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ANUARY 31--The St. Louis pastor responsible for the credit card receipt heard round the Internet termed her snide scribblings a lapse in my character and judgment, adding that the Applebees employee who posted the receipt online was fired yesterday after she lodged a complaint with restaurant managers.
In a TSG interview, Alois Bell said that the online firestorm created by the receipt has left her stunned. My heart is really broken, said the 37-year-old Bell. Ive brought embarrassment to my church and ministry.
The Applebees receipt, which was posted earlier this week to Reddit, includes Bells handwritten notations referring to an 18 percent tip added to the bill (for groups larger than six). I give God 10% why do you get 18, wrote Bell, who scratched out the tip and added a zero in its place. She also wrote the word Pastor above her signature.
The January 25 meal came after an evening service at the Truth in the World Deliverance Ministries church, said Bell, who added that five adults and five children were in the group that dined at Applebees (a traditional post-service destination for church members). The subsequent bill was divided up amongst the parties.
More: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-687234
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Her first reaction was to lash out at the waitress, not apologize to her for stiffing her in a smug way. Somehow that makes this apology ring hollow to my ears.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)And this awful woman claims to have turned to Christ when she was pregnant and homeless. Then she turns around and fucks over the poor and seems to show glee for it. Fuck Applebees and fuck that pathetic excuse for a Christian.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)Then she became outraged for her "lapse in judgment" being exposed.
Notice how in the article above she has zero remorse for having a waitress fired. Zero! She's only sorry people are judging her note harshly.
All I have to say is now that it's known who she is she's taking her chances going out to eat. You don't act the ass to people who serve you your food.
RKP5637
(67,103 posts)scorned the employee, and smug in her church and "her" god beliefs. Another reason I never trust or like to be around religious people.
LostinRed
(840 posts)Hope she's proud of her stingy self. Hope that server gets her job back.
lsewpershad
(2,620 posts)Apologizing doesn't cut it. Ask and insist Applee rehire and apologize to the employee.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)came down hard on the Pastor and showed support for the waitress.
Jeff In Milwaukee
(13,992 posts)It's not a church.
My guess is that she's using her tax exempt status as a tax dodge.
Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)at the link is now removed.
I saw it and thought of snakes on a plane with preachers.
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)Is her heart broken about that, too?
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)Prayze Jayzuz and Holy Gawd AWLMIGHTIE!!!
dsc
(52,155 posts)Google can be your bestest friend, sometimes.
EDIT! Sorry, snark overload. I humbly apologize, dsc! Hugs.
http://consumerist.com/2013/01/31/waitress-who-posted-no-tip-receipt-from-pastor-customer-fired-from-job/
msongs
(67,394 posts)they are all that way, they mean what they say until there is a backlash then they are sorry....they got caught
MNBrewer
(8,462 posts)$he's got a good $cam going and doe$n't want the gravy train to $top. Preacher$/prie$t$/prelate$ are $uch good con arti$t$.
EOTE
(13,409 posts)Have that POS pastor start tithing to the poor woman who lost her job and maybe she can start to atone for her sins. Dear god the fundy nuts in this country disgust me. She probably still thinks she's a good christian, too.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Kolesar
(31,182 posts)I didn't even get an allowance and I was supposed to find a dime to give to the church at age ten.
Robb
(39,665 posts)"Sorry I got called out" isn't an apology.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)of what Christ taught. I'm sure she is very sorry, for being exposed and caught in the act of what she did.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)about how Jesus got the waitress at the last supper fired because took too long getting Paul's curly fries?
HubertHeaver
(2,522 posts)First: Writing the comment in the first place.
Second: Lodging a complaint with restaurant managers.
riqster
(13,986 posts)Making a non-apology.
Natemoney2
(2 posts)The fact that she crossed it (the gratuity amount) out and wrote a 0 (zero) but didn't bother to check that her total still had the 18% gratuity in it tells me she is just another stupid self righteous hypocrite who thinks everyone else owes her something in life.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)and I sure hope that people all over the internet heap much scorn upon Alois Bell of St. Louis. A miserable wretch if ever there was one.
Julie
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)....to meet even the minimum standards of what they preach.
Sickening.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)to a co-worker, who took a picture of it and posted it on Reddit.
The "Christian" woman's unchristian actions were just par for the course.
