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HarveyDarkey

(9,077 posts)
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:22 PM Feb 2013

Now this would be nice



New map: US High Speed Rail System. This map is inspired by ideas from various agencies and advocacy groups including Amtrak, The Transport Politic, Wikimedia Commons, Florida High Speed Rail, SkyscraperPage Forums, Southern High Speed Rail, Southeast High Speed Rail, Ohio Department of Transportation, California High Speed Rail Authority, Midwest High Speed Rail Association, US DOT Federal Railroad Administration, Texas High Speed Rail and Transportation Corp
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Now this would be nice (Original Post) HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 OP
this should have happend a longtime ago! april Feb 2013 #1
+1 sakabatou Feb 2013 #13
I like it too. CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2013 #2
Yup! madamesilverspurs Feb 2013 #54
Long overdo libtodeath Feb 2013 #3
I would spend my life Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #4
Me too. It's a shame. Hoyt Feb 2013 #6
Yep... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #14
Same here. I dislike flying, but rail would be lovely. You really get to see the country Flatulo Feb 2013 #29
Exactly... Sekhmets Daughter Feb 2013 #32
We'll have to wait for Rick Scott to stop being governor of Florida. Baitball Blogger Feb 2013 #5
And for Scott Walker to stop being governor of Wisconsin. Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2013 #17
If it involves a giveaway to any of his wealthy patrons, it'll happen in an eyeblink. n/t Mister Ed Feb 2013 #46
That graphic has me drooling... ljm2002 Feb 2013 #7
That would be so awesome. SunSeeker Feb 2013 #8
No Doubt. Thav Feb 2013 #9
We should have had that at a MINIMUM a couple decades ago. progressoid Feb 2013 #10
Sacramento to San Francisco or Reno in about a half hour? Semi_subversive Feb 2013 #11
I am all for this. Why don't we have this in the U.S.? RebelOne Feb 2013 #12
Money. And most people don't think we need it. davidn3600 Feb 2013 #21
Baggers and their conspiracy theories are part of the reason, no kidding. freshwest Feb 2013 #48
What is the 21 agenda? guardian Feb 2013 #53
Agenda 21 - go to Wikipedia. freshwest Feb 2013 #61
Thanks nt guardian Feb 2013 #62
Countries that don't spend most of their money on Wars get to have those Rail Systems. BlueJazz Feb 2013 #15
Even without hot wars, we're still footing the defense bill for the WWII allies. Flatulo Feb 2013 #30
Very true. BlueJazz Feb 2013 #31
If you think about how much of your household income goes toward... Blanks Feb 2013 #16
I love my car and I wouldn't give it up obxhead Feb 2013 #38
I'm not sure I'd give up my pickup either... Blanks Feb 2013 #47
It is so past time for this. CrispyQ Feb 2013 #18
It looks like Chicago to St. Louis is than 2 hours DaveJ Feb 2013 #19
When you're traveling at 220 mph, adieu Feb 2013 #26
That might be what prevents this from ever happening. DaveJ Feb 2013 #33
You rent a car when you get there just like we do nowadays when we travel by plane. JDPriestly Feb 2013 #43
this where amtrack should have started.... oldhippydude Feb 2013 #20
This is why we can't have nice things. Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #22
Amtrak service between Pittsburgh & Philadelphia is in peril............ mrmpa Feb 2013 #23
Good luck getting this past the airline lobby W T F Feb 2013 #24
Who is responsible for the Ottawa > Detriot segment? nt Earth_First Feb 2013 #25
We had it at one time bongbong Feb 2013 #27
Chicago to LA in a day would be cool. Spitfire of ATJ Feb 2013 #28
didn't they build a highspeed rail system in the book Atlas Shrugged Heather MC Feb 2013 #34
What are we waiting for? JDPriestly Feb 2013 #35
We Took the Train Cross-Country After Thanksgiving AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #40
We Need This Like Yesterday AndyTiedye Feb 2013 #36
Problem is Pat Riot Feb 2013 #37
Yeah, who wants that stuff? LisaLynne Feb 2013 #42
However, Godot51 Feb 2013 #39
Larger .pdf link obxhead Feb 2013 #41
The USA used to be.... ReRe Feb 2013 #44
Anyone who has travelled by rail in Europe and Japan in particular LibDemAlways Feb 2013 #45
Would we have to take off our shoes and be subjected to a full body scan? Martin Eden Feb 2013 #49
I would take slow speed rail anytime timdog44 Feb 2013 #50
+1. YES this would be great graham4anything Feb 2013 #51
Utopia liberal N proud Feb 2013 #52
My daughter just read that PA Gov. Corbett is proposing to eliminate the passanger route maddiemom Feb 2013 #55
What a dream. 60 minutes drive to Denver, change over at Cleveland........ wandy Feb 2013 #56
Too bad Ohio Gov. John Kasich refused to take part No Vested Interest Feb 2013 #57
The PDF at the link is dated 02-03-2013 HarveyDarkey Feb 2013 #58
No, I didn't. No Vested Interest Feb 2013 #60
It'll never happen. EC Feb 2013 #59

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
4. I would spend my life
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:31 PM
Feb 2013

touring the nation if we had this now. By the time they do, I won't be around.

