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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"I Just F*cking Shot Myself"
I could watch this over and over. Am I a bad, bad girl?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)progressoid
(49,945 posts)in Darwin's day, yes.
But today, modern medical help saved him.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Not the position of the muzzle flash, then look at where the holes are on his leg. It does not add up.
I might be new to the world of physics, but .....
TroglodyteScholar
(5,477 posts)He's got it pointed down, and his weight is shifted onto his left leg so his right leg is at a bit of an angle. I would expect a shot like that to do pretty much what's in that last picture. What specifically do you see that doesn't add up?
Tagish_Charlie
(85 posts)for 28 years Ido know that the paths bullets take through the body are unpredictable and counterintuitive. This injury appears to follow the femur which is not unexpected. My guess is it was a .22 . A .38 or .357 would in all likelihood have shattered the femur leaving this knucklehead in a world of hurt since there is a good chance there could be damage to the femoral artery, which allows for rapid exanguination. I have managed a few gunshot patients with femoral artery Involvement and they were messy and lethal
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)He talks about the gun and bullet in detail in his video. The OP is a take from his longer video.
marble falls
(57,010 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)And therefore, the bullet should tear the skin as it enters the leg at a very acute angle over by the hip bone. Instead, we have a neat, round hole in the middle-front of the leg instead of over where the gun was. Feel your own body over where the pistol is holstered and the muzzle flash is seen, almost all bone and skin.
What was he doing on the cell phone, taking acting/position cues from the producer behind the camera?
Why draw down in front of the target when you don't shoot from there? Why is the camera on?
greiner3
(5,214 posts)Uhhhh, I'll leave that to you, dude.
Do you remember that old song by Blondie;
'I love myself; I want you to love me
When I feel down; I want you above me
I search myself; I want you to find me
I forget myself; I want you to remind me
I don't want anybody else
When I think about you I touch myself
Ooh I don't want anybody else Oh no, oh no, oh no
You're the one who makes me come runnin'
You're the sun who makes me shine
When you're around I'm always laughin'
I want to make you mine
I close my eyes and see you before me
Think I would die if you were to ignore me
A fool could see just how much I adore you
I'd get down on my knees; I'd do anything for you
I don't want anybody else
When I think about you I touch myself
ahh ohh i don't want anybody else
oh no oh on oh no yeah
I love myself; I want you to love me
When I feel down; I want you above me
I search myself; I want you to find me
I forget myself; I want you to remind me
I don't want anybody else
When I think about you I touch myself
ahh ohh i don't want anybody else
oh no oh no oh no
I want you
I don't want anybody else
and when i think about you; i touch myself
ooh ooOoh ooOoh aaaaahhhh
I don't want anybody else
When I think about you I touch myself
Ooh I don't want anybody else
When I think about you I touch myself
I touch myself
I touch myself
I touch myself
I touch myself
I touch myself
I touch myself
I honestly do
I touch myself
I touch myself
blahblah98
(8 posts)... an Australian group, in 1991. That's not Debbie Harry's voice.
I sentence you to...
marble falls
(57,010 posts)and bullets do not all go so straight, hitting a leaf can put a bullet out of trajectory. Having been shot in the face by a guy firing a Derringer while standing almost beside him and 10ft away I know slugs can go severely squirrelly. It was a plastic practice round fired with only a .38 primer, but still.
What I see is a guy pull his pistol and try to rack a round into the chamber that apparently had a round and the slide slipped out of his hand before full extension, it slid back and the hammer which had not locked back hit the round and he "fucking shot" himself.
I bet he racked the first round in a practice or failed first take. He didn't clear it and he went to the take we get to enjoy.
