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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:55 PM Jan 2013

New Hampshire Poll Shows Majority Supports Legalizing Marijuana

http://blog.norml.org/2013/01/16/new-poll-shows-huge-support-for-marijuana-law-reform-in-new-hampshire/

An overwhelming majority wants to decriminalize - but a majority also supports flat out legalization and regulation. AND a politicians stance on this issue influences voter opinion. Hope the feds can tell which way the wind blows - cause it ain't toward blowing off this issue.

Polling data released this week by Public Policy Polling shows a large base of support for marijuana law reforms in New Hampshire. Not only is there majority support from New Hampshire voters for the medical use of marijuana and decriminalizing its possession, but more than half support regulating and taxing marijuana in a manner similar to alcohol.

When asked if they would support or oppose changing New Hampshire law to regulate and tax marijuana similarly to alcohol, where stores would be licensed to sell marijuana to adults 21 and older, 53% responded they would support this law and only 37% were opposed.

62% stated that they would support a change in the law to provide for a fine of up to $100 without jail time or the threat of arrest for those who possess an ounce or less of marijuana and 68% support allowing for its physician supervised use. Even more enlightening, 52% stated an elected official’s support of medical marijuana made them more likely to support them.

Fortunately for New Hampshire lawmakers, they have the opportunity to capitalize on this groundswell of support for sensible marijuana laws. Legislation has already been introduced to decriminalize the possession of marijuana and a separate measure has been introduced to allow patients to use marijuana for medical purposes. The incoming governor has even voiced her support for legalizing medical use.




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New Hampshire Poll Shows Majority Supports Legalizing Marijuana (Original Post) RainDog Jan 2013 OP
Hawaii - ACLU - 57% polled in favor of legalization and regulation RainDog Jan 2013 #1
Live High Or Die n/t RomneyLies Jan 2013 #2
new state motto. I like it. has a good beat and I can dance to it. n/t RainDog Jan 2013 #6
Works for me! stultusporcos Jan 2013 #10
Arizona - 59% want legal, regulated cannabis. RainDog Jan 2013 #3
The problem is that we do not live in a democracy. We live in a republic where those we rhett o rick Jan 2013 #4
Ballot measures have change the law thus far RainDog Jan 2013 #9
It's sad when the "elephant in the living room" is a Democratic President. nm rhett o rick Jan 2013 #18
Congress is entity that is keeping bad law on the books RainDog Jan 2013 #20
The DoJ works for the President. He has the power to change their priorities. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #21
Yes. But I'm saying - put the blame where it belongs RainDog Jan 2013 #22
Of course the Congress has my ire. But the Congress is controlled by republicans. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #23
Not at all RainDog Jan 2013 #24
Pennsylvania State Senator Prefiles Marijuana Legalization Bill RainDog Jan 2013 #5
Two Southern States Show Majority Support for Medical Marijuana RainDog Jan 2013 #7
"Percentage of New Hampshirites who smoke pot: 14.88" limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #8
that would fall within a normal range of 12% estimated nationwide RainDog Jan 2013 #11
And that's just the people who will reveal it to a pollster. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #12
Yes. I think usage is greater than polls reveal RainDog Jan 2013 #14
and, just to note... RainDog Jan 2013 #16
Yep. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #17
LOL RainDog Jan 2013 #19
Baked Alaska wins the highest usage award RainDog Jan 2013 #13
But then you get months of just sun, so maybe it balances out or something. limpyhobbler Jan 2013 #15
 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
4. The problem is that we do not live in a democracy. We live in a republic where those we
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:58 PM
Jan 2013

elect decide on what the laws are. Some times they reflect popular opinion and some times they favor lobbyists.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
9. Ballot measures have change the law thus far
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:09 PM
Jan 2013

but, after a while, local legislators, at least, have to respond to the will of the voters.

Federal policy is like the elephant in the living room.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
20. Congress is entity that is keeping bad law on the books
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:26 PM
Jan 2013

Obama has stated Congress has set the law - this is the truth.

