 #107
Maters are gonna be black tomorrow. Go pull the green ones kestrel91316 Jan 2013 #96
We got a lot of them Irishonly Jan 2013 #101
Yeah, expect oranges to get really expensive, along with most produce Warpy Jan 2013 #84
I'll talk to growers in the morning nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #85
You are making me jealous. Jack Sprat Jan 2013 #86
I am running the heater. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #87
38 degrees in Anchorage at almost midnight. Blue_In_AK Jan 2013 #109
Lol. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #110
-4 on my back porch here in So. Cal. last night, while elsewhere in Bear Valley cherokeeprogressive Jan 2013 #112

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
1. That's almost as cold as it's been over here in Seoul Korea
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:46 AM
Jan 2013

We've been getting down to 15 F some nights. Damn pipes freeze.

I left bottled water in my car during the past week and it was completely solid ice.

susanna

(5,231 posts)
12. In SE Michigan - I couldn't believe today...felt like late spring.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:00 AM
Jan 2013

Strange weather, to be sure.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
9. Welcome to DU.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:19 AM
Jan 2013

Something tells me you're not going to last very long here so I might as well say goodbye.

Lasher

(29,576 posts)
5. And it's suppose to get up to 71 degrees here in WV tomorrow.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 01:56 AM
Jan 2013

In January. In West Virginia. I've never seen such a thing.

teenagebambam

(1,593 posts)
28. I remember a warm Christmas in Charleston
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:56 AM
Jan 2013

in the early 1980's....seems to me it was 70 degrees on Christmas Day!

RetroGamer1971

(177 posts)
6. Phoenix as Well. Hard to believe it will be 110 in six months!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:00 AM
Jan 2013

Freeze Warning in Central Arizona

Active for next 3 days
Locations: Greater Phoenix Area; Lower Colorado River Valley AZ; Northwest Maricopa County; Southwest Deserts; Southwest Maricopa C… Show more
Posted 1 hour, 29 minutes ago – National Weather Service

How likely:How soon:How severe:
The original text for this alert has been automatically reformatted to correct capitalization.

Freeze Warning remains in effect until 9 am MST /8 am Pst/ Tuesday.

A Freeze Warning remains in effect until 9 am MST /8 am Pst/ Tuesday.

Affected area: the greater Phoenix area especially all outlying suburbs, as well as Wickenburg, Gila Bend, Quartzsite. Wenden, and Buckeye.
Currently, at 9 pm Friday, temperatures had already fallen into the lower and middle 30s across the outlying suburbs of Phoenix, and into the lower to middle 40s in the immediate urban corridor.
Temperature: morning lows will range from the low 30s in the urban Phoenix center down to the low 20s in the outlying suburbs and more rural areas.
Impacts: destruction of garden plants and vegetables, damage to landscaping plants and citrus trees, added hardship for homeless people and pets left outdoors, damage to exposed plumbing pipes.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
7. It's a good thing that my parents just got their heater fixed
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:01 AM
Jan 2013

Hopefully there will be good weather when I visit in a couple of weeks.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
8. well there it is 32 degrees wow!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:07 AM
Jan 2013

It's warmer where I am in Rochester NY! Do homes even have heat in San Diego?!?

petronius

(26,696 posts)
50. What are those little dashes or hyphens in front of the
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:35 PM
Jan 2013

numbers up near the top there?

Signed,
A Coastal Californian

catzies

(8,093 posts)
69. LOL you're right, what are they? But this Coastal Californian had frost on her car this morning
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:28 PM
Jan 2013
 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
64. Yup!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:04 PM
Jan 2013

But over the last year I will probably have the AC and Heater on more than any other time in the last 25 years. Usually we get two to three day blasts of heat/cold. This year looks like two to three weeks of blasts.

That being said, it seems to be a few degee variable in each direction, not a big thing on a weekly basis, but large overall.

