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Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:18 PM Jan 2013

One of the best things about President Obama's gun control plan...

...is lifting the virtual ban on research into gun-related violence by the CDC. The CDC is well-positioned to carry out this research, and is such a high-visibility organization that it would be very, very difficult for any published results to be significantly compromised by political agendas. The prior situation, in which the NRA effectively shut down this avenue of research (check out this MSNBC article), was completely unacceptable.

As a country, we tend to approach this issue from a standpoint of insufficient knowledge of what's actually happening and in a state of high emotion. Good, objective research into this problem is essential. Good job, Mr. Prez.

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One of the best things about President Obama's gun control plan... (Original Post) Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 OP
While Obama instructed the CDC to continue Gun/violence studies... OneTenthofOnePercent Jan 2013 #1
I believe that's the case, yes. Lizzie Poppet Jan 2013 #7
Post removed Post removed Jan 2013 #2
B/S. N/T. actslikeacarrot Jan 2013 #4
Anti-VAX rubbish. nt longship Jan 2013 #5
Agreed; this is great Recursion Jan 2013 #3
Research is the "sleeper" out of the EOs rightsideout Jan 2013 #6
Legislation censoring topics of inquiry ought to be unconstitutional phantom power Jan 2013 #8
K & R Scurrilous Jan 2013 #9
 

OneTenthofOnePercent

(6,268 posts)
1. While Obama instructed the CDC to continue Gun/violence studies...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:24 PM
Jan 2013

Doesn't funding and allocated funds for the studies STILL have to be voted on and approved by congress?

So the president says, "Continue the gun studies"
The CDC responds, "Sure, where's the money to to the work?"
And congress says, "???"

 

Lizzie Poppet

(10,164 posts)
7. I believe that's the case, yes.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:38 PM
Jan 2013

It remains to be seen if opposition to such funding arises (in eh House, I'd assume). I hope it doesn't...but I wouldn't put it past the NRA to try and stifle it.

Personally, that infuriates me (and as many know, I'm a gun owner). If sound science is telling you things you don't want to hear, then it's time to adjust your expectations, not stifle the science.

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rightsideout

(978 posts)
6. Research is the "sleeper" out of the EOs
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:37 PM
Jan 2013

The NRA has been attempting to stop studies for years. Their excuse being gun accident and fatality stats will drive up insurance rates.

What I really like is the direct slap in the face at the NRA in EO 16 which says that doctors can now ask their patients if they have a gun in the house since it is a possible safety issue. Before, they could ask about dogs, cats and smoking if you have Asthma but couldn't mention guns as far as possible safety issues. There was wording slipped into the ACA that had mentioned doctors couldn't directly record this information or ask it. I'm not exactly sure how it went but it was only a line or two out of the thousands of pages in the ACA.

So I know the NRA is probably mad as hell about #16. It made my day reading that EO.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
8. Legislation censoring topics of inquiry ought to be unconstitutional
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 05:48 PM
Jan 2013

it's just completely antithetical to democracy to declare entire areas of research to be "forbidden" It's fucking ridiculous

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