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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan I share my theory of Everything?
I'm sure that this theory is not unique, but I haven't read much philosophy. Here it is. The Universe did not have a start, or beginning. The Universe has always been. If the Universe had a start, who started it? Well I'm an Atheist so the who part makes no sense to me. But, to solve it for myself, it only makes perfect sense that the Universe has always been. No bearded dude. Big Bang theory is alright, there have been an infinite number of bangs.
I know, how could something not have a beginning. Well, I don't know. But, I don't think that the Universe strives to make sense to us. Without throwing around Gods to solve the dilemma of how did it all happen, the only other alternative can be that it's always existed.
This theory has caused the Jehovah's to stop coming by. Imagine, the Jehovah's have rejected me. Strange.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)But it doesn't have to mean a God or supreme being couldn't also have always been existing, eternally.
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)My brain hurts when I ponder these big questions. The older I get the more I find myself settled into this view, "I don't know and neither do you." I don't think we CAN possibly know, as of now anyway. We humans have only been on Earth a short while. We still have many discoveries and scientific breakthroughs to experience--before we can begin to answer these questions.
It's all so very interesting. I have great respect and I feel a sense of camaraderie with anyone who thinks about these things and attempts to figure it all out. We need thinkers, dreamers and people who ponder the deep stuff.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
kentuck
(115,400 posts)and the "Spirit" was a form of energy and that over many eons of evolution, the energy has been refined into thought processes, which in turn create words, which in turn create actions, which in turn create images of a universe, which in turn is only a figment of our imagination...
dixiegrrrrl
(60,157 posts)Tho I also believe in universal consciousness of everything.
The great hive mind, if you will.
gateley
(62,683 posts)kentuck
(115,400 posts)it is scattered, in almost a chaotic manner. However, somewhere in this world, at all times, is a center of this consciousness, that keeps the world glued together. It is the "God" that people worship and talk about but they do not know where it is. They do not know if it is in the form of a man or mammal. But it is probable that there are two of them since everything in our reality is of a dual existence. How could there be only one God? Just as there is a Moon and a Sun, Day and Night, Male and Female, Fire and Water, there surely must be a match to the God of which we speak?
randome
(34,845 posts)...same manner as before.
After all, everything will be the same once it collapses to whatever quantum non-existence it began as. So if conditions are the same at the moment of the Big Bang, it may follow that everything plays out exactly the same.
This could be the 'eternal life' the religionists want. Although it would suck if you have a bad life endlessly repeated.
longship
(40,416 posts)Just kidding, my friend.
A fun post.
Thanks.
Romulus Quirinus
(524 posts)The Cosmic Landscape: String Theory and the Illusion of Intelligent Design [Paperback]
reformist2
(9,841 posts)In the end, the answer is always, I don't know!
legaleagle_45
(43 posts)randome
(34,845 posts)legaleagle_45
(43 posts)mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)The only possibility is for something else to exist that is not the universe, and for that somehow to start the universe. It could be some dude with a huge bong who created the universe, or it could just to some effect of the non-universe popping itself into being the universe. Regardless, something other than the universe had to exist. Where did that come from? See, the problem just gets pushed back a level.
Unless, of course, we create God, God creates a universe, which then makes people eventually to make another God. Ad infinitum.
Or maybe it all has to do with butts: a universe eventually makes butts, those butts give birth to a God, that God creates a universe capable of producing butts. That's the theory of the buttiverse, and it has as much validity as any religion.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Or at least, exists within Schroedinger's "margin of error". So if it doesn't exist, there's no need to explain how it got here. Silly in some ways, but also elegant.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)Not saying it's impossible that we're being fooled somehow, or misinterpreting the data, but for know, the universe existing is the best explanation.
It might be a good computer simulation (I knew I shouldn't have given away that VIC20).
kentuck
(115,400 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)MissMarple
(9,656 posts)There has to be a set of morals in that somewhere.
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)One theory is that the vast majority if space - as in volume - is undergoing hyper-inflation and that universes are these little holes where there isn't hyper-inflation, so things can kind of settle down there. That means the universe is like Swiss Cheese.
Only a universe made of cheese can explain Disney.
Recursion
(56,582 posts)There are a priori arguments that the universe both must have a starting time and cannot have a starting time.
Many physicists today make an argument that time is a primarily thermodynamic phenomenon, so it could have a beginning in a scientific sense, even if not in the normal sense of what we would mean.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)it would still have been in a different form of energy and mass at some given point in time and space. The laws of conservation of energy and mass say that energy and mass can never be destroyed. They simply transfer from one form to another. What form of mass and energy was the universe in before the Big Bang and what triggered that transfer of energy? Scientists are still trying to figure that one out.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)kentuck
(115,400 posts)or questions.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)That black hole didn't always exist in that universe. Therefore, our universe did not always exist, but "started" according to an external timeline that is not applicable within this black hole universe.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Bandit
(21,475 posts)Bosonic
(3,746 posts)The only eternal entity is 'sea' of randomness, and 'occasionally' a very improbable event occurs and a universe 'pops' into existance for a 'while', or more probably a mini-universe, or even more probably one concious entity that experiences what it thinks is a fully-realized universe...
Cary
(11,746 posts)Get a good current book on cosmology. I believe there is a current theory involving dark matter and dark energy, which we don't currently understand. For some reason our universe has just the right amount of dark matter and dark energy to allow us to exist as we do. So are there other universes with too much or too little dark matter and dark energy?
Of course this goes beyond science at this point because we have absolutely no proof of any other universe.
dtotire
(1,889 posts)He mentioned this in the series he wrote: Cosmosi
kentuck
(115,400 posts)Have you noticed that the Big Dipper and the Little Dipper look exactly alike but one is smaller. And Orion's stars always point to the Little Dipper. Everything is larger or smaller compared to our own height and weight. Look how small that ant is or how large is that elephant.
And we find it amazing how computer chips are created in micro-millimeters to do tasks we never imagined. And when we see photos of the universe they uncannily resemble a strand of DNA. Everything seems to be a reflection of everything else and is only relative to the small space which we occupy on this small speck of sand called Earth.
randome
(34,845 posts)Warpy
(114,588 posts)It all had to have come from a single point in time and space many billions of years ago....
Except, they're thinking in terms of space rather than in terms of time. Remember, our perception is unidirectional as far as time goes. The three dimensional, accelerating universe is likely an optical illusion because of our three dimensional perceptual bias.
Personally, I find the concept of an oscillating universe, going between big bang and big crunch, to be most palatable.
Otherwise, it's turtles, all the way down.
kentuck
(115,400 posts)and not backward?
Warpy
(114,588 posts)that time has a one way bias except at the quantum level under extreme circumstances, similar circumstances that the Big Crunch would provide.
kentuck
(115,400 posts)I guess they knew what they were doing when they built the first clocks?
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It was between 13 and 14 billion years ago. I don't know about the other universes. I suspect some of those still exist to this day that are much older. There may also be some newer ones out there. And I am not sure that our universe is rushing apart so much as expanding towards other universes. I have no idea what happens when universes collide, but I think it is probably a beautiful but deadly thing for any life in those universes.
Neoma
(10,039 posts)Captain Picard wanted to explore California once and now we're just stuck in the computer playing ourselves out.
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)Which belongs to another Universe , which itself is just a molecule which belongs to an organ which belongs to an organism which belongs to another Universe..
You know the rest.
Cheers!
kentuck
(115,400 posts)...how are we able to envision such huge ideas or theories??
darkangel218
(13,985 posts)kentuck
(115,400 posts)Do ants see us coming and shout to the other ants, "Look out! The giants are coming!"