You think that twit is anti-gun? I'm pro-gun and I see asses like that all the time. That's why I've changed my mind on gun control, all the guys that are screaming against it are guys I don't want armed without some mandated safety classes and I want to know they aren't nuts and they actually have more qualifications than the money it takes to buy something they can't handle, that may kill me or you, intentionally or not.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)But must also be a really bad shot. Looks like he could reach out and touch is target.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Yards. Mayby a couple of hundred rounds at a time. Its all anout being able to draw and put rounds on target at close range using muscle memory. I currently can draw at five yards and put four rounds on a two second showing q target pretty consistently and sometimes five rounds. It takes a lot of practice to get the draw smooth and second nature.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)The draw is the hardest part. But let's put them guns in them thar schools! Shitfire, that's fucked up.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)So when i get a new holster its a pain as i have to work the mechanics a bit differently but the basic technique of disengaging the holster and punching the weapon out remain the same. Though when i shoot at twenty five yards im pretty crap with my grouping as i tend to fire double taps and i shoot with both eyes open.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)It isn't the license that makes one safe, it's the practice. I'm not very pro gun but I've been to an indoor range a number of times with friends. I am awesome at braining paper zombies at distance. That said, I would never put one of those things anywhere near my privates. I'm pretty solid on that.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)People think they can take one range class and they are as good as a cop. I tend to see them as less safe than before they took that one single range class.
SheilaT
(23,156 posts)is required to be a good shot, and you underscore the idiocy of the idea that just arming everyone out there will somehow make us all safer from some deranged person with a gun.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Fighting chance it gives you when your ass is on the line. Not always but id rather have that chance than not.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)or another loved one, or someone completely unrelated, you turn every situation into a potential situation for the one possible time that it gives you a 1% chance to use it.
On math alone, an gun is far more of a danger than something that will save your life. (and this video proves it)
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)There is a risk but if you draw it then you should be in a life or death situation and prepared to use it.
Lordquinton
(7,886 posts)no children ever reach for it? you describe a perfect situation, and don't take into account that the world isn't perfect. Kinda like Libertarians.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)I draw my gun quite a lot both jn practice and reality and its just a piece of metal and polymers unless i decide to fire it and take up pressue on my trigger.
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Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)In the guy's original video I posted down thread, He claims to have practiced that move thousands of times. The gun safety instructor posted in another video below, fired off a live round in the gun safety class. No one can be perfect with a gun because they're human.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)What the hell kind of things are you into that "sex toy" is included with guns and chainsaws?
bl968
(360 posts)I am sure this guy spent years of training and practice too...
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Separation
(1,975 posts)Lets just say the video is just a tiny sliver of this guys personality. I met him several years ago, he was still with the DEA. I don't want to get into how he kept his job.
SecularMotion
(7,981 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Lionessa
(3,894 posts)I had to practice pulling, chambering, then shooting because I never left a round in the chamber in a Glock as I had children around and children cannot chamber a round in a Glock.
On the other hand, not having a round chambered assured that I couldn't accidentally fire upon drawing my weapon, and it meant I couldn't have responded in five rounds in under five yards, no possible way, I was pretty good.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Lionessa
(3,894 posts)I wouldn't end up with less than 5 yards to respond. Though I no longer carry, I do still have the Glock within a few feet of me as I'm typing, and it's not got a round chambered. Glock's have no other real safety feature to assure children don't fire it, so I trained from beginning to end knowing I'd NEVER have a round pre-chambered.
My daughter is getting her CCW so soon I'll be handing my Glock over to her as I have no children to protect anymore. and I've never much cared for my own protection, but I was gonna be damned if anyone was going to hurt my children. That's done, I'm ready to be gun-free.
Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Plus it takes to much time to draw and then rack a round in a hurry.
jerseyjack
(1,361 posts)you don't fuckin' shoot yourself.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)MrModerate
(9,753 posts)What training regimen do you put yourself through to optimize the decision-making process that occurs (hopefully) prior to shooting someone -- with great accuracy -- at five yards?
I'm hoping that "muscle memory" is significantly less important to that part.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Simply put you go into every situation knowing you may have to shoot everyone you come into contact with and hoping you dont have to. The minute you get complacent is the one time when you get hurt.