The water has been turned off for almost three months. (yes we have green grass all winter long) This morning I pondered the need to run the sprinklers for a day to make sure the pipes don't freeze. Regardless we will be fine, the issue is a great deal of vegatation will grow to be followed by a dry summer, which will result in dry vegetation and thus fire issues.





2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
10. Yup
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:20 AM
Jan 2013

The whole western portion of the country is pretty cold...







And it looks like it'll stay cold until the jet stream shifts. It's only -2F where I'm at but it will be around -20F by morning if the clouds clear out.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
24. Oh cool... No, serious, cool
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:30 AM
Jan 2013

I got a winter jacket that will come handy...but that is not common.

2naSalit

(102,793 posts)
38. Well, I was kind of right last night...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 03:26 PM
Jan 2013

It was actually more like -30F or more, -27F by the time I turned on the computer this morning, well after sunrise. Thank goodness for thermal drapes! It's about -5F right now and since clouds have moved in, they will hold in the cold so it might get to positive digits at some point but I doubt it. It's supposed to be about the same tonight.

Living up here where these temps are common in winter, I have collected over the years a number of down coats, sheepskin (think pile) fleece boots are best, and a couple snowmobile suits even though I don't ride those things. Down-filled hoods are best also, neoprene face mask, I don't get really cold when I do go out. Never use water based lotions or go out with wet hair in those conditions. Just have to be smart about it. And there are those hand warmer packets and foot warmer packets if you have to be out for any length of time.

Makes you plan ahead with groceries and such. I absolutely love it here and I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
11. We're expecting -2 F tomorrow night.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 02:37 AM
Jan 2013

and -6 F the next night. Salt Lake City. It gets cold here, but that is unusually cold. On top of that, we just had almost 2 feet of snow since Wed. evening. That's the most I've seen here in about 9 years.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
88. Of course, I'm sure Monckton and his pals.....
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:42 PM
Jan 2013

will continue to use stuff like this to deny that ACC is happening until the day they croak, but one doesn't need to be a scientist to notice that the weather has been getting a little stranger over the past 20 years or so. And in fact, there's some research that suggests a regime of "global weirding" may come into play, in which both extremes become somewhat more common(this might help explain the major cold wave that swept thru much of Europe last winter).

defacto7

(14,162 posts)
108. absolutely....
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 02:25 AM
Jan 2013

The extremes are very telling. It's the Rush crowd that that thinks every time it rains or snows it's proof there is no warming. The extremes as I have read it are part of the systematic disruption. Being warmer at the polls push "relatively" colder air south. We are so removed from the time scale that causes these changes that it really takes a lot of science to see the whole picture. All we see are the ricochet effects of that change.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
14. When was the last time San Diego had that kind of weather?
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 04:08 AM
Jan 2013

...if that isn't proof of climate change, I don't know what is. Wow!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
21. It's the coast that is the warning sign
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:24 AM
Jan 2013

The mountains, we got snow.

But yes, climate is changing. Today, after the jeep gets it's LoJack, picking up the chains.

Some of our lower elevations do not have the proper roofs if we should add snow...I want to be able to get there safely. And this is the seventh straight day chains have been required in higher elevations.

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
39. Whew!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:02 PM
Jan 2013

(long wolf whistle!) Be careful! You are doing all the right things. 4-wheel drive, full gas tank, and a safety crate in the back with provisions should you get stuck, chains, how about a wench? Do you have "On Star"? You take care! You sound like you are in the movie "The Shining."

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
43. Reporter... It's what we do
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:13 PM
Jan 2013

If need be, lower the back seat...pick up food on the way, water, throw the sleeping bag for fun, and the entrenching tool. (And pick a pair of heavy duty gloves)

Of course, fill the thermos with coffee.

I need to put in the first aid kit in as well. Alas, that's obvious.

You wanna laugh? Most of our local press wings it...next fire season I need to take the funny photo of guy in flip flops, shorts and short sleeve rayon shirt by the fire line. Right now they got the god given sense...not to try to get stupid and get satellite trucks in there. Between the high profile, top heavy and no four wheel... Hey bud, you wanna be part of the news?

