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So WHERE is the Filibuster stuff now at 9:30 PM? (Original Post) DryRain Jan 2013 OP
Ed Schultz commented on it. Cleita Jan 2013 #1
I don't think he has the votes to accomplish anything tularetom Jan 2013 #2
Which ones? Why? RETURNING TO OLD SENATE RULES DryRain Jan 2013 #5
If I knew I'd tell you tularetom Jan 2013 #9
Democrats should demand Reid step down DryRain Jan 2013 #3
Sad, isn't it. another_liberal Jan 2013 #11
Have to agree. But, at usual, guess there must be more to this Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2013 #13
The reason we are getting screwed: Democrats are not that... DryRain Jan 2013 #14
Well...Reid has certainly not impressed me ever...but, if he was that incompetent Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2013 #15
per TPM: annabanana Jan 2013 #4
an idea... Takket Jan 2013 #7
If this is true . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #8
The link below has some quotes from an aide ... Tx4obama Jan 2013 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Jan 2013 #6
Below is a link to a good update ... Tx4obama Jan 2013 #10

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
1. Ed Schultz commented on it.
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:44 PM
Jan 2013

He's pretty stunned that Reid has pretty much caved into McConnell again. There will be a small change to the rules forcing the Senate to hurry up on filibusters but not much else. Ed says he's going to dig into it more thoroughly for his show tomorrow.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
2. I don't think he has the votes to accomplish anything
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jan 2013

Some of the Senate Democrats are more than suspect.

 

DryRain

(237 posts)
5. Which ones? Why? RETURNING TO OLD SENATE RULES
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:53 PM
Jan 2013

which Senators are opposed to fair debates? Names!

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
9. If I knew I'd tell you
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:01 PM
Jan 2013

So I'm not gonna speculate except to say this.

I don't think Harry himself is too jazzed about drastic filibuster reform and he probably thinks some sort of tepid compromise bill might allow him to save face with those senators who stuck their necks out on this issue.

 

DryRain

(237 posts)
3. Democrats should demand Reid step down
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:51 PM
Jan 2013

This is unexcusable.

Harry Reid, too much a Mormon, too little a Democrat. He really is not competent for the job he holds, you can hear it in his voice, so weak. so timid. He is too influenced by his religion, not enough by the people all over America he pretends to serve.

This guy is so weak, I sort of hope he has to retire within a few days, let someone else take over and do the job he cannot ever have the balls to do.

A 55% majority in a legislative chamber, and all he can come up with is THAT?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
13. Have to agree. But, at usual, guess there must be more to this
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:06 PM
Jan 2013

than we know. Some factor that is causing us to get screwed again, as usual.

 

DryRain

(237 posts)
14. The reason we are getting screwed: Democrats are not that...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jan 2013

more courageous than Reupubicans

Harry Reid, one step better on the intelligence scale than any other human being, but Oh So timid that he bows to Boehenr and kisses his feet?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. Well...Reid has certainly not impressed me ever...but, if he was that incompetent
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:23 PM
Jan 2013

then why are the senate dems behind him?

annabanana

(52,804 posts)
4. per TPM:
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:52 PM
Jan 2013

Reid, McConnell Close To Filibuster Reform Deal - TPM

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2013/01/reid-mcconnell-close-to-filibuster-reform-agreement.php

Sahil Kapur January 23, 2013, 9:20 PM 1557

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) are nearing a bipartisan deal to enact minor changes to the filibuster, a source familiar with the negotiations tells TPM.

The deal, which is not yet final, makes very modest changes. It would permit the majority to bypass a filibuster on the motion to proceed to debate — if a group of senators on each side agree or if there’s a guarantee that both sides will get to offer amendments, the source said Wednesday evening.

It also includes an expedited process for some nominations and lowers the number of cloture motions required to go to conference with the House.

The emerging agreement reflects the plan that Sens. John McCain (R-AZ) and Carl Levin (D-MI) put forth to avoid further-reaching filibuster reform that proponents wanted. But it tweaks some aspects to address Democrats’ concerns that it would empower the minority to add poison pills to legislation.

The final unresolved detail in the negotiations between the two leaders involves the amount of post-cloture time for nominees, the source said, describing it as a minor hurdle.

A Republican aide plugged in to the negotiations declined to confirm or deny these details, signaling only that the deal wasn’t yet final.

“Members are discussing,” the source said.

Takket

(23,715 posts)
7. an idea...
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jan 2013

Someone should filibuster this "deal" without actually speaking. Oh... the irony...........

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
8. If this is true . . .
Wed Jan 23, 2013, 11:00 PM
Jan 2013

If this is true, then why bother? They might as well just go home for the night.

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