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A Nevada lawman is reportedly the focus of a grand jury investigation because of the controversial 2010 dashcam video above.
The camera was rolling as Henderson police Sergeant Brett Seekatz repeatedly kicked a driver in the head.
Officers later realized Adam Greene was experiencing diabetic shock.
Greene settled with the city for $300,000.
Seekatz was disciplined but still works for the department.
Because grand jury investigations are secret it's not clear what, if any, federal charges the officer will face.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/article/357230/28/Dashcam-shows-officer-beating-man-in-diabetic-shock
Shocking dashcam captures moment driver having diabetic shock was kicked FIVE times in the head by cop who thought he was drunk
Las Vegas police sergeant Brett Seekatz is seen beating Adam Greene after he was pulled over for driving erratically
Victim suffered fractured ribs and bruises all over his body
Was awarded a $292,500 settlement after the 2010 beating
Seekatz was 'disciplined' but not suspended from duty or demoted
Federal grand duty is now hearing evidence in the incident
The man is shown to be unresponsive when an officer walks up to him, cursing, and kicks him in the head.
He is then kneed in the ribs by other officers as he screams out in pain.
Paramedics arrived on the scene and Greene was treated for low blood sugar. He was later treated for fractured ribs and bruises all over his body including his face and scalp.
In February, Greene was awarded a $292,500 settlement in the beating case.
Seekatz was 'disciplined' at the time, according to a Henderson police department statement, but was not suspended from duty or demoted.
However, it was revealed Tuesday that a grand jury has been hearing evidence for months about the incident.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262746/Brett-Seekatz-beating-Federal-grand-jury-reviewing-case-officer-kicked-man-diabetic-shock-FIVE-times-dashboard-cam.html#ixzz2IOcWweGB
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elleng
(141,926 posts)WTF!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)
liberalhistorian
(20,904 posts)Even if he WAS drunk, you still, as a cop, do NOT kick repeatedly. There are other ways to handle them.
The problem is that cops are trained to be hammers, and when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail. There's little training to recognize things like diabetic shock and mental illness breakdowns so that they aren't mistaken for aggressive criminality or disorderliness, etc. Any kind of disability can be a problem if you're stopped by police, because a lot of disabilities can seem threatening. I'm not deaf, but I do have a hearing impairment which has caused problems a couple of times when I've been pulled over for traffic stops, because I'll sometimes not fully understand what they're saying and nervousness makes it even worse.
TexasTowelie
(127,226 posts)These officers should face prison time and never be allowed to hold any type of security job ever again.
msongs
(73,702 posts)
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....Any more broad-brush generalizations you would like to make tonight? How about all Blacks are rapists, or all gays are pedophiles, or all people in the military are trained killers?
Come on....you can do better than that.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)the beating or even report the incident later. Dashcam and cell phone cameras stand between citizen's heads and cop's boots.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)
Ikonoklast
(23,973 posts)
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)LOL
Dragonfli
(10,622 posts)The suburbs are even worse, unless you look like you "belong there", then they are most polite.
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)guy ends up with broken ribs and a head injury?
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....Unless you honestly believe ALL cops are bad, the percentages of bad cops starts to shrink a good bit when you look at entire departments or nationwide.
lame54
(39,714 posts)they know who they are but it's a club
and then they make their living arresting everyone else
broad enough for you?
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....but once again, bad cops make up a small minority of all cops.
And no, all good cops don't look the other way when bad cops are doing their thing.
Fredfon
(37 posts)It's the 99 percent making the 1 percent look bad.
Mariana
(15,623 posts)is one of the dangerous ones, or one of the corrupt ones, etc. You DO know that if he hurts you, his colleagues will cover for him no matter what he does to you.
Aristus
(72,128 posts)Hope they throw him under the jail!... 
kenny blankenship
(15,689 posts)took four burly peace officers just to hold him down. (And a fifth to kick him in the face repeatedly and yell, Stop resisting motherfucker! Stop resisting motherfucker! ) The Blue Knights had a close call there for sure. Back in my day we thought angel dust was bad!
TxDemChem
(1,924 posts)Matter of fact, put him with people he arrested if possible.
