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Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:33 PM Jan 2013

Django Unchained slave toys pulled (selling for high prices on ebay now)




Toy maker NECA has halted production of Django Unchained action figures after consumers and US civil-rights activists called them discriminatory and exploitative.

The 20-centimetre figurines in question depict slave characters Django, Broomhilda and Stephen from the Quentin Tarantino revenge flick set in the Deep South during the 1800s.

As producers of the film, The Weinstein Company asked NECA to discontinue the line when groups like Al Sharpton's National Action Network, the NAACP and Project Islamic Hope launched complaints.

TMZ reported that NECA had produced only about 1000 toys before they were discontinued.

'We feel that it trivialises the horrors of slavery and what African Americans experienced,' PIH director Najee Ali told the Daily Mail.

'Tarantino and Weinstein didn't have action figures for their movie Inglourious Basterds because they know the Jewish community would never allow it, and the African-American community shouldn't allow anyone to disrespect our ancestors.'

http://www.skynews.com.au/showbiz/article.aspx?id=837065

http://sdcc.co/pop-culture/tv/necas-django-unchained-toys-bring-in-big-money-on-ebay/
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Django Unchained slave toys pulled (selling for high prices on ebay now) (Original Post) Liberal_in_LA Jan 2013 OP
Oh please. cthulu2016 Jan 2013 #1
You took the words right out of my mouth. zappaman Jan 2013 #3
Meanwhile you can buy pickaninny dolls all up and down New Orleans CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #2
Don't forget lawn jockeys. zappaman Jan 2013 #4
Let's just pretend slavery didn't exist... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #5
African-Americans' ancestors are from Africa there_is_no_spoon Jan 2013 #6
Wow you have problems. Kalidurga Jan 2013 #7
I did not say there_is_no_spoon Jan 2013 #10
First off I am going to say I am sorry... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #16
Why did you say "Wow you have problems" to a DUer? yardwork Jan 2013 #13
When one person thinks they speak for all, Kalidurga Jan 2013 #15
Where did the poster claim to be speaking for all? yardwork Jan 2013 #17
I might be misunderstanding, probably am... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #18
I don't see any sweeping generalizations about the dolls in the post to which you replied. yardwork Jan 2013 #19
I considered editing... Kalidurga Jan 2013 #20
Well, you have a certain amount of charm, and you did apologize. yardwork Jan 2013 #22
Hooper X... is that you? Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #9
I don't know who... there_is_no_spoon Jan 2013 #11
Missing a good one Fla_Democrat Jan 2013 #12
Why did you post this? yardwork Jan 2013 #14
Inglourious Basterds movie did have actions figures made Hestia Jan 2013 #8
They even have Nazi action figures from Inglourious Basterds... PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #26
Boy, if Foxx had a good agent this will cost him a lot of money! nolabear Jan 2013 #21
Hey, PIH director Najee Ali, just an FYI: Behind the Aegis Jan 2013 #23
I don't get it. Beacool Jan 2013 #24
"slave toys"??? Matariki Jan 2013 #25

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
1. Oh please.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

The Django figure doesn't appear to have one fucking thing to do with slavery. He has a GUN, for pete's sake.

There is no upside to pretending that people of color did not exist before 1963.

They both appear to be very dignified dolls. They are not tied to a whipping post or picking cotton or something. They are toys... of black people... in cowboy era clothing.

Whatever. Next step is taking Hattie McDaniels' Oscar back I guess.

zappaman

(20,627 posts)
3. You took the words right out of my mouth.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:38 PM
Jan 2013

Ridiculous.

Wish I had one for the resale value though...

CBGLuthier

(12,723 posts)
2. Meanwhile you can buy pickaninny dolls all up and down New Orleans
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 07:37 PM
Jan 2013

Nothing exploitative about that shit either I suppose.

I like the way the complainant brought up the jews. So fucking subtle.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. Let's just pretend slavery didn't exist...
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:08 PM
Jan 2013

This is ridiculous. What if people want to give them to their children as a reminder of where they are from.

6. African-Americans' ancestors are from Africa
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 09:49 PM
Jan 2013

My ancestors are not "from slavery."

A huge problem in this country is that many African-American children (as well as Caucasians) only know about Africans as far as them being forced into slavery. They know very little about the great civilizations that existed on the Continent while or before their ancestors were snatched.

Why not make dolls referencing that time period? Why not make movies referencing that time period?

I find your comment absurd... the fact that you edited it makes no contextual difference.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
7. Wow you have problems.
Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jan 2013

My ancestors weren't slaves either. But, a lot of people do have ancestors that were slaves. And I see nothing wrong with them wanting a doll that depicts that time in their past.

And why indeed do we not make dolls that reference what happened in the Caribbean or Colonial times or the time after slavery when Jim Crow was law? Maybe it is because that isn't what the movie Django was about. So, make some movies that talk about those times, I have no problem with that and market some dolls to reflect that. Or just make the dolls, I really don't care if peopl want them they should have them.

Oh by the way, why do I need a contextual reference to an edit. I used the wrong word and no I am not putting it back.

10. I did not say
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 10:44 AM
Jan 2013

that my ancestors were not slaves. I said that they were not "from slavery" meaning that our history did not begin on the plantation...which is the meaning I gathered from your post. Was I wrong? Did I misunderstand your sentiment?

Africans were not from slavery. African-Americans are not from slavery. Nor did our history begin during colonial times or during Jim Crow. Believing that African-Americans or their children come from slavery would be like believing Europeans come from hordes of roaming savages and from nowhere else. I have an idea! Let's make dolls depicting those marauding brutes sucking blood from the throats of their victims and let's get rid of all those cute Barbies. {sarcasm}

I must have lost the page of my rule book that states that dolls have to be made because a movie was made. I do have a problem with the slave dolls being manufactured when they present a limited view that young African-American children, whose daily lives are already heavily weighted, get to see and then compare with themselves.