Taverner
(55,476 posts)God chose THEM so they must be better than everyone else!
LiberalFighter
(50,871 posts)She didn't have concern about the staff that serve her at less than minimum wage and rely on tips for a living.
She had no sympathy to the woman that was fired because of her behavior and attitude. She should be worried that she will be treated in the future like Sheldon is sometimes when he eats at a restaurant.
She may (I doubt it) give 10% to her god but she does it at tax exempt status. Waitresses don't have that option.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)Who knew?
dballance
(5,756 posts)whether they got those tips or not. So not only is Alois Bell screwing the server over at the time of service but again at tax time.
She's not the least bit sorry about what she did. As most other posters have pointed out she's just sorry she got caught. Then called out on her less than Christian actions.
TlalocW
(15,380 posts)Is that the waitress is making less than minimum wage, might have to pool tips, might have to report tips to management and get less, etc.
Your 10% tithe is a scam where you're giving 10% of your income to yourself (as a "church" and writing it off on taxes.
TlalocW
pauldemmd195j
(36 posts)You're still a greedy selfish jerk. Your "apology" won't change a thing.
Myrina
(12,296 posts)She should be embarassed. And give that waitress the rest of the tip due her, in cash so she doesn't have to declare it.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)librabear
(85 posts)Go look at the reciept again!
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)librabear
(85 posts)I just figured that is what she was commenting on.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)and wrote in "0".
Her card was still charged the 18%, because that was the company's policy.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)"Tip - 18% and then a line "adtl tip" (which obviously means "additional" , and that's where the zero is. She was charged 18% because it was included in the bill as presented. If she'd had the option of removing the charge and then gotten charged anyway then they'd be committing fraud.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)She crossed out the $6.29 that represented the 18% amount. Then wrote "0" on the additional tip line.
Above the crossed out $6.29, she wrote her snide question.
Spider Jerusalem
(21,786 posts)and I REALLY can't quite wrap my head around this, honestly...is that NO-ONE seems to be questioning the practice of tipping; this entire situation and the media attention it's drawn for this one person's "cheapness"? It's because restaurants don't pay servers a living wage. If you're expected to tip, no matter what? Restaurants could raise their prices 20% across the board, since that'd reflect what most people are already paying including tipping the server (and servers wouldn't be at the mercy of the inconstant gratitude of strangers). Personally I see this one person's NOT tipping as less of an issue than the entire system that premises tipping in the first place.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)other discussion.
Arguably, tips shouldn't be about income, they should be about gratitude for service "above and beyond".
Unfortunately, our corporate masters and the IRS saw tipping as an excuse to cut wages and increase taxes on the poor, respectively.
In this instance, we have a person who "tithes" to her god, but since she runs the church she is tithing to, she really isn't giving the money to anyone but herself. Somehow, she views this tax avoidance shell game as somehow moral, and the expectation by a member of the working poor that they actually get paid for the money that the IRS is taxing them for (whether they get it or not) is somehow immoral and "unholy".
Cal Carpenter
(4,959 posts)She crossed the gratuity out and didn't tip at all. She wrote in the bill amount at the bottom and signed it.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-687234
(click on "view the document" on left column to see entire receipt)
yardwork
(61,588 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)the 18%- check the source article.
yardwork
(61,588 posts)progree
(10,901 posts)The Most Reverend Bell claimed she discovered later that her card was charged the 18% tip, but she strikes me as a chronic liar.
Anyway, she meant not to pay any tip. I'm surprised they went ahead and charged her, when she crossed out the tip and signed the receipt -- isn't it a signed document? What other point is there for the signature on the thing? She deserves no slack. She is a POS.
Oops - on edit I see that she left the "Total: $34.93" (which includes the 18% tip) unaltered, so that's what they go by legally I presume, and charged her card the $34.93. Had she crossed out the $34.93 and/or wrote a different figure, then I don't know how they could charge her card the $34.93 -- they would have to bring out the manager with a couple of unhappy-looking enforcer types in toll and have a little tête-à-tête to resolve the problem.
Edit #2 - all that said, I think she intended *not* to pay the 18% tip.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)18% of 34.93 = 6.29
It reads like this:
Amount: 34.93
Tip: 6.29
Adt l tip: (blank)
Total 34.93.
