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Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:37 PM Jan 2013

Republicans Who Tout Mental Health As Response To Gun Violence Opposed Landmark Mental Health Law

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/01/17/1460601/republicans-claim-mental-health-gun-violence-solution/?mobile=nc

As Republicans rushed to oppose President Obama’s gun violence prevention proposals on Wednesday, several lawmakers released statements echoing the National Rifle Association’s suggestion that “fixing our broken mental health system” is actually the best way to prevent future gun crimes. But when Congress considered a landmark mental health access bill in 2008, many of the same Republicans voted against it.

Accessing mental health services in the United States is harder than accessing a gun. In 2008, Congress took a step toward addressing that issue by passing the long-delayed Paul Wellstone and Pete Domenici Mental Health Parity and Addiction Equity Act, which required most health insurance plans to start treating mental health services in the same way they treat all other medical care. The bill included exemptions for small businesses and those who opted not to cover mental health coverage at all, but House Republicans still overwhelmingly opposed the effort, 145 to 47.

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Republicans Who Tout Mental Health As Response To Gun Violence Opposed Landmark Mental Health Law (Original Post) Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 OP
This is utterly shocking. Cali_Democrat Jan 2013 #1
I know! When CA Gov. Ahnold (R) voted to cut mental health budgets by 60%, he was trying to help! Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #4
Having done without mental health themselves all these years, Jackpine Radical Jan 2013 #19
No one could have predicted that. Scuba Jan 2013 #2
I've Been Waiting For That To Surface HangOnKids Jan 2013 #3
is anybody surprised by this repug stupidity samsingh Jan 2013 #5
Beyond Stupidity They Are Flat Evil and Craven kairos12 Jan 2013 #6
worse than that even samsingh Jan 2013 #20
No But I'm Sure The Pukes Think Everyone Will Be So Impressed HangOnKids Jan 2013 #8
"Accessing mental health services in the U.S. is harder than accessing a gun." yardwork Jan 2013 #7
^^^^^THIS^^^^^ n/t HangOnKids Jan 2013 #9
And guess who's paying for it - not them. freshwest Jan 2013 #15
dismantling the social safety net and then shooting the results is their goal phantom power Jan 2013 #10
To live like kings and queens and the rest of us as terrified peasants? Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #13
This can't be overstressed. They used to leave plausible deniability Recursion Jan 2013 #22
"Accessing mental health services in the United States is harder than accessing a gun." etherealtruth Jan 2013 #11
Typical RepubliWanker horseshit Berlum Jan 2013 #12
Didnt Reagan slash mental health/institition funding too?? ErikJ Jan 2013 #14
Yep. A very good point. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #16
Saint Ronnie was Governor of California when he did that Hekate Jan 2013 #18
Yep. And then Republican mayors used the resulting fallout as an excuse to force poor people... Recursion Jan 2013 #21
The country might wake up sane some morning, and then where would we be? Hekate Jan 2013 #17
One kick. Fire Walk With Me Jan 2013 #23
It's nothing but smoke and mirrors LeftInTX Jan 2013 #24
Let's just make it harder for the mentally ill to get a gun! Problem solved! ck4829 Jan 2013 #25
 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
1. This is utterly shocking.
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:41 PM
Jan 2013

Republicans overwhelmingly opposed a law that helped certain people get more access to mental health care?

That can't possibly be true.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
19. Having done without mental health themselves all these years,
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:02 PM
Jan 2013

they saw no reason why anyone else should have it.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
3. I've Been Waiting For That To Surface
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:48 PM
Jan 2013

Poor dears wailing "mental health" because it is the only way for them to deflect and distract people from putting GUNS into the equation, of course they voted against anyTHING that would have helped people. That why they are RePukeliCONS.

 

HangOnKids

(4,291 posts)
8. No But I'm Sure The Pukes Think Everyone Will Be So Impressed
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jan 2013

With their new compassion, all of their past history will just go POOF. They are incredibly STUPID. It hurts my head to try and understand.

yardwork

(69,466 posts)
7. "Accessing mental health services in the U.S. is harder than accessing a gun."
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:07 PM
Jan 2013

And the Republicans built that.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
10. dismantling the social safety net and then shooting the results is their goal
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:08 PM
Jan 2013

They *want* a distopian future with no safety net, a giant underclass and lawlessness. Where they can live out their fantasies of fighting off the roving hordes of poor lawless people. It'll be the ultimate live action video game.

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
13. To live like kings and queens and the rest of us as terrified peasants?
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:15 PM
Jan 2013

I've been saying that for a few years now as well.

Is it too speculative to tie this into the increasing meme of "Americans as terrorists" being used to slowly turn the country into a police state, with private prisons (funded by taxpayer dollars) advertising 90% occupancy rates? (Thanks to the "war on drugs".) Now they've got a new target.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
22. This can't be overstressed. They used to leave plausible deniability
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:33 PM
Jan 2013

But not anymore. It's what they explicitly want to do.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
11. "Accessing mental health services in the United States is harder than accessing a gun."
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:10 PM
Jan 2013

This should sicken and disgust everyone!

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
12. Typical RepubliWanker horseshit
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 07:11 PM
Jan 2013

They just are not serious people. Congenital liars and fakers.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
14. Didnt Reagan slash mental health/institition funding too??
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:11 PM
Jan 2013

Kicking the mentally ill to homelessness?

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
18. Saint Ronnie was Governor of California when he did that
Thu Jan 17, 2013, 08:36 PM
Jan 2013

It must have seemed like such a good idea at the time: empty out the state hospitals, give the former patients a fistful of those nice new drugs to help stabilize them, and install them in a network of halfway houses. Save lots of money.

The problem was they skipped the second to last part: the halfway houses were never adequately funded at all.

We went from having almost no street beggars/homeless to having a very visible number. The County jails became the de facto mental health facilities as mentally ill were repeatedly picked up for minor infractions and then released back into the wild. Jailers had to be given courses in how to handle the mentally ill (differently from the common criminal as I am sure you can figure out).

It is worthwhile to ponder the meaning of the old-fashioned term "insane asylum." "Asylum" means a place of safety.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
21. Yep. And then Republican mayors used the resulting fallout as an excuse to force poor people...
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:32 PM
Jan 2013

... out of neighborhoods they wanted to gentrify.

Sigh.

LeftInTX

(34,547 posts)
24. It's nothing but smoke and mirrors
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:28 PM
Jan 2013

They like to blame others for the problems they cause, just so they can cause more problems.

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