From my understanding, the people who manufactured those slaves dolls were the producers of the movie...not African-Americans. That the producers heard the criticism and have stopped manufacturing those dolls ought to tell everyone here something. As an African-American here telling you the dolls were/are offensive ought to be another clue.

As far as your edit is concerned, I'm happy to know that you do not think that slavery is a thing that should be celebrated by the children of former slaves...even though that was --apparently-- your first thought. Here's another clue for you: the only people who ever celebrated slavery were slave masters or their ilk.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
16. First off I am going to say I am sorry...
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jan 2013

I didn't mean to offend anyone with my first post on this thread. I didn't mean that African Americans came from slavery. But, it is a part of many African Americans past. I think that pulling the dolls in a way is like pretending it didn't exist.

When I used the word celebrate, I wasn't thinking oh Yippee we were slaves. I was thinking in terms of Wow look what we survived and honoring that survival. But, after I posted I realized some people might have the impression I meant the former. Victims of abuse are often told to honor that part of their life after they have gotten out of the situation. I wouldn't celebrate that either, the abuse part. But, I do feel that I should honor the survival part.

And it really doesn't mean something to me that the producers of those dolls were pressured into taking them off the shelves, unless I know who was applying the pressure. I don't think the producers of the movie meant to offend anyone either, that would be bad business. And they didn't take them off the shelves out of the goodness of their hearts or as a form of apology, it was a business decision. I am not sure that looking at the bottom line is the best way to make an ethical decision. Because if we do that then what does it say about the people selling them on Ebay, when they are reaping huge financial rewards in resale. And we don't know who is buying these dolls at a huge mark up or what their motives are.

I would also have no problem with a doll that looked like a white European dressed up in animal skins and perhaps sucking the blood from a fresh kill. I sort of doubt that happened but if someone wanted to depict that with a doll so be it. Many of my ancestors were likely savages. It is a fact that Europe became civilized much later than say the Indus Valley, China along the Yellow River and the Civilizations along the Nile. Meanwhile my ancestors were painting their faces blue and showing their butts to their enemies before they went into battle.

No ones family tree is without heroes, villains, victims and just people trying to get by. It is the human condition. I don't see the problem with acknowledging that and even in some cases saying look this is where we came from. It was very wrong of other people to put us in that situation and as a people we have yet to gain the equality that we are still fighting for.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
13. Why did you say "Wow you have problems" to a DUer?
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 11:02 AM
Jan 2013

I don't understand why a black person stating that they don't identify as being "from slavery" receives the response "you have problems." It seems offensive to me.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
18. I might be misunderstanding, probably am...
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:18 PM
Jan 2013

But, I saw sweeping generalizations that the dolls were offensive. I took that to mean universally offensive to the entire community.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
19. I don't see any sweeping generalizations about the dolls in the post to which you replied.
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:21 PM
Jan 2013

I see that you apologized. Maybe consider editing your post?

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
20. I considered editing...
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:24 PM
Jan 2013

But, I think it would be a disservice to anyone trying to follow the conversation. In real life we can't take back the boneheaded things we say. And trust me I say a lot of boneheaded things. Oh wait, you already know that.

11. I don't know who...
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 10:47 AM
Jan 2013

this fella is here who you are referencing and don't have time to watch your cutesy movie, Fla_DEM.

But, thanks anyway.

yardwork

(69,364 posts)
14. Why did you post this?
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 11:04 AM
Jan 2013

Are you saying that every black person on DU who reminds people that African American heritage involves a lot more than "being from slavery" reminds you of a movie caricature?

I can't see any way to interpret this post as being anything other than offensive. Help me out here.

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
8. Inglourious Basterds movie did have actions figures made
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 12:49 AM
Jan 2013

The Weinstein Company issued a statement on Friday saying all Tarantino films have related action figures, including the Second World War feature Inglourious Basterds.

'We have tremendous respect for the audience and it was never our intent to offend anyone,' the statement said, according to The Associated Press.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
21. Boy, if Foxx had a good agent this will cost him a lot of money!
Sat Jan 19, 2013, 03:26 PM
Jan 2013

SO few black hero figures, I can't imagine it not making some good royalties. And it doesn't look like a slave to me. It's a romantic hero who saves his love (and I'm hugely ambivalent about the kill spree but that's Tarrantino) and there are few of those out there.

Behind the Aegis

(56,108 posts)
23. Hey, PIH director Najee Ali, just an FYI:
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 12:24 AM
Jan 2013
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Action-Figures-/246/i.html?_ipg=25&_nkw=Inglourious+Basterds

So much for that comment: "'Tarantino and Weinstein didn't have action figures for their movie Inglourious Basterds because they know the Jewish community would never allow it..."

Beacool

(30,518 posts)
24. I don't get it.
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 03:00 AM
Jan 2013

Looking at the six dolls, I don't see anything wrong with them. BTW, there were dolls sold for Inglourious Basterds. They now cost plenty of money. Besides, how many AA action figures are out there? As usual, the overly sensitive PC police is out in force.

Matariki

(18,775 posts)
25. "slave toys"???
Sun Jan 20, 2013, 03:26 AM
Jan 2013

That's a really weird heading. They're characters in a movie, representing human beings - the heroes and villians of the movie - not 'slave toys'.

Personally, I find the article title more offensive than the dolls representing the movie's characters.

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