 

Flatulo

(5,005 posts)
29. Same here. I dislike flying, but rail would be lovely. You really get to see the country
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:29 PM
Feb 2013

From ground level.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,607 posts)
17. And for Scott Walker to stop being governor of Wisconsin.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:23 PM
Feb 2013

He's stated firmly that high speed rail won't go through his state at all.

I would like to travel to Chicago in 2 1/2 hours, honestly. But that maggot needs to be voted out first.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
7. That graphic has me drooling...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:40 PM
Feb 2013

...I can only wish that I live long enough to see this or something like it.

SunSeeker

(58,274 posts)
8. That would be so awesome.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:46 PM
Feb 2013

I don't know which I'd take first, the "Red Line" to NY or the "Yellow Line" to New Orleans. We should already have this.

Thav

(950 posts)
9. No Doubt.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:52 PM
Feb 2013

I live about 2 hrs from Des Moines, Ia, and would LOVE to be able to drive down there and be able to go to chicago, or NYC, or LA. Sure it'd take some time to get there but it'd be WAY better than driving/flying. Plus, train rides are an awesome way to get down time.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
12. I am all for this. Why don't we have this in the U.S.?
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 05:59 PM
Feb 2013

I have been to the British Isles and their transportation system is fantastic. Why are we so behind the times?

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
21. Money. And most people don't think we need it.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:38 PM
Feb 2013

Nearly everyone has a car these days. And we have airplanes to move long distances.

A lot of people think a train would be a waste a money and no one would use it.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
48. Baggers and their conspiracy theories are part of the reason, no kidding.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:55 AM
Feb 2013

Tthe anti-Agenda 21, anti-sustainable agriculture, they're coming to get us gang. They've been howling about this plan for about a decade now.

IIRC, blue governors have embraced the rail while red governors turned the funding down because it's socialism...

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
16. If you think about how much of your household income goes toward...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:23 PM
Feb 2013

Just having your own car: car payment, auto insurance, fuel, maintenance. It would be an incredible savings to a lot of people if we could get anywhere on mass transit.

When I lived in Germany (30 years ago) we could get anywhere by bus, train or taxi. We had a little cart that we took our laundry to the laundromat, and we took it to the grocery store too.

My wife and I went to Chicago a couple years ago and we bought a pass that allowed us to travel by bus and subway... It was cool.

I look forward to the day when I don't have to own a vehicle at all. They tell us that Americans love their cars. Perhaps, but some days; I really really hate merging onto the interstate. I'm ready for mass transit to become a priority.

BTW, Little Rock isn't quite in the right place on the map.

 

obxhead

(8,434 posts)
38. I love my car and I wouldn't give it up
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:56 PM
Feb 2013

However I would gladly give up my 75 to 90 minute (1 way) commute with my car. It's heavy wear and tear and in the end makes an 8 hour day feel like an 11 hour day.

If I could sit and read for that time it would be wonderful beyond belief.

Building usable mass transit wouldn't get me to give up my car though. It would just extend my cars life to 20+ years and save me a ton of money nearly immediately. It would also have a positive environmental impact as well.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
47. I'm not sure I'd give up my pickup either...
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 10:27 PM
Feb 2013

Sometimes I have to haul stuff. However, we have 2 pickups and 2 cars between 3 drivers, and I'm like you; I've driven over a half hour to work and it would be nice to have productive use of that time.

It's the difference between having something because it is convenient and having something because it is a necessity.

CrispyQ

(40,969 posts)
18. It is so past time for this.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:32 PM
Feb 2013

We are living in the last century & the middle part of it, to boot!

kick

DaveJ

(5,023 posts)
19. It looks like Chicago to St. Louis is than 2 hours
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:37 PM
Feb 2013

That's pretty good time compared to driving which takes me 5 hours including breaks.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
26. When you're traveling at 220 mph,
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:05 PM
Feb 2013

it can get there much faster than by car.

I think for most people, the problem isn't the vast distances these trains go, but what to do when one gets there. In most cases, the local public transportation is terrible, so either one has to rent a car or do a lot of walking or take taxi. None of those are the best choices to travel when one reaches the destination.

This means, of course, that all municipalities along all these train lines should upgrade their public transportation infrastructure to handle people coming in without their own cars.

DaveJ

(5,023 posts)
33. That might be what prevents this from ever happening.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:44 PM
Feb 2013

Plus getting to and from the station at home is an issue. Parking your car costs money and people don't like leaving their car in strange places.