JI7
(93,563 posts)he wasn't a threat. the fucker just came up kicking him for no reason other than the fact that the cop is an asshole.
he should be fired. and settlement should have been at least a million.
pansypoo53219
(23,031 posts)actual drunk drivers need a 2x 4 to the head. WI is a hot bed of EIGHT TIMERS. ONCE taught my uncle. but check the breath 1st buddy.
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)the shit out of the people who piss you off. And then walk away.
mzmolly
(52,787 posts)
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)No probable cause. The only crime that took place is the one the POLICE committed.
mzmolly
(52,787 posts)speaks volumes as well. That man was not a threat, period. The other cops were accomplices IMO.
On a personal note, I can't help but be frightened to death when I see this shit. A loved one of mine is a type 1 diabetic (since a very young age.) When he goes into diabetic shock, he's frightened and often violent. He doesn't know who or where he is. I remember when he punched a paramedic in the jaw. ... I hate to think about the outcome for a man who wasn't so subdued?
Unfortunately this is not the first such incident I've read or heard about. 
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)I feel for you. It sucks that the police are not our friends. They are ego-maniacs who revel in their authority. I say this as a rich Jewish kid. I can only imagine what it's like in the "tougher" neighborhoods.
Mariana
(15,623 posts)in which the cops beat the shit out of someone. The same thing happens in every single one of them. If there are other cops on the scene, none of them ever takes even the slightest action to stop the abuse. They either stand around watching the show, or they jump in and join in the fun. Of course he felt comfortable doing this in front of a bunch of other cops. He KNEW they'd cover for him.
mzmolly
(52,787 posts)dictating acceptable police behavior, when a colleague behaves in such a manner. This, as you've indicated is far too common. Why?
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)completely ignored. In this case it's laws against assault and battery.
In UT this week it's stronger gun laws.
My grandfather, a deputy sheriff and small town chief of police (but a fair-minded Democrat) must be rolling in his grave.
PatSeg
(53,206 posts)was sitting unresponsive in his car??? Then the one cop kept saying "Is anyone hurt?" like they had just taken down the Hulk. I'd hate to have these guys show up if there really was any kind of danger. Pathetic.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)I dunno, maybe the poor guy you and your goons just assaulted?
MrScorpio
(73,772 posts)liberalhistorian
(20,904 posts)personally, without taking the time to determine just WHY a person might not be responsive or understand what's going on. I remember a case a few years ago (I think it might have been in Texas or AL, can't exactly remember now) where a man left his factory job early because he didn't feel well. A co-worker saw him sitting in his car, unmoving, and went out to check on him. He saidd he couldn't feel his legs, felt worse, was scared and needed help getting to the hospital. The co-worker immediately called 911. But the cops got there before the ambulance did and they just couldn't grasp the fact that the man literally could not physically move and was on the verge of unconciousness. One yelled at him to get out of the car and, when he couldn't, tasered him twice. Which ended up killing him. The co-workers who were present simply couldn't believe what they'd seen and called the cops on those cops, who ended up being fired and the city had to pay a huge settlement to the guy's family.
PatSeg
(53,206 posts)and those damn taser guns have got to go. They are being abused on a regular basis. What kind of training are these cops getting? Obviously the standards are too low and the training insufficient.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)Stupidity is no excuse for civilians, and it shouldn't be for cops, either.
mzmolly
(52,787 posts)horrible.
1620rock
(2,218 posts)
defacto7
(14,162 posts)MindPilot
(12,693 posts)
mzmolly
(52,787 posts)up that night.
ReRe
(12,189 posts)... the motorist should have been awarded more than that. The judge ruled on the city's side.
MattBaggins
(7,948 posts)but our American Media wants to portray teachers as evil thugs spawned by Satan himself.
MrScorpio
(73,772 posts)Cops do that shit all time, it's their carte blanche to get some licks in while they're overpowering some poor schlub.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)MrScorpio
(73,772 posts)Yep. They do that shit all the time
Thanks!
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Response to MrScorpio (Reply #17)
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Rex
(65,616 posts)This is why I love and believe in Karma.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Failing to stop abuse is abuse. They all participated in assault.
Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)Cops there arrested him for public drunkenness while he was walking down the sidewalk, because his gait wasn't perfectly steady. I guess he should have considered himself lucky he didn't get beaten up.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)
kas125
(2,483 posts)The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled this week that two East Chicago police officers did not act unreasonably in roughing up and arresting a diabetic driver who was suffering from a hypoglycemic episode.