MrModerate
(9,753 posts)where you know "you may have to shoot everyone you come into contact with"?
Somalia? Afghanistan? North Korea (presuming you have an American flag sewn on the back of your jacket)?
My point being, that you're honing a skill for which there doesn't seem to be any realistic application, and the mastery of which could get someone else seriously dead if your "muscle memory" outpaces your ability to correctly evaluate risk.
Warpy
(111,141 posts)The guy who shot himself is the guy who put this video up and has left it up for years as a warning for other people who play with their guns. He says it's a great gun safety video and I have to agree with him.
That makes him a decent guy who used to be a dumbass with guns.
He's probably still got the guns. He just now knows not to play around with them and he wants other gun owners to know that, too.
(An interview with him has been posted here over the years)
hogwyld
(3,436 posts)future Darwin award winner in training??
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Another spoof of the original release.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)and so am I. I know I shouldn't laugh, I know, I know, I know, but man, that's hilarious. He doesn't get a Darwin award for that, but he should get an honorable mention, I think.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I slapped myself for laughing so hard, to the point of tears. LOL What's scary is, this guy could be sitting next to me in a restaurant with a concealed weapon.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I want to know who his recording "friend" is. I guess he's a better friend than I, for I would be pointing and laughing, not holding a fucking camera!
TrogL
(32,818 posts)You've got to be able to record anything up to and including the Trump of Doom without flinching.
I hate watching videos where the cameraman reacts to what's going on either by talking or moving the camera by falling down laughing.
This is internet gold. The "friend" will make the guy in hat famous forever. You can't get better friends.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I've seen video of the wounds, and they look fake to me. Is this just a fame seeker? Was that a blank?
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I posted below (#66) the original video and the guy slo-mo'ed it. The gun flashed as well, which would be hard to add if it were fake.
But you are correct to assume he's a fame seeker.
https://www.youtube.com/user/derekgrebner87
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I also noted how little the gun kicked back. Watch how little his elbow moves up from the discharge. A full-jacket 45 slug should have some kick, not??
Also, he makes his way to the camera, playing to the recording. I think if I shot myself by accident, I would not play to the camera. I'd forget about the camera.
Also:
Why was the camera running if he wasn't going to fake shooting himself?
Why was he unholstering the gun if he wasn't going to fake shooting himself?
I think it is a con, slick, but a con for video fame.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)Remember the actor who was killed during a movie by a close range blank. I can't remember the person or the movie but it happened.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)A blank won't put a hole through you!
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)1957-1984.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon-Erik_Hexum
Also Brandon Lee, Bruce Lee's son. 1965-1993.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Lee
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monmouth3
(3,871 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)tavalon
(27,985 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)And for some reason left one in it blocking it and then proceeded to fire it with it blowing up on his shoulder. It was like a memorial video that i would be pissed if it was me leaving this world looking like an idiot.
amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)I specifically said American, because that is what I live among every day.
And this fool isn't even as dumb and dangerous, as the buffoons I see on the highway, going 70mph and texting....dude
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Even had a guy on his cell with the laptop on his knees using the same knees to steer doing eighty.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I've finally learned how to text but I do with my butt firmly ensconced on a couch doing zero. And the occasional time I put makeup on, I do it at a stationary mirror in my stationary bathroom. And my laptop stays in the backpack until my buttocks are doing zero. It's just the way I roll and I think I generally roll smart. Obviously smarter than the people you've described. Sheesh.
George II
(67,782 posts)amuse bouche
(3,657 posts)the actual meaning of the 2nd A. Just ask any of them what 'well regulated militia' means and they will go all Ted Nugent on you ..blathering gibberish
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)dairydog91
(951 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Lesmoderesstupides
(156 posts)Nothing like seeing Responsible Gun Owners in Action.
Thanks for the laughs!
rurallib
(62,379 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)Almost every one of those "accidents" was rather close to being fatal. That dick at the end was hilarious, though.
tavalon
(27,985 posts)I laughed myself into an asthma attack. Fuck, that was just too funny. I feel genuinely bad for the guy but I feel worse for my busted gut.