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
45. Seriously!!!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:18 PM
Jan 2013

...you take care out there on the job. Sounds exciting. Wish I had many lives like my cat, would definitely like to do what you do...

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
55. Yeah...I think...
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:50 PM
Jan 2013

...you're going to be fine, now that you told me that you used to be a paramedic!

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
74. nd a champion fencer who almost went to the Olympics!
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:46 PM
Jan 2013

So, she is definitely agile enough.
Add in paramedic, as you noted, as well as cop, firefighter, and marine, and I highly doubt we have to worry.
Regardless, good luck Nadine!

15. We're expecting 75-80 here in the southeast this weekend
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 04:16 AM
Jan 2013

Record breaking highs.. We're usually in the mid 50's this time of year.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
16. 30º in San Diego in January, proof there's no global warming.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 04:25 AM
Jan 2013

44º in Connecticut in January, proof there is global warming.



I guess we'll have to leave it there.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
19. near total public and media ignorance of how climate warming affects jet streams
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:13 AM
Jan 2013

and produces an evidence profile in increased swings in temperature rather than merely higher and higher temps

laundry_queen

(8,646 posts)
23. Absolutely but it's not only that
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:29 AM
Jan 2013

they are also ignoring the 120 degree temps in Australia. American climate change deniers often have a very ethnocentric view on this: if it's not hot where THEY are, it doesn't count. I do think last summer being the hottest of all time in the US has changed some minds. Hopefully.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
27. I go see my mom every so often in Mexico City.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:40 AM
Jan 2013

The climate is so different from when I grew up, let alone her. None has an issue with the concept.

But when I was there for a historic hailstorm, the head of the NWS went on TV to explain the phenomena...in the meantime our local channel 9 has a quack as a meteorologist who is one of the top deniers out there.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
22. There is 1 degree already of higher global temps
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 11:25 AM
Jan 2013

2012 was the warmest on record.

Can you say Jet Stream? More extreme weather is one of the predictions due to changes to it.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
31. Ah...and he's not the worst
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:19 PM
Jan 2013

Local channel nine meteorologist drives me up a wall...and he's among the worst deniers. I am sure he inserted his denial snark in weather forecast.

What is hilarious is that all these weather people are reading the same raw data I posted.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
34. Doing storm disaster response
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:26 PM
Jan 2013

I became very familiar with NWS data. We really did not get the reports from the Mexican weather service...and Tijuana we could use the San Diego ones. These days I check the NWS regularly.

 

cpwm17

(3,829 posts)
41. My dad watches channel 9
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:10 PM
Jan 2013

I can't stand that station. It's like FOX News. I'm not surprised that the weather guy's a denier.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
37. -1 at my house this morning
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 12:33 PM
Jan 2013

Colder than usual, even for Boise. Come on, April and garden season!

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
42. Look for produce prices to rise -
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:11 PM
Jan 2013

"THESE CONDITIONS WILL KILL CROPS AND OTHER
SENSITIVE VEGETATION. "

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
52. Funny you say that
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:39 PM
Jan 2013

One of my local farmers at the market has the farm in affected area. I won't be shocked not to see him tomorrow. Will print the latest before I go to the market.

watch the sky

(129 posts)
49. 30 degrees about 1700 or so miles due north
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:28 PM
Jan 2013

of San Diego, must be something all up and down this coast. Don't let the plants freeze, you probably aren't used to extreme cold at all and try to stay warm and flu-free.

riverbendviewgal

(4,396 posts)
58. Sorry to hear about all this drastic weather change
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:54 PM
Jan 2013

here in Ontario it is 14C (in Toronto and sunny . That is 57F) Must be setting records.
I am up north Ontario where rivers run to the Artic, not Atlantic It was 8C (47F)today. Yesterday our main Northern highways were closed because of icy roads...
But temperatures are due to drop to low of minus 15 with snow in a couple days. and dropping more to minus 28c...

there is Climate change happening. anyone who does not think so is not informed and hearing the wrong people




Relatives in Australia are getting over 40C temperatures. They live on east side and can smell the fires that are hundreds of miles away.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
59. You want to laugh, I got the jeep external thermometer
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:00 PM
Jan 2013

In centigrade.

