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malaise

(296,085 posts)
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 07:33 PM Jan 2013

Oops!!! Israel must withdraw all settlers or face ICC, says UN report

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UN Human Rights Council says Israel is in violation of Geneva convention and should face international criminal court
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Israel must withdraw all settlers from the West Bank or potentially face a case at the international criminal court (ICC) for serious violations of international law, says a report by a United Nations agency that was immediately dismissed in Jerusalem as "counterproductive and unfortunate".

All settlement activity in occupied territory must cease "without preconditions" and Israel "must immediately initiate a process of withdrawal of all settlers", said the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC). Israel, it said, was in violation of article 49 of the fourth Geneva convention, which forbids the transfer of civilian populations to occupied territory.

The settlements were "leading to a creeping annexation that prevents the establishment of a contiguous and viable Palestinian state and undermines the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination," it said.

"The Rome statute establishes the international criminal court's jurisdiction over the deportation or transfer, directly or indirectly, by the occupying power of parts of its own population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory," said the UNHRC report .

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Maybe the planet is about to heal itself. Bush and Cheney look out!!!

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Oops!!! Israel must withdraw all settlers or face ICC, says UN report (Original Post) malaise Jan 2013 OP
Who can possibly argue against this? bvar22 Jan 2013 #1
Just wait a sec... n/t Egalitarian Thug Jan 2013 #2
I hear the chairs rolling up to the keyboard right now. n/t Whisp Jan 2013 #4
3...2...1 malaise Jan 2013 #6
rollin' rollin' rollin' Whisp Jan 2013 #11
where is the border? Mosby Jan 2013 #13
The United Nations . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #23
Wait about 5 minutes Recursion Jan 2013 #5
it's about time they stop ignoring the illegal settlements liberal_at_heart Jan 2013 #3
ICC does not have jurisdiction if Israel declines to give it to them ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #7
Israel is not a party to the Rome Statute. tritsofme Jan 2013 #8
Here's the link you forgot Electric Monk Jan 2013 #9
Thanks malaise Jan 2013 #12
Several busloads of Israel's chickens . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #10
Israel will ignore it and nothing will happen. GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #14
the sterilization was the final straw for me. madrchsod Jan 2013 #15
sterilization? Mosby Jan 2013 #16
Temporary sterilization . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Jan 2013 #19
It's birth control Mosby Jan 2013 #20
That many are claiming it . . . another_liberal Jan 2013 #21
I wonder what would be the result if 30 Israeli women were temporarily sterilized Orrex Jan 2013 #22
I'll believe it when I see it. AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #17
Locking Grateful for Hope Jan 2013 #24

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
1. Who can possibly argue against this?
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:37 PM
Jan 2013

I fully support the UN Human Rights Council on this issue.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
2. Just wait a sec... n/t
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013
 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
4. I hear the chairs rolling up to the keyboard right now. n/t
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jan 2013

malaise

(296,085 posts)
6. 3...2...1
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:43 PM
Jan 2013

Won't be long

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
11. rollin' rollin' rollin'
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jan 2013

...
rawwwwwhide!!

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
13. where is the border?
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:11 PM
Jan 2013

Who gets to decide where the western border is? The UNHRC, the ICC?

Where is it?

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
23. The United Nations . . .
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:18 PM
Jan 2013

The United Nations recognizes Israel's 1967 borders, nothing more. All of the West Bank settlements are seen as illegal under international law. Israel flatly rejects those opinions, and there the matter stands.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
5. Wait about 5 minutes
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:40 PM
Jan 2013

and you'll see

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
3. it's about time they stop ignoring the illegal settlements
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:39 PM
Jan 2013

They have been getting away with it for too long.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
7. ICC does not have jurisdiction if Israel declines to give it to them
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:50 PM
Jan 2013

tritsofme

(19,900 posts)
8. Israel is not a party to the Rome Statute.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jan 2013

And has no obligation to the ICC. Final settlement issues will be determined through negotiations, Israel will certainly not be dictated to by a body it does not recognize. Says nothing of the absolute joke this "Human Rights" Council has become.

 

Electric Monk

(13,869 posts)
9. Here's the link you forgot
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:55 PM
Jan 2013

malaise

(296,085 posts)
12. Thanks
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:58 PM
Jan 2013
 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
10. Several busloads of Israel's chickens . . .
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 08:57 PM
Jan 2013

Several busloads of Israel's chickens have just pulled into that nation's driveway. They appear quite tired and weary. I suspect they may be home to roost.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
14. Israel will ignore it and nothing will happen.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:12 PM
Jan 2013

Bush & company are quite safe. Obama isn't about to hand over a former U.S. President to any foreign power.

madrchsod

(58,162 posts)
15. the sterilization was the final straw for me.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:16 PM
Jan 2013

i had little respect for the government of israel and it`s far right parties.

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
16. sterilization?
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:33 PM
Jan 2013

I thought depro provara was a form of birth control that lasts about three months.

Why are you exaggerating?

what's your agenda?



 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
18. Temporary sterilization . . .
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:44 PM
Jan 2013

Last edited Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Temporary sterilization for a period of three months is still sterilization, especially if it is done repeatedly, as was often the case here. In fact, some of the women were given those shots for years, and without any information on what they actually contained.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/state-admits-problematic-birth-control-shots-for-ethiopian-women-1.496664

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jan/30/forced-contraception-jewish-ethopian-women

http://www.aljazeera.com/video/middleeast/2013/01/2013130145259573156.html

Response to another_liberal (Reply #18)

 

Mosby

(19,491 posts)
20. It's birth control
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:59 PM
Jan 2013

and 30 Ethiopian women out of 100,000 are claiming this.

 

another_liberal

(8,821 posts)
21. That many are claiming it . . .
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:06 PM
Jan 2013

That many are claiming it, but how many received the shots? Most who did get them, I suspect, know better than to speak up; after all, they came to Israel to get out of Ethiopia permanently, not just for a short visit.

Orrex

(67,111 posts)
22. I wonder what would be the result if 30 Israeli women were temporarily sterilized
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:10 PM
Jan 2013

Hmm...

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
17. I'll believe it when I see it.
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:39 PM
Jan 2013

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
24. Locking
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:47 PM
Jan 2013

This thread would have a better home in the I/P group. Thanks.

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