Of course, the DoJ could re-schedule tomorrow - which would make Congress' lack of action moot.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
21. The DoJ works for the President. He has the power to change their priorities.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:44 PM
Jan 2013

He is directly responsible. As Pres Truman said, "The buck stops here". Holder does the president's bidding.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
22. Yes. But I'm saying - put the blame where it belongs
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 09:58 PM
Jan 2013

Because the reality is that Congress is the entity that makes or changes laws.

They are responsible for keeping this shitty law on the books for years. They are the ones who deserve your ire, more than the President.

That's the real truth. Should you expect a President to tell Congress he's going to undo the law without first looking at the people who are refusing to honor the will of the people in the states that elected them?

That seems backassward to me.

The ones who should be held accountable are the ones who are elected to represent the people of various states. Let all the Representatives from all the states that have changed their laws take up the task of changing the way Congress deals with this.

Let them ask, on national tv, why one guy on the judicial committee, some Republican worm from Texas, held up discussion of a decrim bill in 2011, for instance.

The problem is that politicians are not leaders.

That's why everyday people have had to lead this fight.

We see that an overwhelming majority of Americans, for more than a decade, have supported legal medical mj. Yet Congress continues to walk around with its head up its arse on this issue.

They don't have the courage to go up against the bureaucracies with power in DC, such as the DEA.

They prefer to ruin people's lives, cause human suffering, and make themselves look like cowards rather than deal with bad law.

It's been this way for a while. It was this way with Clinton, too.

Congress is shirking its responsibility to the American public.

Of course, in rural areas of the nation, Congress people may like the bad law b/c it brings money to their districts via for-profit prisons, too. So, they're not just shirking the law, they're keeping law that is no different than slavery on the books, in its ability to deprive someone of their rights, their assets, their living, in order to allow a few assholes to turn a profit.

Ain't that America, tho?

However, knowing how horrid this system is, YES. I DO think the executive branch should change the law by rescheduling.

I know, however, that Obama doesn't care about this issue because he doesn't like the "stoner stereotype" that goes along with it in the media. Maybe he thinks marijuana should not be legal - he said the same.

So - it gets back to state and local-level political changes that make it impossible for the feds to continue their actions without becoming the laughing stocks of the entire nation (which they already are regarding this issue, but they don't seem to care - must pay well.)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
23. Of course the Congress has my ire. But the Congress is controlled by republicans.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jan 2013

We have a Democratic President that has the power to not be aggressive about the enforcement of federal medical marijuana laws. You try to make is sound like he is powerless and forced persecute medical marijuana dispensers. That's wrong. He could direct the DoJ to back off. But he isnt.

The are much more important issues for the DoJ to spend their resources. The DoJ is spending lots of resources on sending these people to prison while the Wall Street criminals are not being investigated at all. That's the president's call. He clearly doesnt like medical marijuana users.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
24. Not at all
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 12:56 AM
Jan 2013

I didn't say he was powerless. I've even posted here about the way that the DoJ could reschedule cannabis. It's here - http://www.democraticunderground.com/117069

I think the reality is that the President would prefer if marijuana were decriminalized. I don't think he supports legalization

Removing cannabis from the drug schedule would go toward decriminalizing - so there's no doubt it's a good idea even if you're for halfway measures. Most moderates are like that, in their thinking.

But, honestly, I don't think this is much on the radar right now with the gun issue what it is.

I entirely agree there are better ways for the DoJ to spend their resources - but, again, this is politics - with people's lives, but politics, and I have no doubt that the DEA, etc. is having its say and lobbying for its pov. Same with the Drug Czar, as we've seen lately. Same with this think with Patrick Kennedy, imo.

As I noted before, Democrats aren't the best party for the legalization movement, except when the other party is the Republicans.