I like the idea, but it might not work. We'd probably be better off with a self driving highway system with electric cars.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
43. You rent a car when you get there just like we do nowadays when we travel by plane.
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:07 PM
Feb 2013

Trains would cut a lot of the pollution.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
20. this where amtrack should have started....
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:37 PM
Feb 2013

however I remember the Portland Rose (Portland via Cheyenne through southern Idaho).. as well as the link between Albuquerque and Topeka being retained

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
23. Amtrak service between Pittsburgh & Philadelphia is in peril............
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:43 PM
Feb 2013

Below is a Philadelphia report. The Pittsburgh papers ran an article about the peril of the route. The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette article stated that the average speed of the train between Pittsburgh & the State capital Harrisburg is 45mph. Between Harrisburg and Philadelphia the speed is 70mph.

What I would give for high speed travel.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/local/20130204_Pittsburgh-Harrisburg_Amtrak_route_imperiled.html

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
27. We had it at one time
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:05 PM
Feb 2013

Maybe not so fast, but you could ride from pretty much anywhere in the USA to anywhere else by rail. No car needed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interurban

These have been swept completely down the memory hole, but at one time everybody knew about them - and used them.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
34. didn't they build a highspeed rail system in the book Atlas Shrugged
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:48 PM
Feb 2013

this is great when do the wealthy asshole start to disappear??????

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
35. What are we waiting for?
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:54 PM
Feb 2013

Here in California, and would like to visit the Midwest much more often. I'm just one of many who hates sitting in a narrow little airplane seat and contending with all the fuss of airports.

AndyTiedye

(23,538 posts)
40. We Took the Train Cross-Country After Thanksgiving
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:57 PM
Feb 2013

If there's ever a time that one doesn't want to be flying, it's Thanksgiving weekend. We took the train. Providence RI to Emeryville, CA.


Godot51

(781 posts)
39. However,
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:56 PM
Feb 2013

all conservatives will say: it's too expensive; it'll take too long to build; it'll violate too many property owner's rights; besides, all the rich and VIPs can afford private jets and/or 1st class anyway; who'd need this?

I remember the Super Chief...

ReRe

(12,189 posts)
44. The USA used to be....
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:10 PM
Feb 2013

...the country that did things first. Now we're the country that does things last.

LibDemAlways

(15,139 posts)
45. Anyone who has travelled by rail in Europe and Japan in particular
Mon Feb 4, 2013, 08:23 PM
Feb 2013

knows how pathetic our train system is. There's no excuse other than that our politicians lack the political will and prefer to waste the national treasure on useless wars rather than invest in improving and modernizing our infrastructure. Long past time that we rearrange our priorities.

Martin Eden

(15,622 posts)
49. Would we have to take off our shoes and be subjected to a full body scan?
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 02:02 PM
Feb 2013

I'll take hi speed rail over air travel ANY day.

A week ago Sunday I spent 7 hours travelling and got nowhere. Freezing rain at O'Hare delayed then cancelled my flight on a cramped tin can I sat in for 2-1/2 hours. We had to book the next day for a Chicago to Nashville flight that spends 1 hour in the air.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
50. I would take slow speed rail anytime
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:05 PM
Feb 2013

It is the only way I can travel. Meet lots of interesting people and see this beautiful country of ours. And yes, even Nebraska is beautiful.

 

graham4anything

(11,464 posts)
51. +1. YES this would be great
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 03:09 PM
Feb 2013

I want to be able to travel from NYC to Nashville Tenn and from there go to Florida, then home.
or go to Dallas and Huston then out to California and so on.

bring back the rails!

maddiemom

(5,179 posts)
55. My daughter just read that PA Gov. Corbett is proposing to eliminate the passanger route
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:05 PM
Feb 2013

between Harrisburg and Philly. At Philadelphia, you can connect to the airport. She's taken this train and says it's convenient and enjoyable. Corbett claims that you can get there just as fast by driving. Well, Duh...typical Republican thinking.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
56. What a dream. 60 minutes drive to Denver, change over at Cleveland........
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:26 PM
Feb 2013

Quick hop to what looks like Syracuse. Fishing on the St. Lawrence and a few hour drive through beautiful country from home.
Travel time at 220 MPH. HA! You'd spend more time at airport terminals.
Makes you wonder why the republicans want this to be a third world country.

No Vested Interest

(5,297 posts)
57. Too bad Ohio Gov. John Kasich refused to take part
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:29 PM
Feb 2013

in this project, so, no, Ohio won't be a part of it.

Last I heard, Ohio's share of the high-speed-rail money went to California.

(BTW, when was this map prepared?)

No Vested Interest

(5,297 posts)
60. No, I didn't.
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 05:46 PM
Feb 2013

Can't help but wondering if those who prepared the map were aware of what had happened in Ohio and several other states.

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