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Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:44 PM

Our Congress is almost totally corrupt, representative Democracy is dead!

Most of the threads on DU are complaining of things like: the DOJ not going after Wall Street; entitlement reform; the deficit; the filibuster... I could go on and on with the list. We all know that the fix is in on many of the issues that the American people support. The wealthy special interests write the laws and their hired politicians get them Enacted. Both Democrats and Republicans should be up in arms (not assault weapons) over the fact that our democratic system is broken. Citizens United has put the corruption on steroids. The problem at the core, which if fixed, will help to solve most of the problems facing the United States. If we can force our politicians to pass complete/full campaign finance reform, we can get our representative democracy back. If our politicians were freed from having to raise money full time, they might be able to work on more than one issue at a time. They could not be threatened with a primary opponent that had more money than God if they did not vote a certain way. They would not have to "owe" big donors at the expense of the rest of us. It would come down to whether his/her constituents thought that he/she were representing their interests, as it should be. I do understand that this will not be easy. If you thought that OWS encountered resistance, then you haven't seen anything yet! This would be a fight for control of the United States, they have it, and we want it back. It will take much larger crowds of protesters, and need to be sustained for a very long time. The movement will need leaders who will not cave to half measures. It needs to eliminate any money, perks, gifts etc. for elections and votes on legislation. It needs to eliminate the revolving door of Wall Street crooks and corporate whores who come in and carve out exceptions for themselves and then return to the private sector. If done right, we can expect that when the majority of the American public want something, like Medicare for all, we get it! If the majority of Americans want a ban on assault weapons, we get a ban on assault weapons. In order to get a large number of citizens behind this effort, we need to get the word out. I am asking for DU'ers to get behind this and help in whatever way you can. Most can talk and write about it, but some of you have media contacts and relationships with politicians that can help in tremendous ways. I know from my years spent reading threads here that we have some very creative members here, and folks much smarter than me. I look forward to your responses and your help, thanks!

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Reply Our Congress is almost totally corrupt, representative Democracy is dead! (Original post)
Dustlawyer Feb 2013 OP
Skidmore Feb 2013 #1
Egalitarian Thug Feb 2013 #2
Chathamization Feb 2013 #3

Response to Dustlawyer (Original post)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 06:49 PM

1. The people are not pure and congress is representative of the people.

We live in a culture that is willing to wink at much and let blatant abuses of all sorts slide without complaint. I'll be more inclined to give more credence to the "its the leaders" argument when the people have truly stood up and demanded the best representation of them possible or have truly and wholeheartedly tried to oust corrupt officials. Sure, some of this has begun but "the people" can be found grousing about whether singers lipsync or other such folderal.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 07:03 PM

2. You mean like bailing out the banksters? The People spoke and spoke loudly.


The People crashed the mail servers trying to stop it and regardless of party, it was 60+% against. Congress and the shrub simply ignored them, and President Obama compounded it and is letting the perpetrators walk away with a bonus to boot.

Sure, The American People are not the brightest nor best informed population on earth, and most of them don't care about much of anything that is done in their names, but they do care about some things and they do speak up on those rare occasions. But this system of institutional bribery ensures that they when they cannot be made to agree to their with their own hardship, they are simply ignored with impunity.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 4, 2013, 11:21 PM

3. Electoral power is what's important

Lots of people being outraged doesn't mean a whole lot of it doesn't change how people votes. Politicians do what gets them elected; they're going to try to maximize the votes they get for each decision. If people complain but don't do anything politically about it, they have no reason to change.

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