RainDog

(28,784 posts)
5. Pennsylvania State Senator Prefiles Marijuana Legalization Bill
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:00 PM
Jan 2013

Public approves.

http://blog.norml.org/2013/01/09/pennsylvania-representative-prefiles-marijuana-legalization-bill-pennsylvanians-approve/

Last week, state Senator from Montgomery County Daylin Leach announced his intentions to file legislation that would legalize the adult use of marijuana, in a way similar to the laws recently approved in Colorado and Washington.

“I acknowledge that it may take a while, but like same-sex marriage,” stated Sen. Leach, “this will inevitably happen. Demographics and exposure will in time defeat irrational fears, old wives tales and bad science. This bill furthers the discussion, which hastens the day.”

This legislation, if approved, would help halt the arrest of thousands of Pennsylvanians annually. Since 2006, 24,685 arrests were made for just marijuana possession at a cost of over 300 million dollars to the state’s taxpayers.

...Pennsylvania has long been considered a bellwether state, so to see the issue at least being entertained in the state legislature can only be a positive sign of things to come. Let’s hope other elected officials in Pennsylvania join with state Senator Leach to support these sensible reforms.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
7. Two Southern States Show Majority Support for Medical Marijuana
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:06 PM
Jan 2013
http://blog.norml.org/category/cat-legislation/

You can also find links for various legislatures/actions at this link and links to polling data.

In another sign of the changing times, this past week two new polls have been released demonstrating majority support for allowing the medical use of marijuana in two southern states, a region historically less supportive of cannabis law reforms.

A poll conducted by Public Policy Polling revealed that most North Carolinians believe that a doctor should possess the legal option to authorize marijuana for patients. Support for legalizing medical marijuana is at 58% overall, with 33% opposed and 9% undecided. A majority of every age group under age 65 supports allowing for the medical use of marijuana. The poll surveyed 608 North Carolina voters between January 10 and January 13, 2013.

Another Public Policy Polling survey had the majority of West Virginians supporting the medical use of cannabis, 53% in favor to 40% opposed. Further, when asked which is a safer treatment for debilitating pain: the medical use of marijuana or Oxycontin, 63% responded medical marijuana.
Legislation to allow for the medical use of cannabis is expected to be introduced in both states this year. If you live in North Carolina, you can currently use NORML’s Take Action Center to write your elected officials...

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
12. And that's just the people who will reveal it to a pollster.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:14 PM
Jan 2013

I guess the real number would be higher.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
14. Yes. I think usage is greater than polls reveal
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:21 PM
Jan 2013

Because a lawyer with two kids and a mortgage has no incentive to admit to breaking the law, for instance, because he or she has a couple of puffs before bed...

There's an entire subset of females in power suits that lights up (and a few of them have admitted it.) Tho cannabis can give someone a healthy appetite, it has no calories, unlike alcohol.

Then there's mom and pop who light up before making sweet, sweet suburban love after they put the kids to bed...

It's hard to get accurate data on any illegal activity.

Since marijuana laws allow the govt. to confiscate every asset you own, who would be willing to admit to using it? I wouldn't fault anyone who uses common sense regarding law in this regard.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
16. and, just to note...
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:28 PM
Jan 2013

I know people who fit into those descriptors above - this includes lawyers, doctors, professors, scientists, business owners, and more than one millionaire - who, tho I may not be best of friends with them, I know are part of the demographic.

They all think the current law is so worthless that they choose to ignore it.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
17. Yep.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:34 PM
Jan 2013

I've known many moms and dads of the suburbs, and in the city, and rural, to smoke it. It really cuts across every demographic. Rich and poor. Black, white and brown. White collar and blue collar. Young and old. Male and female. Basically weed is what unites us as a people. God bless America.

RainDog

(28,784 posts)
13. Baked Alaska wins the highest usage award
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:16 PM
Jan 2013

It must be difficult to live without sunlight for months. I don't think I could tolerate it.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
15. But then you get months of just sun, so maybe it balances out or something.
Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:26 PM
Jan 2013

Alaska is sounding better all the time, via global warming. I always wanted to go there ever since Northern Exposure. OTOH they did elect Sarah Palin.

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