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)(I'm just teasing, asthma is not funny.)
hockeynut57
(230 posts)no wonder the war on drugs is a losing
oneshooter
(8,614 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)Seems rather low-tech to me.
(Serious question - I'm not being snarky)
SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)obamanut2012
(26,046 posts)as an example of bad gun safety, and that every gun is loaded.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)KarenS
(4,062 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Home video at it's finest.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)JoeBlowToo
(253 posts)I recommend an ankle holster. Of course, there is shooting yourself in the foot as a distinct danger.
grahamhgreen
(15,741 posts)KansDem
(28,498 posts)You could just "goose step" your shots, firing each time your leg was raised!
JoeBlowToo
(253 posts)ROFLMAO, wet my pants and ruined my keyboard! Thanks!
City Lights
(25,171 posts)I cannot stop laughing at your post and picture!
calimary
(81,110 posts)Glad you're here! This is hilarious! I don't care if it was staged. It's still a gun buffoon demonstrating how he gets his!
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)I'm sure you wouldn't be in a hurry if that were a REAL "bad guy" standing there. Keep practicing!
Laughter is the best medicine, after all...
"I have two regrets. One of them is not burning the entire magazine into the target after the shot."
No shit? You mean it's not like in the movies where even where you're shot you can be a badass and take care of business?
"...and the other is that I didn't grab the camera and document my own self-rescue."
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)"I put the video on YouTube to save lives."
I think I'll take my lessons elsewhere.
jpak
(41,756 posts)yup
crim son
(27,464 posts)Choking with laughter over here.
Chorophyll
(5,179 posts)SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)You can't make this shit up.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Son of Gob
(1,502 posts)Slicky Beanz, James Yeager, and Zombie Tactics.
That's the James Yeager who said he would "start killing people" if Obama tried to implement stricter gun control measures.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)VWolf
(3,944 posts)liberal N proud
(60,332 posts):rolf:
Shadowflash
(1,536 posts)And these are the morons who say they need their precious to fight off the American military or UN troops.
I feel so safe.
'Merica.
bullwinkle428
(20,628 posts)K&R.
sarisataka
(18,483 posts)LMFAO
I will have to add this to my "Don't end up on youtube" collection.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Nolimit
(142 posts)I believe the guy had a retention holster that prevents the gun from simply being yanked out. They require you to first put your index finger on a little release tab and then pull the gun from holster. This guy did the opposite of that and pulled up first and probably curled his finger to reach the tab. Doing that puts the finger in a position where it will slip into the trigger guard as he finally pulls the gun out (where you don't want it to be) . To his credit, he's owned up to his mistake and even went on to Tosh.0 to poke fun at himself.
George II
(67,782 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)402 comments
Shelby, a hunter and gun owner who has received an A-plus rating from the National Rifle Association for his support of the 2nd Amendment, ...
SunSeeker
(51,512 posts)UTUSN
(70,645 posts)Smilo
(1,944 posts)thanks for the laugh Oilwellian.
Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)That was hilarious!
sir pball
(4,737 posts)That particular handgun has a thumb safety; it MUST ALWAYS BE ON. The safety lever is located so that when you draw it, your thumb will rest on the catch; AFTER you've cleared the holster, while the gun is coming up, you sweep your thumb down across the catch to arm the pistol. It's an extremely smooth, natural motion - in fact, disengaging it before the gun has cleared the holster and is not pointed at your knee is awkward and counter-intuitive. My guess is this moran figured not switching it on, and going finger-on-trigger before the draw was done, would somehow make his shooting faster.
It won't. I've carried a 1911 and with the appropriate practice, drawing the pistol WITH YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER, sweeping the safety, and only THEN putting your finger on the trigger is very easy and natural to do while the pistol is coming up into firing position, well clear of your body parts. John Browning knew what the hell he was doing and trying to second-guess him is only gonna hurt.