Jerome Clement was an insulin-dependent Type 1 diabetic. His blood sugar periodically dropped, which could cause Clement to phase out, fall to the floor, and flail his arms in a non-combative manner.
On August 24, 2006, while driving to work, Clement turned his vehicle into the parking lot at a scrap yard and stopped on or near a truck scale. An employee approached and asked him to move, but he appeared not to hear what the employee said and responded in incomprehensible gibberish. Someone called 911 to report the incident. Clement eventually passed out at the wheel.
When East Chicago police officers arrived, they observed that Clement was unresponsive and his car smelled like beer, though there were no open containers. When Clement did not comply with their commands to step out of his car, the officers physically removed him, maced him two or three times, struck him four times with a baton to place handcuffs on him and prevent him from kicking his legs and flailing his arms, and kept him in the prone position until a paramedic arrived.
con't at http://blogs.findlaw.com/seventh_circuit/2011/08/diabetic-shock-east-chicago-civil-rights-claims-dismissed.html
DeschutesRiver
(2,359 posts)
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)you just have a low. I'm a type 1 too. Usually when we are having a low we are in the process of passing out and possibly going into a coma. Scary enough as it is.
Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)DFW
(60,148 posts)Without parole.
Last Stand
(472 posts)Without a uniform, anyone doing what they did would be locked up, and with good reason. General Pop would be a nice place to start.
But...I'm sure there are a million good reasons for 5 cops to kick the shit out of a medically impaired person. And plenty of rationale why Rambo popped out of his police tank, gun drawn and clearly ready to rumble. Absolutely not the first time these cops have done this.
Las Vegas must be proud.
RandiFan1290
(6,710 posts)They love to do this to people. It is a "legal" way to beat the shit out of their victims.
5 people all with knees in his body as they try to stretch his arms in extremely unnatural ways to get them behind his back.
All meant to cause extreme pain.
7 cops
All of them looked quite comfortable. They've done this to plenty of people. 
maryland native
(53 posts)How did we get to this point in the US with the police?
Does anyone remember the Norman Rockwell piece with what we need for police officers?
siligut
(12,272 posts)Cop beatings, gang rapes . . . group mentalities gone horribly wrong.
The victim should have gotten a whole lot more money and the guilty should be in jail, end of story.
DogPawsBiscuitsNGrav
(408 posts)threatened? I couldn't legally beat anyone for half the reasons they do and use the "I felt threatened" excuse. Does anyone know what that rule was and if it still applies to them.
How anyone can still trust these people is beyond me.
Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)So let me get this straight, three activists with no knowledge of any crime or the people who committed it are incarcerated for what will likely be months and maybe years for refusing to speak to a grand jury about their political activities, but a cop kicks the hell out of a diabetic man in a seizure, fracturing his ribs, and he gets "disciplined."
I still laugh at people who wonder why cops are so hated.
gulliver
(13,952 posts)Sure, there are going to be people doing rotten things like this video shows. It's all in the statistics. One video tell us nothing about police in general. The cop in this video probably felt like crap after he found the insulin.
You also have things like videos of mothers with Munchhausen Syndrome by Proxy deliberately smothering their infants so they can "save" them at the last minute. That doesn't mean mothers are bad people. Just some are.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)That's six out of six or 100% in this particular incident.
Fredfon
(37 posts)He felt so horrible he could not contain his laughter. (Watch and listen til the end of the video-sickening.)
gulliver
(13,952 posts)I don't interpret it the way you do. It looks to me like they find the insulin and they start to act like "oh shit." Now, the laughter at the end? It's disgusting, but it also sounds nervous, like somebody who knows he screwed up trying to break up a terrible sinking feeling.
The whole incident was ugly, incompetent, and disgusting. The way it looks to me is that the first cop started the ball rolling by responding poorly. He was scared and saw some guy acting disoriented and oddly and parked in an intersection. The cop interpreted the parked man's behavior as a threat instead of what it was, a medical emergency. For all he knew, the cop could have been dealing with an armed paranoid schizophrenic.
Should the cop have taken things a bit slower, calmed down, and assessed the situation from other angles? Sure. But maybe he is relatively new or not cut out to be a cop. Or maybe the guy in the car looked like he was fishing in his pockets for something (his insulin or, as the cop might think, a gun).
