I could be totally lying about this---
but I'm not.
Not only am I not lying, I am not alone.
I knew---who didn't---that W was a total idiot BEFORE 9-11 happened and he proved it to the world.
I knew, as soon as W swaggered up onto that pile of rubble at Ground Zero and started drawling into that bullhorn that we were going to war, come hell or high water and whatever the stated reason.
I knew that Bush, Unca Dick and Rummy were all lying through their teeth when they scared (almost) everyone with that Weapons of Mass Destruction crap.
I knew that war would last for many years because there were too many people making too much damn money off of it. "True patriotic Americans" helped "protect our freedoms" by going shopping.
I knew that the rise of the Tea Party was just a diversion to allow the REAL GOP BASE spew its hatred and racisom and intolerance without "technically" besmirching the Party of St. Ronnie.
I knew---and know---that "bipartisanship" is a bad joke trotted out by TPTB when they need to shield themselves from the outrage that would be aimed at them if they owned their self-serving anti-people agenda.
I suspect there are more than a few who, like me, often can't "prove" what we know to be true. Maybe we just have better than average bullshit sensors.
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"Prophetic" is the word I'd use! 
i knew before the 2000 election that gw would throw a war if he was president. absolutely knew it.
all the rest, too. in fact it was out there, you just had to look for the truth. i so clearly recall my daughter in law at the time, having watched colin powell at the UN, saying, "he was pretty convincing," and me saying, "he's LYING."
yeah. for all the good it does anybody, we knew. 
that the dumb shit was well on the way to a hopeless war. 
...and had the privilege and opportunity to hear him speak about casting that vote against the Iraq War.
He was in a neck & neck race for his Senate seat with Republican Norm Coleman,
and, as usual, Wellstone was fighting for his seat without much support from the Democratic Party establishment.
President Bush, Vice-President Cheney, and other Big Name Republicans were making weekly appearances in the Twin Cities, cutting TV commercials, fund raising, and stumping for Coleman. You couldn't turn on a TV without seeing their faces.
Not too many (none) Big Name Democratic Party celebrities were showing up in Minnesota to help Wellstone in his campaign.
He was doing his usual thing, barnstorming the state and relying on Grass Roots activists to help him keep his seat.
ALL the advisers and pundits had told him that he would surely lose his seat if he cast a NO vote. He told us that he had spent a sleepless night mulling that over before he cast his vote. When asked WHY he took that chance,
he said that sometimes you just have to do the right thing regardless of the consequences.
Wellstone was the only Democratic Senator involved in a re-election battle that voted NO on the IWR.
Against all the predictions of the pundits and advisers, he began to pull ahead of Coleman in the polls, and the gap was widening until he was killed.
I don't idolize Paul Wellstone.
He was a human just like the rest of us,
but I do remember Paul Wellstone, and use his courage and integrity as a model and a measure with which to evaluate other politicians.
He was one of the very best.
[font color=firebrick size=3][center]"If we don't fight hard enough for the things we stand for,
at some point we have to recognize that we don't really stand for them."
--- Paul Wellstone[/font][/center]
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[font size=5 color=firebrick]Solidarity![/font]
what the Bush* administration would do to kick-start their PNAC bullshit.
Several people here were concerned that a catastrophe would be in the making.
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Bush* and his neo-con gang had to coup the 2000 election. They just had to take control, and if it took cheating, well, then they and SCOTUS cheated.
You can't trust a continuously lying, cheating and thieving Republican. They'll smile to your face and stab you in the back.
there are none! DU says so.
I was pretty ignorant on many things back then, but quickly learned a lot here on DU. Found out that the PNAC'ers had written to President Clinton in 1998 about how they felt our foreign policy with Iran was on the wrong course. Of course after their coup in 2000 they found a way to implement their brand of foreign policy, and look how horrific that turned out to be.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Project_for_the_New_American_Century
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DU!
at the corporate headquarters of a major insurance company, surrounded by repugs, and every time bush & co changed the reason why we were in Iraq I would mutter "It's only about the oil" finally the light dawned in one persons eyes.
During this time period I was checking the news on CNN one day and a "helpful" fellow co-worked stopped by my desk to tell me that you had to watch what you read on "some" of the news reports, because they weren't fair and balanced!
... that as soon as GW got in office, he had Collin Powell running all over the world rattling the sabres. I knew, and my dearly departed Mother knew, that they would have us in a war so quick we wouldn't know what happened. The saber rattling got worse as the year went on, then came 9/11. Mother and I just looked at each other and said nothing else. We started praying for our soldiers, as we knew it would be no time until we were in another war. But we would never have guessed that the main thrust of the war would be toward Iraq, which had nothing to do with 9/11.
I knew that when Collin got up there in the UN and waved around that little vial on that fateful Monday, as if it was actually Anthrax, I knew it was a lie. I knew it. Collin was not a good liar. He was not convincing. I could see straight thru him. That was not the Collin Powell I knew.
I knew the spiel about WMDs and mushroom clouds was all a lie. GW and his cabal lead this country into two wars on a credit card, told everyone to go shopping, and spent up the surplus that Clinton left by giving the 1% a great big tax break to ice the cake. Yeah...told everyone they should buy a home. That a man's home was his castle. And so it was.
And by Sept 14, 2008, the housing bubble popped and Hank Paulson came to Congress begging on behalf of Wall Street. The rest is history....
I warned everyone I knew that he was vastly under-qualified during the campaign of selection 2000, working in a conservative office, I was outnumbered.
My ex-wife even told me if Bush wasn't smart enough to be President he could hire smarter people to work for him, 
how can you argue with that!?
My last words before going to sleep on election night when the corporate media called Florida for Bush was "God help us all!"
I knew we were in deep shit from the get go.
Thanks for the thread, Atticus.
