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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:28 PM Jan 2013

Missile launcher shows up at Seattle gun buyback

http://news.yahoo.com/missile-launcher-shows-seattle-gun-buyback-174331546.html

Seattle police worked with Army officials Monday to track down the history of a nonfunctional missile launcher that showed up at a weapons buyback program and determine whether it was legal or possibly stolen from the military....

The single-use device is a launch tube assembly for a Stinger portable surface-to-air missile and already had been used. As a controlled military item, it is not available to civilians through any surplus or disposal program offered by the government, according to Jamieson....

Police witnessed the private exchange of the military launch tube near the gun buyback event, where gun buyers tempted those standing in long lines to turn in their weapons with cash....

Officers saw guns changing private hands without knowing whether the person buying the gun had the legal right to buy it, and those transactions are occurring all the time, McGinn said.


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Missile launcher shows up at Seattle gun buyback (Original Post) KamaAina Jan 2013 OP
Fortunately It Was An Empty LAW Missile Tube Which Is A One Use Weapon. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2013 #1
Well, at least it was not the full unit. nadinbrzezinski Jan 2013 #2
That fourth paragraph you quoted is just as big a deal, imho Electric Monk Jan 2013 #3
That's called the "gun show loophole" n/t madville Jan 2013 #6
That's why I picked it KamaAina Jan 2013 #8
You can buy them on the internet madville Jan 2013 #4
You could probably make a sweet potato gun out of one of those NoOneMan Jan 2013 #5
Oh no, an empty plastic tube! davepc Jan 2013 #7
See post #3 above KamaAina Jan 2013 #9
Yes, can't have private party sales of empty plastic tubes. davepc Jan 2013 #10
"Officers saw guns changing private hands" KamaAina Jan 2013 #12
Yup. Senator Manchin is onboard with requiring background checks for private sales Recursion Jan 2013 #14
A Stinger launch tube? krispos42 Jan 2013 #11
Ahhh, the media and police again. SayWut Jan 2013 #13
And again I refer you to Post #3 KamaAina Jan 2013 #15
Universal background checks will pass in due time. SayWut Jan 2013 #17
DEAR GOD!! raidert05 Jan 2013 #16
Reno 911 called. They want their bit back! Initech Jan 2013 #18
 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
1. Fortunately It Was An Empty LAW Missile Tube Which Is A One Use Weapon.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:31 PM
Jan 2013

You wonder what happened to the missile.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
2. Well, at least it was not the full unit.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:33 PM
Jan 2013

They are out there, thanks the first afghani war when the CIA gave them to the Taliban like candy.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
3. That fourth paragraph you quoted is just as big a deal, imho
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:34 PM
Jan 2013
Officers saw guns changing private hands without knowing whether the person buying the gun had the legal right to buy it, and those transactions are occurring all the time, McGinn said.
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
8. That's why I picked it
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jan 2013

Picking which four paragraphs to quote is crucial to the art of posting on DU.

madville

(7,412 posts)
4. You can buy them on the internet
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:36 PM
Jan 2013

Used launchers/tubes are all over the place, there are probably a few on gunbroker.com right now.

davepc

(3,936 posts)
7. Oh no, an empty plastic tube!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 07:42 PM
Jan 2013

Somebody might swing it like a club and hit somebody over the head with it!

davepc

(3,936 posts)
10. Yes, can't have private party sales of empty plastic tubes.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:11 PM
Jan 2013

Won't some one think of the children?

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
14. Yup. Senator Manchin is onboard with requiring background checks for private sales
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:55 PM
Jan 2013

If a conservative pro-gun Democrat like him is behind that, I think there's a good chance we can get that done.

 

SayWut

(153 posts)
13. Ahhh, the media and police again.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:54 PM
Jan 2013

For starters, that's a not a "Stinger" missile (empty launch tube or otherwise), it's a Redeye launch tube.

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/B1HWN7hVzUWuL5_rP4RKgA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0xMDI0O3E9Nzk7dz0xNDIy/



http://www.wammt.org/collections/weapons/fim92.htm

http://www.wammt.org/collections/weapons/M41A3.htm



Secondly, it's an inert, harmless piece of military surplus, yet, there's cause for panic, worry and concern.

Thirdly, it was most likely stolen (ages ago), from a secured military facility. What, if anything, this has to do with "lax" gun control laws, background checks and/or getting guns off the street, I have no idea (other than to elicit more hand wringing that 'something must be done').



 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
15. And again I refer you to Post #3
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 10:56 PM
Jan 2013

Honest-to-goodness guns were being bought and sold instead of bought back, as intended.

 

SayWut

(153 posts)
17. Universal background checks will pass in due time.
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:20 PM
Jan 2013

Of that, I'm confident.
But, stirring up sentiment and outrage (as demonstrated by the article and OP), over a non issue (a nonthreatening chunk of olive drab PVC pipe with a pistol grip and a trigger), only serves to make the gun control crowd appear foolish, embarrassing and uneducated.

If the gun control segment of our society wants to gain any credibility or progress, they need to tone things down a bit and touch base with reality.

 

raidert05

(185 posts)
16. DEAR GOD!!
Mon Jan 28, 2013, 11:16 PM
Jan 2013
Officers saw guns changing private hands without knowing whether the person buying the gun had the legal right to buy it, and those transactions are occurring all the time, McGinn said.


It was a buy back alright and it will keep on happening over and over again till universal background checks are initiated and access to the NCIS System is loosened for it.
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