If she had added the tip it would read:
Amount: 34.93
Tip: 6.29
Adt l tip: (blank)
Total: 41.22
progree
(10,901 posts)You are right.
I got my idea that the $34.93 included the 18% tip from here: http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/pastor-tip-receipt-155914258.html
(yes, on a 2nd reading, of the above, it doesn't say the $34.93 includes the 18% tip, but rather says the BILL (the piece of paper) "included an automatic 18 percent gratuity ($6.29) above a blank space for an additional tip". )
and this from http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-687234
I should have looked more carefully (well I looked carefully and studied it and all that, but woe is me, I did not see). Apparently she lied on saying the 18 percent gratuity had been charged to her credit card (I don't know how they could have legally charged her the $41.22) ... or maybe she thought the $34.93 included the 18% gratuity. Being a Christian, she would of course not lie.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)If she had paid the tip, the total would have been $41.22.
librabear
(85 posts)I just saw the zero where it said "addl tip" and thought she didn't tip above the 18%. NVM.
Marr
(20,317 posts)She gives 10% of the money given to her by her flock of sheep, back to herself.
LOL, religion is a hell of a racket. It's no wonder it attracts the con-artists.
quinnox
(20,600 posts)in her job as a preacher. No wonder why the nasty note!
JEB
(4,748 posts)not likely, probably just another scam to get money from the ignorant and avoid taxes. Deadbeats, scoundrels and guilty consciences flock to church.
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)Oops, they were already there.
LibertyLover
(4,788 posts)which as far as I'm concerned puts her one step above mold. And her actions in this instance are completely reprehensible. Wonder what her Christ thinks of her?
thucythucy
(8,045 posts)who said if someone asks for your coat, give him also the shirt off your back.
He also made some comment about how, if you truly want to follow God, you should sell everything you own and give the money to the poor.
And then there was this little aside about, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you."
Who said all that, I wonder?
Obviously not anybody this "pastor" has ever read or taken seriously.
progree
(10,901 posts)If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. [Matthew 19:21]
But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]
Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions. [Luke 12.15.]
Truly, I say unto you, it will be hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. [Matthew 19:23]
You cannot serve both God and Money. [Matthew 6:24.]
Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. [Matthew 22:21]
http://www.jesusisaliberal.org/
thucythucy
(8,045 posts)Thanks!
CreekDog
(46,192 posts)Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)TeamPooka
(24,220 posts)please fire her for violating your posted corporate code of conduct.
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)Her apology means nothing.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)Get that waitress a better job or you're going to hell lady!
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Ichingcarpenter
(36,988 posts)of her preaching was more of a holly roller, snake charming(no snakes) but you get the idea .
The photo that I printed makes her look very thin as compared to the video. I would guess around 260 or more.
Applebee and organized religion..... yikes.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)She only seems to regret having been identified.
Was she at the restaurant for a meeting of the
local Young Republicans Club?
City Lights
(25,171 posts)Jesus wept.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)When I dine out, I am happy to pay the working class wait staff.
This phony needs to work on the kindness and charity thing.
reverend_tim
(105 posts)Hekate
(90,641 posts)Pastor Bell's photo upends a lot of immediate assumptions made here at DU, doesn't it? I'm willing to bet everyone's immediate thought was "white male" -- and here we have a black female.
An unfortunately very judgmental and clueless woman. Perhaps she can learn from this experience. However I think having the entire world of the internet jumping on her at once will probably do more to crush her than it will to help her learn.
The whole thing is a shame.
In the meantime, I hope the waitress finds another job very soon -- one with a better clientele.
Freddie
(9,259 posts)Real Fundie/Evangelical churches don't allow women pastors.
Bake
(21,977 posts)I soooooooooooo believe that. Uh huh. Right.
And she CLAIMS her card was charged 18%. But I didn't see a receipt showing that.
Sounds like the same kind of BS she lays down every Sunday morning.
Bake
sarisataka
(18,595 posts)and it got out- fire the person who didn't let me keep being an ass
Apology? not so much
MrSlayer
(22,143 posts)Idiot.
jsr
(7,712 posts)I believe her.
Natemoney2
(2 posts)It only states she had a lapse in judgement that made her look bad to her peers. Nowhere does it state she apologized for her rude and inappropriate behaviour.