The other cops took their cue from the first. It became scared and angry cops forcibly subduing someone when who didn't need to be forcibly subdued.
These cops know they are on video, by the way. This was a very bad mistake committed by people who were scared and imperfect. And again, it says nothing about police in general.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Fuck these pigs...they're not worth you having to make excuses for them.
Rex
(65,616 posts)They should all be fired.
gulliver
(13,952 posts)I just think the FTP interpretation doesn't hold water. Most people would benefit from watching the movie Rashomon. I also think there are strong psychological health and artistic reasons for working hard mentally to understand the intentions and behavior of others.
mzmolly
(52,787 posts)And, that counts for what? Does 'remorse' get criminals off these days?
This video is about a single cop agreed, but the problem is far too wide spread.
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)
Dawson Leery
(19,568 posts)Next, the lazy bastards will go to the FOP and cry about how hard their jobs are and the FOP hall to laugh about this incident with their fellow porkers.
Take away their bloated pensions.
The cops in this case would never have it in them to deal with hardcore gangsters.
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Know your enemy.
GETTINGTIRED
(356 posts)for far too little...
idiots could have killed him....
lib2DaBone
(8,124 posts)Heck..spilling hot McDonald's coffee on your lap is worth more than that?
Auntie Bush
(17,528 posts)The cop belongs in jail for assault!
mzmolly
(52,787 posts)Agree on both counts.
Cynicus Emeritus
(172 posts)for these scum MFers that should be serving long sentences and as a convicted felon restricted from ever again carrying a firearm.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Ad the irony is that Nevada has some of the worst health coverage in the nation, so the diabetic guy probably couldn't get proper health care before the settlement.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Henderson cops exist so that LAPD has someone to point to and say, "At least we're not as bad as them".
Cynicus Emeritus
(172 posts)Do Americans still have the intestinal fortitude to give politicians and especially PDs a piece of their mind and candid opinion?
When we lose that ability and desire we've basically lost our country. That we citizens should tell our politicians and our police that we disapprove of their activities, is absolutely fundamental to our rights as a nation, but what do I know?
http://www.cityofhenderson.com/government/index.php
MindPilot
(12,693 posts)is one sure way to turn your life into a living hell.
And we've known for some time that giving a politician your opinion is an exercise in futility.
Iggo
(49,912 posts)They're the best!
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The video is actually from Nevada Highway Patrol, who initiated the stop. HPD just showed up to be helpful. Henderson cops are known thought the valley as being racist assholes. I've never had a problem with them, but I'm also a middle class white male. God forbid if you're poor or brown or in a poor or brown neighborhood, then your best bet might honestly be to run, whether you're doing anything wro or not. They also refuse to add dashboard cams, claiming alternately that it would be too expensive (though they want to raise the sales tax to give themselves a raise; they're already one of the highest paid police forces in the nation) or that it would "complicate prosecutions."
And lest you think I'm exaggerating or just hate cops: I've lived on this community for my whole life. The crime and corruption and nepotism and general incompetence pervades throughout most of the law enforcement here, and I've seen it first hand. In fact, in the 1990s Las Vegas Metro was ranked by the FBI as the most corrupt police department in the nation.
I honestly don't think the majority of cops would do this shit themselves, but virtually all of them would help cover it up.
Logical
(22,457 posts)Doing that in a ER and keeping their job!
Bombero1956
(3,539 posts)The man in question being a black male and not responding to a knock on the driver's side window had the cop break the window with his baton. The man a charter school principal was then dragged through the open window and given a few more pops to the head requiring stitches. That cop also thought the man was drunk when in fact the driver was having a diabetic episode. I do know that the driver filed a claim against the city for his injuries and false arrest but I don't know what the outcome of the case was.
kath
(10,565 posts)lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)datasuspect
(26,591 posts)that's why they go into law enforcement.
inside every cop is a scared little shitstain that used to get picked on in high school.
L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Comatose Sphagetti
(836 posts)"Just as every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners saints."
marsis
(301 posts)welcome to the new America.
raptor_rider
(1,014 posts)Shit out of me! My daughter is Type 1, insulin dependent. She never feels her lows until its almost pass out time. I'm scared for her to get her license to drive. We are home schooling her as to where the school RN's and teachers never paid close attention to her. She'd drop low everyday.