The problem with Dorner's allegation...

[dkf]

In internal police papers, Evans said Dorner repeatedly asked why he was being put back on patrol without reintegration training. On one occasion, he began weeping in the patrol car and demanded to be taken back to the police academy to be retrained, according to a summary of an interview with Evans contained in 2009 court documents.

Evans warned Dorner that she would give him an unsatisfactory rating and request that he be removed from the field unless he improved. A day after she followed up on her threat with a poor review, Dorner reported to internal affairs that Evans had kicked a severely mentally ill man in the chest and left cheek during an arrest.

A police review panel ultimately found the allegation untrue and Dorner was fired for making a false statement.


Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/08/3224583_p2/court-file-la-ex-cop-was-disturbed.html#storylink=cpy

[randome]

1. And the day he reported was 2 weeks after the incident.

Interesting timeline.

[dkf]

3. July 28 incident vs Aug 10 report.

When Dorner returned from active duty to the LAPD in July 2007, Dorner was still on probation and assigned to the San Pedro division with field training officer Sgt. Teresa Evans. The key incident that would lead to his firing occurred July 28, 2007, and is described in testimony in Dorner's lawsuit against the LAPD.


On Aug. 9, Evans gave Dorner an evaluation that said he needed to improve in the areas of officer safety, common sense and good judgment. The next day, Dorner reported Evans' alleged kicking of Gettler to an LAPD captain. According to the captain's court testimony, Dorner "expressed remorse that he failed to report what he believed to be misconduct (unnecessary kicks applied to an arrestee) that he witnessed two weeks prior."

http://www.scpr.org/news/2013/02/08/35876/lapd-manhunt-racism-fuels-christopher-dorner-ex-la/

Irony is he may be telling the truth and thought the report would get him out of a sticky situation of having a bad rating. But then his account was suspect because it was self serving.

[libertypirate]

4. You are assuming Dorner has a history of lying and the LAPD telling the truth. /nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

2. Doesn't matter. Anyone who makes a claim of impropriety against LAPD is A.O.K.

It's not like we don't know there are problems within the department. Fuck, for that matter, there are racism problems with tens of thousands of police departments.

Murderin' Christopher though seems to have somehow had his actions of the last few days turned into mere speed bumps.

"We hate the LAPD!" seems to be the metaphorical cry of any credible progressive this Friday night and implied support for Murderin' Chris' actions, be it ever so subtle, is the rule of the day.

How fucking strange is it that there are those who actively seek a situation where the LAPD and other departments are the only people allowed to possess firearms.

Curiouser and curiouser...

[Fire Walk With Me]

6. 1. Fuck LAPD. 2. Disarm them and all sheriffs and "police". 3. 'nuff said.

[Fire Walk With Me]

5. It is said the DVDs Dorner sent out to journalists contain evidence which may support the claims in

his manifesto. We'll have to see what matches up or not, and to what proportion. There really and truly is deep trouble inside of LAPD. Here's hoping that this will actually address it, and not turn out to be the emotions of a troubled person.

This was reported yesterday, if any wish further insight into LA's authority issues:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/08/seven-members-of-la-sheriff-clique-fired_n_2645288.html?utm_hp_ref=latino-voices

Seven members of a L.A. sheriff’s deputies secret clique that prides itself on celebrating shootings of mostly Latino and black gang bangers have been notified they are about to be fired, according to officials.

The secret group known as the Jump Out Boys prides itself on aggressive policing, much of it in Latino communities, and brands its members with matching tattoos of a red-eyed oversized skull bearing the clique acronym and a bony hand holding a revolver.

Smoke is tattooed over the gun’s barrel for members who have been involved in at least one shooting.

Those seven officers aren’t being fired for any known criminal behavior but apparently for tarnishing the department’s reputation and unethical conduct at a time when it is struggling through a federal investigation.

(More at the link, more in this city.)

[The Magistrate]

7. Part Of The Problem Here, Ma'am

Is that police department statements a charge of brutal behavior by an officer is false have very little credibility. Stating a police officer was cleared by a police review panel is a damned long way from establishing it as fact that that police officer did not engage in brutal conduct. I have no idea whether Dorner is telling the truth or not, but a statement from the police department that a charge of brutality he laid against an officer is false certainly does not prove he is lying.

[dkf]

9. I agree which is why the Double Tree employees have the greatest credibility to me.

Testimony of Christopher Adrid
Adrid was working as a bellman at the DoubleTree Hotel on the date of the incident. He saw Gettler on a bench in the lobby, talking to himself, so he asked Gettler if he was a hotel guest. When Gettler said he was not staying at the hotel, Adrid asked him to sit on a bench outside the hotel.
When appellant and Sergeant Evans arrived, Adrid saw them ask Gettler to take his hands out of his pockets and approach them. Gettler stood up and walked toward the officers, but when he tried to run away, appellant tackled him. Adrid testified that he saw Gettler and appellant fall into the bushes, which were about four feet high, although in an earlier interview, he had said he did not see appellant tackle Gettler. Adrid testified that Sergeant Evans was telling Gettler to put his hands behind his back or else she would use the taser. Gettler did not comply, so Sergeant Evans shot him with the taser, and then he complied and was handcuffed. Sergeant Evans stepped into the planter and helped appellant and Gettler get up. Adrid did not see Sergeant Evans crouch in the bushes or kick Gettler. He said that Sergeant Evans had one foot in the planter and one on the sidewalk and never had both feet in the planter. Adrid saw the cut on Gettler’s nose but did not see any other injuries.


Testimony of Ashlye Perez
Ashlye Perez was working at the DoubleTree as a bellhop on July 28, 2007. She was in the lobby of the hotel when she saw appellant and Sergeant Evans arrive at the hotel. The hotel doors were open, so she heard the officers ask Gettler to stand and ask if he was a guest at the hotel. After Perez went outside to try to usher hotel guests inside, she heard Gettler start yelling and saw the officers grab him to stop him from running away. She did not remember exactly what happened, but she saw Sergeant Evans use the taser, and she saw Gettler fall headfirst into the bushes. She noticed that some branches were broken when Gettler hit the bushes. Perez did not see Sergeant Evans go into the bushes or kick Gettler. Perez went back into the hotel, so she did not see the officers handcuff Gettler, but she saw Gettler struggling while the officers tried to get him out of the bushes. She noticed that Gettler had a cut on his face, which she thought was from hitting his face on the bushes.

Moreover this was appealed in the regular court:

Court of Appeals of California, Second District, Division Four.

http://tvfishbowl.com/christopher-dorner-vs-lapd-legal-transcripts/

[Fire Walk With Me]

8. Suspected LAPD Killer Found $8,000 And Returned It To An Oklahoma Church In 2002

http://www.buzzfeed.com/ellievhall/lapd-killer-found-8000-and-returned-it-to-an-oklahoma-church

An Enid church is a little richer today thanks to the integrity of Lt. Andrew Baugher, a Marine student at Vance, and Ensign Chris Dorner, a Navy student pilot.

The two were driving into Enid Sunday afternoon when they spotted a bank bag in the middle of the road.

After turning around, they picked up the bag and found it contained nearly $8,000. They promptly took the bag to the Enid Police Department

The money belongs to Enid Korean Church of Grace, 724 W. Randolph, and the bag contained $7,792 in cash and checks.

(More at the link. I don't know if he committed those killings [LAPD LIE] but if he did, something happened to him over the years. I need more information on this man.)