And yes, this is endlessly amusing
Ian Iam
(386 posts)It's hilarious, either way: DURec!
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Here's the original YouTube post:
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)The wound looks like a straight in shot, not aligned with the exit hole, which looks straight out.
Replay the video of the gun discharge, and note the angle of the shot and position of the gun, at the top of the holster and not on the front of his leg, on the side instead. However, the entry bullet hole is more on the front of the leg and the exit is to the side of the knee. The muzzle flash frame has the gun beside his hip and maybe even behind the hip center line. So, are the holes in the leg in the correct positions? It seems like a fake to me from looking at the videos. Is there a 911 call and did the paramedics go to the gun range?
Also, was he taking a call on a cell phone? What was he raising to his ear when he drew the gun?
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Pretty good con job, but they overlooked the laws of physics.
These clowns are not MENSA and did NOT win at high school Science Fair!
KansDem
(28,498 posts)I could watch it over and over, too...
...and go "offenbach" for more!
life long demo
(1,113 posts)Sorry the man shot himself, but like Ralphy's mother said you can shoot your eye out, or maybe your leg if you're not careful.
ashling
(25,771 posts)kentauros
(29,414 posts)When I first saw the original video of his accident, I didn't laugh. My first thoughts were, "Damn! I hope it was just a graze." And I thought about blood loss and having to drive himself to an emergency room.
Unlike, it appears, everyone else here, I don't laugh at other people's pain, no matter how they got it. I guess I'm not normal
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)I know it's wrong, but do appreciate a good remix when I see one.
kentauros
(29,414 posts)and I'm not trying to judge anyone. We're all different
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)with the caption "If you think this is funny, you're perverted." That should guarantee he opens it.
spin
(17,493 posts)"wingnut" and I have no problem with your sending this video to anyone and think it is a damn good idea.
Wise, experienced shooters will tell you that there are two classes of shooters:
1) Those who have had an accidental discharge.
2) Those who will.
I have been very fortunate as while I have enjoyed shooting handguns for over 40 years on a regular basis, I have not yet had an AD. That doesn't mean that the next time I pick up a firearm I will not have one. It is always necessary to practice gun safety and to always keep the muzzle of the weapon pointed in a safe direction just in case you screw up.
Videos like this are excellent reminders of just how dangerous firearms are even in experienced hands.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)JaneFordA
(141 posts)And had to get the Windex for the monitor, too, because my blackberry iced tea is aaaallll over it!
LOVE it and have passed it on elsewhere!
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)loli phabay
(5,580 posts)kentuck
(111,052 posts)mikekohr
(2,312 posts)frogmarch
(12,153 posts)"I Just Fucking Shot Myself - The Musical" is hilarious. I don't know how many times I've watched it so far.
Boudica the Lyoness
(2,899 posts)allan01
(1,950 posts)one of those silly stupid films .
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)cuz then it wouldn't have been so funny.
alfredo
(60,071 posts)Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)heavily armed prepper, teaching his son's how to shoot / gun safety.
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)While teaching his kid gun safety, he shoots himself. You can't make this shit up. The kid seemed brighter than the dad so there's hope.
MindandSoul
(1,817 posts)gasser85
(40 posts)I think I wet myself
ManiacJoe
(10,136 posts)Response to Oilwellian (Original post)
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another_liberal
(8,821 posts)Those automatics are tricky devils. With most the safety can easily flip to "fire." He needs to try a revolver with the hammer on an empty chamber, like a real cowboy.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Thank You !!!
B Calm
(28,762 posts)who accidently shot theirselves. Both were co workers who worked with me at my last two jobs.
mettamega
(81 posts)dorksied
(348 posts)greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)That is hilarious.
greiner3
(5,214 posts)Is that a badge this guy's wearing????????????????????????????
:clap
On reflection, if he is one of America's finest;
Ya think he'll take this out on the next 'perp' he confronts????????????