When will the "(Global) War on Terror"/"Overseas Contingency Operations" be over?

[Solly Mack]

Will a "state of emergency" continue to exist that will require certain actions by the government?

As long as the AUMF is cited as the reason behind the authority of a certain action or actions, it can be said that a state of emergency exist. The AUMF has been cited as the authority behind warrantless wiretapping/electronic surveillance, detentions/indefinite detentions, "enhanced interrogation techniques" (torture), and drones/targeted killings.

There was a time when a state of emergency passed and all the powers that went with it ended.

Is that time over?

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	Never. A state of emergency will continue to exist that requires certain actions by the govt.
	5 (100%)
	I'm sure there's a timeline that will end the present state of emergency that requires certain actions by the govt.
	0 (0%)
	1 DU member did not wish to select any of the options provided.
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[think]

1. Call me a pessimist in this regard...

[Comrade Grumpy]

2. Never. We've got us a blank check for the Forever War.

After we've killed the last terrorist, his cousin will get pissed off, so we'll have to kill him, too. Ad infinitum.

[libtodeath]

3. This

[Democracyinkind]

5. I wanted to include "Forever War" in my reply. You beat me to it. Congrats!

[leftstreet]

10. +1

[Solly Mack]

16. and some people have become inured...

some never cared...and some don't see a reason to care.

It's the new norm, sadly.

There are children entering their teens who have always lived under this particular state of emergency. Who will never know anything different.

[Democracyinkind]

4. I don't know. Maybe we'll go on Egypt style. The only thing that is sure...

... is that while the state of emergency may go extinct one day, the powers that the gov declared itself to have won't, emergency or not.

[Solly Mack]

8. I agree with Frederick Douglass on the issue power.

“Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress.”

[Democracyinkind]

9. Very apt quote. Thank you.

[nadinbrzezinski]

6. 1984 comes to mind.

Oh it will end, when the empire collapses.

[Solly Mack]

17. It does. In more ways than one.

[nadinbrzezinski]

20. Look on the bright side, soon the war with Eurasia will be over

As we turn our sights on East Asia, the hated and dreaded enemy.

[Solly Mack]

21. Yeah, except that doesn't work on me.

But I take your point.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Me neither

American Exceptionalism is a powerful drug...this is the kind of precedent that will ead to gnashing of teeth and rending of garments. Mind you, I staid away from the better understood mine field.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022324097

All ail big brother!

[sakabatou]

23. Not to mention a two-minute hate.

[kudzu22]

7. It's amazing how many temporary solutions become permanent problems

Reason #452 why legislation should never be passed by an emotional congress.

[Solly Mack]

14. Like the Patriot Act.

Though, honestly, I think they were more than happy to pass that bit of overreaching BS.

[Blue_Tires]

11. Never, as long as there are quarterly profits to be made

[Octafish]

12. Until the Money Runs Out.

As they print the stuff, I voted "Never."



Thank you for an outstanding poll and OP, Solly Mack. Infinite thanks.

[Solly Mack]

13. I'm getting to the point that if my government wants endless war then I want

Universal health care, outstanding roads and infrastructure, mass transit, real/actual educational opportunities for any and all, a living wage, better and affordable housing, labor laws & unions that protect the worker and that can't be dismantled by states with deranged governors...and so many other things.


Alas...

[Initech]

15. As long as there's money to be made off fighting an invisible enemy - never!

Who cares about peace when there's profit to be had?

[datasuspect]

18. when OBL has the last laugh

which i think was his intention all along.

the terrorists already won this war.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

19. Maybe when we're too broke to fund it. Or when the politicans can't drain it for votes.

My guess is the former. Admitting that we lost another war is too hard for politicians even when it's as obvious as this loss is.

[tledford]

24. I selected neither.

It will end when we, the voters, take our government back from the corporations and plutocrats and insist that it be ended.

[Solly Mack]

25. Thank you for telling me why!

[TheKentuckian]

26. Best I can tell, when TeaPubliKlans want it over or when the nation collapses.

Democrats are to afraid and perhaps are even actually unwilling to end the fiasco due to fear of being called weak or taking the blame for any attack so the situation must continue until a puke finds a burning conscience and is willing to take the heat.

The other option other than collapse of the present government is to make our guys do it above any and all other considerations.

[Egalitarian Thug]

27. When there's nothing left to steal here? n/t

[Solly Mack]

28. I need more votes.

Surely people have an opinion on how long this will all last. Surely.