Medieval Tea Party vs. Medieval Liberals

[JaneyVee]

[NutmegYankee]

1. Actually that would be ancient.

The medieval age began when the Rome collapsed.

[Deep13]

3. In the West.

The Roman state persisted in the East until the end of the Middle Ages.

[NutmegYankee]

4. I know. Constantinople 1453

[Deep13]

7. I was just reading about that last week.

Apparently, at that time it was just a husk of a city with maybe 30k villagers within the wall. Once the Ottomans took over, the city had a kind of rebirth. The Turks restored much of the infrastructure--fixing the damage caused by the 4th Crusade, among other things, and after about a century, the population was around 400k.

[NutmegYankee]

8. A lot of that downsizing was from the Ottomans.

They conquered the surrounding provinces first then moved onto the weakened capital. The "empire" had been starved of money and trade for many years.

[Deep13]

9. Yup, cities can't be isolated. nt

[Deep13]

2. ancient, not medieval

The Middle Ages did not really begin until the collapse of the Imperial slave state in Western Europe in the sixth century or so.

[Demo_Chris]

5. Hillarious!

[Initech]

6. If the Tea Party had been around during the revolution we'd still be under British rule.