So right now it's not bad on the coast. 15 c. In the morning it was 2 c.

I worry for denizens in not even that far inland. Getting the bathroom redone. The guy had his truck doors frozen shut this morning...truck iced over. He's from Idaho, so he knows what to do. Roads...well just picked up the chains. Higher elevations have required them, not just last night. I have been posting those warnings on the paper twitter feed for five days in a row.

Higher elevations in baja (La Rumorosa) were closed to traffic for 72 hours with temps down to -10 centigrade.

Raksha

(7,167 posts)
53. It went down to 30 degrees here in San Bernardino last night.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:39 PM
Jan 2013

Tonight will be even worse - 28 degrees.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
54. Warning goes till Tuesday
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:43 PM
Jan 2013

I know sounds silly...but we may see busted pipes...(From freezing)

watch the sky

(129 posts)
56. keep a tap going
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:52 PM
Jan 2013

with a slow leak, you don't want a busted pipe, believe me. And keep those birds of yours safe and warm as well . . .

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
57. We are on the coast
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 05:53 PM
Jan 2013

But will tell my sister. She is in an area that will see frost.

Birds are toasty.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
60. In Los Angeles 2 nights ago it got cold enough to freeze and rupture the water supply line
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 06:35 PM
Jan 2013

to the swamp cooler on my assistant's mobile home's roof. Her neighbor called yesterday late morning to say there was a geyser spraying from her roof.

Fortunately it was a quick and easy fix of $100. I told her to look into some sort of insulation for the exposed section of pipe.

TheManInTheMac

(985 posts)
66. Yes, very strange. One of my neighbors was washing his car in shorts and a tee shirt.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:16 PM
Jan 2013

I have no idea why he would dress his car that way, but to each his own.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
70. I totally understand.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jan 2013

You folks are unprepared for this kind of weather. It's like us in a heat wave - I and many neighbors have no AC.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
72. You'd think they would at least issue a few precautionary measures.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jan 2013

Like emptying garden hoses, covering plants, and providing shelters for the homeless.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
73. You think they even got a clue?
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jan 2013

Will call my sis and tell her to let her faucets drip overnight...where she lives she could get busted pipes.

Though the shelters-are open...thank st Vincent de paiul and father joes.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
75. How cold is it looking to go down to?
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:48 PM
Jan 2013

If it's only down to the 20's, pipes are unlikely to freeze overnight. But it doesn't hurt to be safe.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
76. Mid 20s...second night of bellow freezing
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 07:50 PM
Jan 2013

The spell includes tomorrow. Been a "wild" week.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
82. Ah. It might be a good idea to wrap the outdoor hose faucets with a towel.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:17 PM
Jan 2013

That's a likely location for freezing.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
83. I sent email to brother in law
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:18 PM
Jan 2013

He grew up in Norman Ok...he should know.

I live in a condo...near the coast.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
97. That sucks.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:50 PM
Jan 2013

I guess you will have to use the drip method. I would consider wrapping the garden hose faucets on the outside with a towel after running water through them. That will slow down the cooling.

Here in the Northeast, we use a specific type of faucet that is freeze resistant. They claim freeze proof, but it took some damage on one after -10 lows for three days.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
94. I know what to do: crank up all 3 piddly little wall heaters with
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:45 PM
Jan 2013

their piddly little fans in my apartment and dress warmly and take a hot bath before bed, then pile the blankets and cats on. This place, like most pre-1980s housing in Los Angeles, has virtually NO insulation.

And we've had over a week down below freezing at night now, and only in the 40s during the day for two weeks.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
99. I try to keep it at about 65, I can handle that without being uncomfortable.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:17 PM
Jan 2013

If I wanted it 72 I would have to run the heat 24/7 and the electric bill would top $1000. And No, I'm not kidding. And this is a 1 BR apartment.

At least we don't have howling winds and rain with it. Then it's hard to get it above 60.

If I have the heaters set too low it will drop to under 50 inside in just a couple of hours. ZERO insulation.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
102. Ouch. Electric heat.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:22 PM
Jan 2013

I lived with that for a while in an apt. It's quite pricy. I normally keep my house (1500 sqft) at 68, but with natural gas it's only about $220 max in winter. I have insulation, but the house is old.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
104. Yeah. Apartment owners don't want gas anywhere near their property,
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:35 PM
Jan 2013

I suppose. But the least they could do is insulate. Since they aren't the ones paying the electric bill, they couldn't care less. The codes got upgraded over the years, but Pre-80s stock like my place doesn't have to be retrofitted.

On the up side, it does have the tiniest bit of architectural character, which is completely missing from newer places. And the rooms are bigger. New apartments are microscopic.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
111. The older places have those gas-fired little wall heaters. I liked those.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:12 PM
Jan 2013

Very energy efficient.

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
79. Wish I had a freeze warning in South Florida
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jan 2013

Mid 80s and humid, which is about 10/15 degrees above normal. It seems the entire east coast is warmer that usual.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
89. It definitely is.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:44 PM
Jan 2013

Of course, these patterns do happen from time to time, but they do seem to be becoming a tad more common, too, from what I've seen so far.....strange, isn't it?

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
92. When I lived in Miami, we had one freeze warning,
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jan 2013

and there were cars lined up at the gas stations getting anti-freeze. I do remember one time that I was scraping ice off my windshield. But now I live in North Georgia and we have frequent freeze warnings. But for the past few days it has been in the high 60s and lower 70s.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
81. It's cold in IE also
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jan 2013

The ground was frozen this morning. We have three dogs and my job today has to been door opener and closer. Usually, they love being outdoors. Five minutes is a long time for them today. My 90+ pound one has suddenly decided he is a lap dog. Out tomato plants were still producing but I think they may be toast after tonight.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
91. The last few of years they have
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:06 PM
Jan 2013

I have no idea why. Every year one or two may die but the others will last. We have one plant full of green ones now. We also have an insane cherry tomato plant although the tomatoes are tiny at this point. We thought we had pulled it out but it came back and gives tomatoes about the size of your thumb nail. Each year the tomatoes will get smaller though. Our lemon tree used to produce all year around also but we lost it last year.

NutmegYankee

(16,478 posts)
93. You must live close enough to the original habitat.
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:19 PM
Jan 2013

Tomatoes are perennials in their native habitat. They just can't last with the cold in most of the world. Glad they still produce. As for the smaller growth, have you tested the soil for nutrients?

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
107. We do also
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 12:35 AM
Jan 2013

I was raised in Iowa and my parents loved to garden. Growing your food is satisfying. I was able to freeze a lot this year as well as swap food with the neighbors. I love planting, digging and caring for the yard.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
96. Maters are gonna be black tomorrow. Go pull the green ones
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 09:48 PM
Jan 2013

tonight and make fried green tomatoes, or pickle them, or keep then to maybe ripen.

Irishonly

(3,344 posts)
101. We got a lot of them
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 10:21 PM
Jan 2013

I also put covers on them. Forget the humans-we are doing what we can. Every plant I could cover is covered.

Warpy

(114,615 posts)
84. Yeah, expect oranges to get really expensive, along with most produce
Sat Jan 12, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jan 2013

Here in NM, we might get above freezing by Tuesday. Might. By two degrees F.

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
109. 38 degrees in Anchorage at almost midnight.
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 04:52 AM
Jan 2013

It's supposed to be mid 40s tomorrow. Come join us in the banana belt.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
112. -4 on my back porch here in So. Cal. last night, while elsewhere in Bear Valley
Sun Jan 13, 2013, 05:14 PM
Jan 2013

it got as low as -11.

Ain't no thang...

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